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Calling all Nerds!! Need Help getting started installing Linux on a laptop
04/27/2006 | Me

Posted on 04/27/2006 2:23:22 PM PDT by freedumb2003

OK, I am a very technical person. I have installed Operating Systems but they were Minaframes (OS/390 and UNIX).

I have a old laptop (Compaq Armada 500) that I want to install Linux on (upon which I wish to install Linux?). But I have been out of the OS biz for a while, so can someone get me started?

I am concerned about things like coordinating the BIOS with the OS, getting the proper drivers (especially wifi), etc. etc. etc.

Any first steps would be greatly appreciated.


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KEYWORDS: help; install; installlinux; laptop; linux; techsupportping
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Thanks in advance
1 posted on 04/27/2006 2:23:25 PM PDT by freedumb2003
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To: freedumb2003

Greetings, welcome to a wonderful new world.

First, go to Ubuntu.com - this is the best Linux variant for laptops, so far as I've experienced.

Try out the Live CD first, so you can see how it works before installing it.

Come back and tell me the results.

Regards, Ivan


2 posted on 04/27/2006 2:25:11 PM PDT by MadIvan (I aim to misbehave.)
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To: freedumb2003
I recommend a dual boot Windows XP/Linux so that you have the best of both worlds. SUSE Linux 10.0 works very well and has all of the bells and whistles you could ever want including tons of apps that you can install from the DVD. I got my DVD for free with a copy of Linux Format magazine.

I had Mandriva Linux before, but wasn't impressed. This weekend, I'm going to install Slax to see how that works out. Go here for a quick tutorial on how to install Slax to your HD without messing up Windows XP. Slax is available here.

If you want to try SUSE, go here to download it and get installation instructions, etc.

3 posted on 04/27/2006 2:29:59 PM PDT by Spiff ("They start yelling, 'Murderer!' 'Traitor!' They call me by name." - Gael Murphy, Code Pink leader)
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To: MadIvan
First, go to Ubuntu.com - this is the best Linux variant for laptops, so far as I've experienced. Try out the Live CD first, so you can see how it works before installing it.

Good recommendation. The Live CD trial will allow the user to make sure that video, wifi, sound, ethernet drivers and such work on the laptop and that the particular distro has everything else he needs.

Go to DistroWatch.com to read about and download various Live CD distros to try out.

4 posted on 04/27/2006 2:32:02 PM PDT by Spiff ("They start yelling, 'Murderer!' 'Traitor!' They call me by name." - Gael Murphy, Code Pink leader)
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To: Spiff

He may want to try the new Xubuntu variant, which is supposed to be very light. With an old laptop, that may be important.

Regards, Ivan


5 posted on 04/27/2006 2:33:10 PM PDT by MadIvan (I aim to misbehave.)
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To: freedumb2003

You're going to need to do some googling.

I'm running Debian Sarge on an old Dell laptop, with a bad CD-ROM drive. It took some doin'. ;-)

I had to use bootp for the boot device, so I had to set that up on another machine.


6 posted on 04/27/2006 2:43:04 PM PDT by B Knotts
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To: B Knotts

I,M USING LINSPIRE.

http://www.freespire.org/


7 posted on 04/27/2006 2:54:16 PM PDT by BlueMoose
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To: Spiff; MadIvan; B Knotts

Thanks guys!

I don't think I cam do the dual boot -- the machine is too old for XP (I ran that MS analysis program and it said nogood).

So this will be an adventure. Fortunately I have 2 actively working computers so this isn't a big risk.

I can always depend on my FReeper FRiends for good advice. You guys rock!

I'll ping everyone back when I get the whole thing running!


8 posted on 04/27/2006 2:59:52 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Don't call them "Illegal Aliens." Call them what they are: CRIMINAL INVADERS!)
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To: BlueMoose

Thanks Moose!


9 posted on 04/27/2006 3:00:32 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Don't call them "Illegal Aliens." Call them what they are: CRIMINAL INVADERS!)
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To: freedumb2003
Just something you can achieve with Linux - this is my laptop screenshot, using an old HP laptop and Ubuntu:

With the latest Firefox, Mozilla and Opera (for variety) it runs very well.

Regards, Ivan

10 posted on 04/27/2006 3:04:29 PM PDT by MadIvan (I aim to misbehave.)
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To: freedumb2003

11 posted on 04/27/2006 3:05:47 PM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Hosea 6:6 For I desire mercy, not sacrifice, and acknowledgment of God rather than burnt offerings)
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To: MadIvan
Older hardware should be the easier case for Linux.

Where one gets into troubles with drivers and such is with the latest hardware. Vendors tend to make sure Windows runs on their hardware and then ship it.

For more complex hardware, it can take a little while for the hardware to be reversed engineered so we can get a Linux driver.

So I'd just get an Ubuntu or SuSE CD and if you don't have anything on the laptop you care about, just start the installation.

If you laptop is so old it cannot boot off the CD, and has no BIOS option to ask to boot off the CD, then you will have to figure out the steps needed to make a boot floppy for your installation. This isn't too bad, once you find the instructions for it, given that you have other PC's that currently work.

Once you get far enough to boot off the SuSE or Ubuntu installation CD, you should be on easy street.

12 posted on 04/27/2006 3:06:23 PM PDT by ThePythonicCow (We are but Seekers of Truth, not the Source.)
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There are a couple of issues with Breezy Badger, the present release of Ubuntu, but they're solveable.

Wireless cards tend to be the biggest issue, but there is a way around that too:

http://www.linuxant.com/

Using a Linksys PCMCIA card, it works just fine.

Regards, Ivan


13 posted on 04/27/2006 3:08:14 PM PDT by MadIvan (I aim to misbehave.)
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To: N3WBI3; ShadowAce; Ernest_at_the_Beach

OSS Ping


14 posted on 04/27/2006 3:14:01 PM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: freedumb2003
Get simply mepis 3.4-3 easiest way to go IMO.

scroll to the bottom for links

15 posted on 04/27/2006 3:23:11 PM PDT by Echo Talon
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To: N3WBI3; ShadowAce; Swordmaker; rzeznikj at stout; Bloody Sam Roberts; ThePythonicCow; Alia; ...

TechSupport PING

If you are interested in the TechSupport ping list please mail me

16 posted on 04/27/2006 3:53:03 PM PDT by N3WBI3 ("I can kill you with my brain" - River Tam)
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To: freedumb2003
Whatever distro you decide try a live CD first Here is a long list You should be able to find a distro that has all the drivers (including wifi) that you need. When that is done (You select a distro) we can help you with the install (dont worry most linux installs are cake now)
17 posted on 04/27/2006 3:57:08 PM PDT by N3WBI3 ("I can kill you with my brain" - River Tam)
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To: freedumb2003

Free,

Dont worry about dual booting if you really want to use windows you can downlad the vmware player and Ill talk you thorough building a windows virtual machene, who needs to mess around with dual booting anymore..


18 posted on 04/27/2006 3:59:02 PM PDT by N3WBI3 ("I can kill you with my brain" - River Tam)
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To: freedumb2003

Free,

Let us know when you need more help on this and I will bump the TechSupport list again


19 posted on 04/27/2006 4:05:44 PM PDT by N3WBI3 ("I can kill you with my brain" - River Tam)
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To: N3WBI3

Thanks N3WB!

I'll be diggin into it and starting tomorrow.

Like I said, My other PCs are all set up -- I can burn my own CDs or DVDs, etc. This is some extra hardware I have lying around.

This weekend it occurred to me to install linux -- I need to stay up on my shell scripting anyway.

I'll ping you'all back.

Man, FR is the greatest!


20 posted on 04/27/2006 4:09:59 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Don't call them "Illegal Aliens." Call them what they are: CRIMINAL INVADERS!)
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