Posted on 04/23/2006 9:46:36 AM PDT by VRWCer
DURHAM, N.C., April 22 The Duke University lacrosse team's troubles began with a phone call.
A team captain using an assumed name called an escort service to hire two exotic dancers for a party on March 13. Last week, two Duke players were indicted (snip)
To all but some of the people at the party, the truth of what happened that night to one of the dancers, who accused three white players of raping her in a bathroom, is a mystery.
Mr. Nifong says a sexual assault occurred, based on hospital records and the account of the accuser, who is black. A second dancer and a neighbor corroborated some of the accuser's details.
Defense lawyers say the accuser was drunk when she arrived at the party, and fabricated the assault. Taxi and bank receipts and dormitory access records prove that Mr. Seligmann could not have raped the woman, his lawyer says. (snip)
About 8:30 p.m., a 27-year-old single mother of two answered her phone. That woman, a Durham native, was enrolled at North Carolina Central, a historically black college on the south side of town. Its patchy grass and simple brick buildings are a world away from Duke.
When she arrived about 11:30 p.m., she was wearing a negligee and shiny white high heels,... (snip)
The accuser said later that both women re-entered the house after one player apologized for the behavior during their dance. She said two men then pulled her into a bathroom, locked the door and said, "Sweetheart, you can't leave."
It was then, she told the police, that Mr. Seligmann forced her to perform oral sex, and Mr. Finnerty raped and sodomized her and the third suspect strangled her, according to a transcript of a photo identification session with police on April 4. (snip)
(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...
None.
I bet the accused turned tricks at some point in her stripping carrer. I wonder when this will come out?
I'm reminded of a group of college feminists who took a bunch of random photos of male students and made a big poster saying "These men may be rapists".
They would certainly have been very upset had their photos been circulated with the headline "These women may falsely accuse you of rape and attempt to ruin your life for any reason or no reason at all"
"Oh... frat boys don't have to have trust funds to be sleazes (but it sure does help). However, I must admit that I am biased because I did go to this place called college and I was unfortunately privvy to some of the nasty behavior of this type of frat guy.."
Since you're obviously into profiling, I assume you'll have no problem with me stereotyping black skanky hos as being less than credible. Right?
Big watch and flannel shirt?
"Big watch and flannel shirt?"
Excellent.
No... but I know the Hoyt-type, and I am very adament about making sure that when such jerks engage in behavior, they don't get away with it because of my encounters with spoiled entitled frat boys in high school and college.
And I don't hate college people in general since about two years ago I was one and it was the best time of my life. I think that 70-75% of college kids are fairly good seeds, another 15% do some stupid things, and another 10% are little entitled snots.
And when it is proven she's lying, will you care that their lives are destroyed?
Will you come back and explain to us exactly how this woman who didn't want to be arrested for public drunkenness for fear of losing her children advanced the cause of women who really ARE raped?
And these two just happened to be the richest guys on the team.
Lucky her, huh?
Please explain how they look like sleezy frat boys?
Try doing some research, before you spout your opinion. You obviously have NO clue.
If Durham, NC is anything like other cities most of the white folks can't even vote 'cause they've moved to the burbs and the minorities have taken over. Saying all that, the white DA is now playing to the minority crowd. Shame on him.
To bad Duke University can't move to the burbs.
The fact is, you don't know anything about either one of them.
And what would you be doing hanging out in a bar waiting to be picked up?
My daughter is a college freshman. My policy to her was that she's years away from being of legal drinking age, and so I do not want her anywhere where alcohol is served. And that if I find out she's been to one she's on curfew from that point on
If a girl gets drunk at a party and then gets behind the wheel of a car, she is still fully liable for the consequences. In fact, she is MORE liable by virtue of the fact that she allowed herself to become impaired
If a guy and a woman get equally drunk at a party, and decide that having sex is a good idea, the woman is completely absolved from having given consent because she was drunk, yet the guy's being equally drunk in no way reduces his liability for his actions. So he goes to jail for being too drunk to be able to decide whether she was too drunk to be able to give informed consent
I have a simpler policy: don't get drunk, and don't get stoned. And don't hang out with people who do
I don't know who came up with that phrase but it is sage advice and it's kept me out of serious trouble for 40 years. Whenever I am at a party or social gathering, 10:30 to 11PM is the "sweet spot" for hitting the road. By then, the party has pretty much peaked and it is downhill from that point as the drunks start getting obnoxious and out of hand.
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.