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Call to Escort Service Began a Night of Trouble at Duke
New York Times ^ | April 22, 2006 | DUFF WILSON and JULIET MACUR

Posted on 04/23/2006 9:46:36 AM PDT by VRWCer

DURHAM, N.C., April 22 — The Duke University lacrosse team's troubles began with a phone call.

A team captain using an assumed name called an escort service to hire two exotic dancers for a party on March 13. Last week, two Duke players were indicted (snip)

To all but some of the people at the party, the truth of what happened that night to one of the dancers, who accused three white players of raping her in a bathroom, is a mystery.

Mr. Nifong says a sexual assault occurred, based on hospital records and the account of the accuser, who is black. A second dancer and a neighbor corroborated some of the accuser's details.

Defense lawyers say the accuser was drunk when she arrived at the party, and fabricated the assault. Taxi and bank receipts and dormitory access records prove that Mr. Seligmann could not have raped the woman, his lawyer says. (snip)

About 8:30 p.m., a 27-year-old single mother of two answered her phone. That woman, a Durham native, was enrolled at North Carolina Central, a historically black college on the south side of town. Its patchy grass and simple brick buildings are a world away from Duke.

When she arrived about 11:30 p.m., she was wearing a negligee and shiny white high heels,... (snip)

The accuser said later that both women re-entered the house after one player apologized for the behavior during their dance. She said two men then pulled her into a bathroom, locked the door and said, "Sweetheart, you can't leave."

It was then, she told the police, that Mr. Seligmann forced her to perform oral sex, and Mr. Finnerty raped and sodomized her and the third suspect strangled her, according to a transcript of a photo identification session with police on April 4. (snip)

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Local News
KEYWORDS: duke; dukelax; escortservice; lacrosse; stripper
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Sorry if this has been posted, I searched and did not find it. This article appears to be a typical NY Slimes attempt to give this rapidly unraveling case some sort of credibility, but I thought it was interesting fodder for discussion!
1 posted on 04/23/2006 9:46:39 AM PDT by VRWCer
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4 people in one bathroom, sex in every way possible and not one drop of DNA on her body. OK


2 posted on 04/23/2006 9:53:02 AM PDT by SouthernFreebird
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They *obviously* did it, they're white!!!!


4 posted on 04/23/2006 9:54:22 AM PDT by Tzimisce (How Would Mohammed Vote? Hillary for President! www.dndorks.com)
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"They said the women went in the bathroom for 10 to 20 minutes, then left the house."

By this version, if they were in the bathroom for either 10 or 20 minutes, and then went outside, Seligmann is in the clear. He left in a cab at 12:19 after walking a couple of blocks to where he was picked up. 20 minutes would put this at 12:24 and Seligmann was gone for 5 minutes by then. 10 minutes would put it at 10:14, but again, they went outside, and if there were still a few minutes left before they went back inside, Seligmann still could not have had time to participate in an attack.

5 posted on 04/23/2006 10:00:29 AM PDT by Enterprise (The MSM - Propaganda wing and news censorship division of the Democrat Party.)
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To: SouthernFreebird

4 people in one bathroom, sex in every way possible and not one drop of DNA on her body. OK



Yeah, I am breathlessly waiting for this to be explained.


6 posted on 04/23/2006 10:02:13 AM PDT by LoudRepublicangirl (loudrepublicangirl)
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Nifong's "independent" DNA analysis will probably do it, just the way "memory refreshment therapy" has worked for individuals like Janet Reno to get terrified three year olds to testify to nonexistent bizarre sexual perversions by targeted day care workers.


7 posted on 04/23/2006 10:07:01 AM PDT by libstripper
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Maybe that is because their were really only "Minute Men". Remember there were just these three that had sex with her.


8 posted on 04/23/2006 10:15:45 AM PDT by NewEnglander
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From what I have read, the accuser picked three men out of a lineup comprised of photos of all 45 fraternity guys. There were no "null" pictures. This is a multiple choice test with no wrong answers. Anybody she chose (at random) would qualify.


9 posted on 04/23/2006 10:17:28 AM PDT by Mongeaux (''I would sooner be governed by the first 2,000 names in the Boston phone directory," W.F. Buckley)
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That woman, a Durham native ....

Uh-oh. Someone at the Times is for the chop.

10 posted on 04/23/2006 10:17:28 AM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Bend over and think of England.)
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Boys will be boys. It happens everyday and this is not the first nor will it be the last. I do not support their actions but I know it happens. What can we do about it. Abolish frat houses? Do away with escort services? Ban parties on, off, or near college towns? I think not. It starts in the home to respect everyone and be mature. I pray my son learns from this and does not act this way once he is in college. I am doing my best....
11 posted on 04/23/2006 10:18:56 AM PDT by XtreMarine
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This is a multiple choice test with no wrong answers.

Wow, what a great idea. Wait til the NEA hears about this. This type of testing could save out public schools.

12 posted on 04/23/2006 10:30:37 AM PDT by Always Right
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Hey Mongeaux,
All Honkies look a like or one size fits all.

The Layman On The Street,
NSNR


13 posted on 04/23/2006 10:35:06 AM PDT by No Surrender No Retreat (Xin Loi My Boy!!!!)
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Posters have trashed how things are done in Aruba (me included) and demanded that the highest government officials step into the Natalee investigation. Yet we have Nifong (with his lineup along with his other stupid and unethical conduct turning the investigation into a mess) and nobody apparently is reining him in.
14 posted on 04/23/2006 10:39:27 AM PDT by Jane Austen
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"4 people in one bathroom, sex in every way possible and not one drop of DNA on her body. OK"


DNA, SchmeeNA. You're talking hard scientific evidence....actually the LACK of it.

This is all about jury selection. With the appropriate, chip-on-its-shoulder, race and class-minded jury, the prosecutor only needs to come up with an appropriate pre-school level nursery rhyme (ala "it does not fit, so you must acquit") and the "rich" white boys are as good as behind bars.


15 posted on 04/23/2006 10:40:26 AM PDT by EyeGuy
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They didn't need the strippers period... By hiring the strippers, they were asking for trouble.

As for the allegations, while there was no DNA, I'm not so sure that something didn't happen. The guys in question look like just the type of sleazy frat boys with huge trust funds that might try to sexually assault someone. Unfortunately, date rape and sexual assaults on college campuses these days. When I was in college, I'd never accept a drink from a stranger/ casual acquaintance at a party or a bar and I always carried a personal alarm, mace, and a cell phone whenever I went out.
16 posted on 04/23/2006 10:47:36 AM PDT by Accygirl
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To: VRWCer
The Slime seems to focused on this case.

I can't understand why. /sarc

17 posted on 04/23/2006 10:48:21 AM PDT by mcenedo (lying liberal media - our most dangerous and powerful enemy)
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[The guys in question look like just the type of sleazy frat boys with huge trust funds that might try to sexually assault someone.]



You'd make a great jurist. You can tell that someone is a violent criminal with just one glance.


18 posted on 04/23/2006 10:55:55 AM PDT by spinestein (The mainstream news media are to journalism what fast food chains are to fine dining.)
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To: NewEnglander
Maybe that is because their were really only "Minute Men". Remember there were just these three that had sex with her.



But there are other forms of DNA besides the obvious kind most people are thinking of-hair, saliva, etc. Was none of that found on her after a rape kit was done at the hospital?
19 posted on 04/23/2006 11:16:40 AM PDT by LoudRepublicangirl (loudrepublicangirl)
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Two questions come to mind. 1. Can a medical exam show the difference between rape and rough consensual sex?
2. Just how big is this bathroom?


20 posted on 04/23/2006 11:21:06 AM PDT by lastchance (Hug your babies.)
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