Posted on 04/23/2006 9:46:36 AM PDT by VRWCer
DURHAM, N.C., April 22 The Duke University lacrosse team's troubles began with a phone call.
A team captain using an assumed name called an escort service to hire two exotic dancers for a party on March 13. Last week, two Duke players were indicted (snip)
To all but some of the people at the party, the truth of what happened that night to one of the dancers, who accused three white players of raping her in a bathroom, is a mystery.
Mr. Nifong says a sexual assault occurred, based on hospital records and the account of the accuser, who is black. A second dancer and a neighbor corroborated some of the accuser's details.
Defense lawyers say the accuser was drunk when she arrived at the party, and fabricated the assault. Taxi and bank receipts and dormitory access records prove that Mr. Seligmann could not have raped the woman, his lawyer says. (snip)
About 8:30 p.m., a 27-year-old single mother of two answered her phone. That woman, a Durham native, was enrolled at North Carolina Central, a historically black college on the south side of town. Its patchy grass and simple brick buildings are a world away from Duke.
When she arrived about 11:30 p.m., she was wearing a negligee and shiny white high heels,... (snip)
The accuser said later that both women re-entered the house after one player apologized for the behavior during their dance. She said two men then pulled her into a bathroom, locked the door and said, "Sweetheart, you can't leave."
It was then, she told the police, that Mr. Seligmann forced her to perform oral sex, and Mr. Finnerty raped and sodomized her and the third suspect strangled her, according to a transcript of a photo identification session with police on April 4. (snip)
(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...
Please try to resist the urge to ever answer a call for jury duty.
How do you know they had sex with her?
Of course, eveyone's innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. However, if either of those guys tried to pick me up in a bar, I'd run in another direction. They remind me of Hoyt from "I Am Charlotte Simmons".
"The guys in question look like just the type of sleazy frat boys with huge trust funds that might try to sexually assault someone."
And I'm just guessing what you look like.
As I said above, if I'd ever met one of those guys at a bar, I'd run in the other direction.
Your class envy is showing.
1. No
2. Small.
I have been wondering the same thing myself since day 1. Have been amazed that there has been no info. So I just put the address in a real estate website.
Total sq ft 1407 ..... Year built 1910......Assessed value 106K. 2 bedrooms 2 baths.
You can draw your own inference from this about the probable size of the bathroom.
I'm sorry, but let's defend the little frat boys instead of waiting for a trial. Let's paper over the fact that this women might actually have a case. Of course, let's gloss over the fact that date rape and sexual assault occurs on college campuses every day. Heck, it's probably the women's fault that this happened as it always is.
How drunk would you have to be in order to do something that would seriously piss her off?
Why wait; let's have a public lynching right now.
Oh... frat boys don't have to have trust funds to be sleazes (but it sure does help). However, I must admit that I am biased because I did go to this place called college and I was unfortunately privvy to some of the nasty behavior of this type of frat guy..
"I'm sorry, but let's defend the little frat boys instead of waiting for a trial. Let's paper over the fact that this women might actually have a case. Of course, let's gloss over the fact that date rape and sexual assault occurs on college campuses every day. Heck, it's probably the women's fault that this happened as it always is."
I'm sorry, but let's wait for outcome of the trial. Let's paper over the fact that this woman is a liar and doesn't have a case. Of course, let's gloss over the fact that the vast majority of rapes and sexual assaults do not occur on campuses. Heck, it's probably the man's fault because he has a penis.
Well, since you insist on publicly lynching the accuser, I'm more than willing to return the favor...
If the girl is sexually excited, she will be naturally lubricated. Vaginal penetration on an unlubricated woman will cause detectable abrasions.
We're discussing the facts.
You're showing your bias and ignorance of what has gone on.
But if that's the way you like to be perceived, that's on you.
A little bitter, are we?
In my experience, most frat guys don't need to rape a skanky 'ho to get their jollies. There are plenty of women to go around.
I agree that often, college guys engage in boorish, immature and inappropriate behavior, as do college girls. But I think that this is part of the maturing process for some. It doesn't make it right, but it's common.
But these allegations are so obviously false, they are almost laughable if they hadn't already destroyed so many lives.
You now these particular guys personally?
Sounds to me like you have an ax to grind with college people in general.
I should also add: can a medical exam which shows a woman had unlibricated sex differentiate between a woman who was raped and an uninterested prostitute? Not likely
So will vigorous sex.
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