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Flip-Flop In Duke Rape Scandal (Source: Timeline Supports Duke Players)
CBS News ^ | 04/21/06 | staff

Posted on 04/21/2006 8:31:00 AM PDT by Perdogg

CBS News correspondent Trish Regan reports that defense sources say Finnerty was eating at a Mexican restaurant when the alleged rape is said to have occurred. And they say Seligmann may not have been in the house during most of the time the alleged rape was carried out.

According to a neighbor's testimony, the stripper arrived at the house around 11:50 p.m., although the prosecution may argue she arrived earlier.

The defense says it has time-stamped photos of the stripper. The first was taken at midnight, followed by a series of pictures over the next four minutes that show her and Roberts.

There is a time gap in the photos of the alleged victim between 12:03:57 and 12:30:12, when she's seen at the back entrance of the house and appears to be leaving. A neighbor said he believes he saw her in the front yard sometime between 12:20 and 12:30.

Based on the time-stamps, there is a 16- to 26-minute window in which she could have been assaulted. But, during most of that time, Seligmann may not have been in the house.

Sources for the defense tell CBS News that cell phone records show Seligmann made calls at 12:07, 12:09 and 12:11. At 12:14, he called a cab to pick him up. Driver Moez Mostafar says he got that call and showed CBS News his dispatch records to prove it. He says he picked up Seligmann at 12:19.

"He looked normal, nothing looked unusual to me," Mostafar said. "He asked me to go to Wachovia Bank where he can get some money.

(Excerpt) Read more at cbsnews.com ...


TOPICS: Local News; Miscellaneous; Society; Sports
KEYWORDS: duke; dukelax; durham; rape; witchhunt
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To: Howlin

In some of the interview Kim comes across as if she had rehearsed her statements many times.


61 posted on 04/21/2006 9:22:48 PM PDT by TexKat
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To: TexKat

Yes, but when she gets started...it's something else.

I can imagine her being cross examined. There is noway she would keep her cool.


62 posted on 04/21/2006 9:24:22 PM PDT by snarkytart
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To: All

Wonder what's going on in the Nifong camp... Surely he can't believe that there is anything valid about Crystal's claim of rape at this point.

(Then I remind myself of the posters at CTV who STILL believe that this creature was raped.)


63 posted on 04/21/2006 9:27:21 PM PDT by Mad-Margaret
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To: Jrabbit

And I am surprised.

Are you surprised?

Check yes or no.


64 posted on 04/21/2006 9:28:22 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Howlin

In some of the interview Kim comes across as if she had rehearsed her statements many times. Shes going to get her 15 minutes of fame regardless of what you jive turkeys say. :)


65 posted on 04/21/2006 9:30:33 PM PDT by TexKat
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To: snarkytart; Jrabbit; maggief; Mad-Margaret; abb; mystery-ak

"Ghetto fabulous!"

I like it; add it to our Duke Trial Lexicon List!


66 posted on 04/21/2006 9:31:32 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: TexKat

She was soundly trashed by almost everybody I saw talking about her on TV today.

And without fail, almost all the talking heads, even the ones who are pro-prosecution, said she was now useless as a witness for Nifong.


67 posted on 04/21/2006 9:32:52 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Perdogg
Didn't the woman herself claim she was raped between 12 and 1230?

Yes, after they were apologized to and came back into the house she states that she and Kim were separated and she was kicked, strangled and raped for 30 minutes in the BR...
68 posted on 04/21/2006 9:34:54 PM PDT by darbymcgill
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To: snarkytart

Kim says something very important during her interview which AP chose to ignore. It has the potential to diminish the 27 minute rape opportunity even more. Remember the last picture was taken at 12:03 and the next picture isn't until 12:30.
The strippers apparently left the house and had to be coaxed back inside. How long did that take? 5 minutes? But then Kim says something even more revealing. The Duke players said the strippers locked themselves in the bathroom- probably when they first came back in the house. How do we know they were in the john together? During the interview, Kim says,
"The only thing I did not see was the rape because I was not in the bathroom at that particular moment"- which means they were in the bathroom together. How long were they in the bathroom together? 5 minutes? That leaves 17 minutes for the rape and totally exonerates Seligman.


69 posted on 04/21/2006 9:39:43 PM PDT by Krankor (T)
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To: Howlin
Keep me pinged to this stuff will you please?

Not because I'm really interested in this particular case, I'm just really enjoying watching this Dem DA make a complete and utter fool of himself.

L

70 posted on 04/21/2006 9:41:23 PM PDT by Lurker (Anyone who doesn't demand an immediate end to illegal immigration is aiding the flesh trade.)
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To: Lurker

I'll be glad to.

It's like living in a parallel universe, isn't it?


71 posted on 04/21/2006 9:42:42 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Perdogg
Video: ABC11tv - Latest Team Coverage Defense Questions Police Lineup
72 posted on 04/21/2006 9:45:47 PM PDT by TexKat
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To: Howlin

Please put me on. I lose y'all half of the time and can't find you the other half. I am falling behind in this case like I do every other one, lol.


73 posted on 04/21/2006 9:48:31 PM PDT by PleaseNoMore
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To: Howlin
I have looked high and low for the detailed list of all the photos... any idea where a copy might be found... if i recall there was a list of 21 or so of the time stamped photos with a brief description of each... I can only find a listing of about 8 or 10...

thanks...
74 posted on 04/21/2006 9:49:03 PM PDT by darbymcgill
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To: Perdogg

bttt


75 posted on 04/21/2006 9:52:20 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: Howlin

She reminds me of this gold digging, lazy, good for absolutly nothing, motor mouth, leech that my son met when he first went off to college.


76 posted on 04/21/2006 9:53:02 PM PDT by TexKat
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To: TexKat

OMG..........I hope he got away from her pronto.


77 posted on 04/21/2006 9:57:22 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: darbymcgill

This is one of them:

http://www.wral.com/news/8764090/detail.html


78 posted on 04/21/2006 9:58:43 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Howlin
If you saw Greta tonight, there was a reporter from the Durham Herald Sun who mentioned how Kim recognized Finnerty. I emailed the reporter Ray Gronberg
Subject: Greta's show
Ray, Enjoyed your comments on Greta’s show- especially the one about Kim recognizing Colin Finnerty.According to the AP interview, Kim referred to him as the “little skinny one”. I understand Finnerty’s around 6'3". Ray, I hope you like Durham- sounds like you'll be there a while.

His response:
Finnerty is 6-3, but he's also only 175 lbs. Sounds pretty skinny to me. See the attached photo.
(he sent a pic of a skinny Colin towering over a minivan)
79 posted on 04/21/2006 10:06:57 PM PDT by Krankor (T)
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To: darbymcgill

Darby, I have another comparison between Dan Abrams and the Durham Herald Sun, but I just can't lay my hands on it right this second. I'll find it for you.


80 posted on 04/21/2006 10:08:14 PM PDT by Howlin
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