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2nd Duke party dancer now questions doubts about accuser
Daily Comet & AP ^ | April 21, 2006 | ALLEN G. BREED

Posted on 04/21/2006 12:56:01 AM PDT by OakOak

Edited on 04/21/2006 2:52:00 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

At first, a stripper who performed at a Duke University lacrosse team party doubted the story of a colleague who told police she was dragged into a bathroom and raped.

Now, Kim Roberts isn't so sure.

"I was not in the bathroom when it happened, so I can't say a rape occurred - and I never will," Roberts told The Associated Press Thursday in her first on-the-record interview. But after watching defense attorneys release photos of the accuser, and upset by the leaking of both dancers' criminal pasts, she said she has to "wonder about their character."

"In all honesty, I think they're guilty," she said. "And I can't say which ones are guilty ... but somebody did something besides underage drinking. That's my honest-to-God impression."

Attorneys for the 46 players have aggressively proclaimed the players' innocence, citing DNA tests during a public campaign that has included describing and releasing photos from the party.

Those photos, the defense maintains, show the accuser was both injured and impaired when she arrived, and also support the claim that one of the two players who has been indicted would not have had enough time to participate in any assault before he left the party. The district attorney has said he also hopes to charge a third suspect in the case.

The attorneys claim Roberts at first told a member of the defense team that she did not believe the accuser's allegations. They say she has changed her story to gain favorable treatment in a criminal case against her. They note she also e-mailed a New York public relations firm, asking in her letter for advice on "how to spin this to my advantage."

"We believe ... her story has been motivated by her own self-interest," said attorney Bill Thomas, who represents one of the uncharged players. "I think that a jury will ultimately have to decide the question of her credibility."

Roberts, 31, was arrested on March 22 - eight days after the party - on a probation violation from a 2001 conviction for embezzling $25,000 from a photofinishing company in Durham where she was a payroll specialist, according to documents obtained by the AP.

On Monday, the same day a grand jury indicted lacrosse players Reade Seligmann and Collin Finnerty, a judge agreed to a change so that Roberts would no longer have to pay a 15 percent fee to a bonding agent. District Attorney Mike Nifong signed a document saying he would not oppose the change.

"It seems she is receiving very favorable financial treatment for what she is now saying," Thomas said.

Mark Simeon, Roberts' attorney, said the bond conditions were changed because Roberts is not considered a flight risk. Nifong, who hasn't spoken with reporters about the case in weeks, didn't return a call seeking comment.

Roberts' testimony could be vital during any trial of the two sophomores, indicted on charges of first-degree rape, sexual offense and kidnapping.

Other than lacrosse players and the accuser, a 27-year-old student at a nearby university, Roberts is believed to be the only other person at the March 13 party.

Roberts said Thursday she does not remember Seligmann's face, but said she recalls seeing Finnerty - whom she described as the "little skinny one."

"I was looking him right in the eyes," she said.

Although she would not talk extensively about the party, she confirmed some of what the other dancer told police - including that the women initially left the party after one of the players threatened to sodomize the women with a broomstick.

The players' attorneys have said their clients were angry and demanded a refund when the women stopped dancing, but Roberts disputed that.

"They ripped themselves off when they started hollering about a broomstick," she said.

The accuser told police that the women were coaxed back into the house with an apology, at which point they were separated. That's when she said she was dragged into a bathroom and raped, beaten and choked for a half hour.

Later, police received a 911 call from a woman complaining that she had been called racial slurs by white men gathered outside the home where the party took place. The defense has said it believes the second dancer at the party made that call.

Roberts then drove the accuser - whom she reportedly had just met that night - to a grocery store and asked a security guard to call 911. The accuser was described later by a police officer as "just passed-out drunk."

The defense timeline is backed up by a cab driver who said Seligmann called for a ride at 12:14 a.m., and was picked up five minutes later. The defense argues that if the dancers were performing around midnight, Seligmann would not have had enough time to participate in the 30-minute assault described by the accuser.

The cabbie, Moez Mostafa, also said he saw a woman leaving the party in anger, and overheard someone say, "She just a stripper. She's going to call the police."

"She looked, like, mad," he said of the woman. "In her face, the way she walked, the way she talked, she looked like mad."

On Thursday, authorities released warrants detailing their search earlier this week of Finnerty's dorm room. Seized during the search were a newspaper article and an envelope addressed to Finnerty.

Also Thursday, 5W Public Relations, a New York firm that specializes in "crisis communication," distributed an e-mail signed "The 2nd Dancer," and Roberts confirmed she sent it after learning the AP knew her identity.

"I've found myself in the center of one of the biggest stories in the country," she wrote. "I'm worried about letting this opportunity pass me by without making the best of it and was wondering if you had any advice as to how to spin this to my advantage."

Ronn Torossian, 5W's president, said he replied, but got no response.

"If this person is indeed who they say they are, I would be happy to speak with her," said Torossian, whose firm has represented the likes of Sean "Diddy" Combs, Ice Cube and Lil' Kim.

Roberts, like the accuser a divorced single mother who is black, took umbrage at the notion that she should not try to make something out of her experience. She's worried that once her name and criminal record are public, no one will want to hire her.

"Why shouldn't I profit from it?" she asked. "I didn't ask to be in this position ... I would like to feed my daughter."

Roberts is bracing for an all-out attack, but said she's almost past caring.

"Don't forget that they called me a damn n####," she said. "She (the accuser) was passed out in the car. She doesn't know what she was called. I was called that. I can never forget that."


BLOCKBUSTER !! KIM's a GEM !!

Roberts, 31, was arrested on March 22 - eight days after the party - on a probation violation from a 2001 conviction for embezzling $25,000 from a photofinishing company in Durham where she was a payroll specialist, according to documents obtained by the AP.


TOPICS: Local News
KEYWORDS: da; dancer; duke; dukelax; durham; lacrosse; lax; rape
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To: maggief

Ah, hannnity is not good at all.
Who is this idiot saying 'The defense could be legal trouble for to the leaking to the media.'

lol

Back to Aruba..sheesh.


1,381 posted on 04/21/2006 6:10:51 PM PDT by snarkytart
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To: Krodg

Hahahahaha! Too late, I already saw the link the other day :-p


1,382 posted on 04/21/2006 6:11:19 PM PDT by TheSpottedOwl (I care for my pets better than Vincente Fox cares for his own citizens)
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To: Howlin

I just screamed at whoever that slimey legal analyst is. Power elite my a$$!! And that putrid DA most certainly did say the kids were guilty!


1,383 posted on 04/21/2006 6:11:32 PM PDT by Jrabbit (Kaufman County, Texas)
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To: Howlin

What second part? Gotta look again after H&C.


1,384 posted on 04/21/2006 6:13:02 PM PDT by Mad-Margaret
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To: El Gran Salseron

Court TV


1,385 posted on 04/21/2006 6:13:20 PM PDT by Jrabbit (Kaufman County, Texas)
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To: Howlin
Did NBC17 report that tonight?

Yes. Not a big piece. But this is the 1st time I've heard there were non-players (2) there, and Nifong didn't want their pics or DNA involved in the ID process.

Odd. IF they were there, why isolate them out because they don't play lacrosse?

1,386 posted on 04/21/2006 6:14:15 PM PDT by Swanks
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To: Swanks

No, very, very early on, there were rumblings about "people" being at the event who were NOT LAXDuke. 3, I remember that. 3 people. But, that got tossed as the Trial by Media and DA went forging ahead.


1,387 posted on 04/21/2006 6:17:30 PM PDT by Alia
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To: snarkytart

OMG, Jesse Jackass coming up ... more wine!


1,388 posted on 04/21/2006 6:19:02 PM PDT by maggief ( ... and YOU know what I'm talkin' about.)
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To: All

Jess ALERT!

On H&C.


1,389 posted on 04/21/2006 6:19:11 PM PDT by Mad-Margaret
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To: snarkytart

I'm excited now. Jesse Jackson will speak about the DUKE rape case!

whoo-hoo!


1,390 posted on 04/21/2006 6:19:57 PM PDT by Jrabbit (Kaufman County, Texas)
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To: Howlin
Tex, off topic: this woman who was arrested today, Mary McCarthy, can she legally make donations to campaigns as a political appointee, do you know?

I heard about this on the radio on the way home this evening. But did not know that it was a female. However I do not know the answer to your question. But here is some info that I found. I have not read all that the following contains. Hope it helps!

MEMORANDUM FOR ALL DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE CAREER EMPLOYEES

MEMORANDUM FOR ALL DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE NON-CAREER EMPLOYEES

1,391 posted on 04/21/2006 6:23:03 PM PDT by TexKat
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To: Mad-Margaret; maggief

There are two clips there.


1,392 posted on 04/21/2006 6:23:06 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: TexKat

Thanks!


1,393 posted on 04/21/2006 6:23:35 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Alia
Right but Nifong's out of his mind:
ONLY show the AV potential perps from a list of 100% Duke students.
Mix in zero photos of obviously non-involved people.
ONLY show Duke lacrosse players, not just Duke students.
EXCLUDE two people who were at the scene but happened to not play lacrosse.
Do this, against NC rules and procedures

The man is crazy.

1,394 posted on 04/21/2006 6:23:38 PM PDT by Swanks
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To: Mad-Margaret
I've actually got a great idea to help Colin!

I haven't heard much about it but isn't he saying that he was eating a Mexican dinner at the time of the alleged crime?

A Perry Mason moment on the stand:

"Mr. Finnerty, what kind of salad did you have with that Mexican dinner?"

If he can come right back without hesitation and say, "It was some shredded iceberg lettuce, a few tasteless diced tomatoes and a tablespoon of sour cream"...then we will ~~know~~ that he is telling the truth!

1,395 posted on 04/21/2006 6:25:59 PM PDT by LK44-40
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To: maggief
OMG, put her on the witness stand!!! How fun would that be?

No kidding! Who was the guy sitting next to her, her lawyer or her nerve booster?

1,396 posted on 04/21/2006 6:26:41 PM PDT by TexKat
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To: Jrabbit
I'm excited now. Jesse Jackson will speak about the DUKE rape case!

I am anxious to see whether he will win you over to his point of view, Jrabbit!

1,397 posted on 04/21/2006 6:28:26 PM PDT by LK44-40
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To: Jrabbit

Thank you. :-)


1,398 posted on 04/21/2006 6:28:46 PM PDT by El Gran Salseron (The FR Canteen's Resident Equal Opportunity Male Chauvinist Pig! :-))
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To: LK44-40

Ha!

I hope both of these two boys (and the email boy too) can put their lives back together after this outrage has been ended. Unfortunately, it seems that their reputations will be tarnished forever.


1,399 posted on 04/21/2006 6:29:53 PM PDT by Mad-Margaret
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To: TheSpottedOwl
The DA from Michael Peterson case (who I thought was excellent) stated that Nifong actually took over the police investigation. I do not know what happened with the stripper.

However, it is obvious that the two lacrosse players arrested could not have done it. Both have alibis - one the cab driver, the other was at a restaurant. And not one piece of evidence against them except a belated ID by a drunken stripper who picked them out from photos of the team - that's not the way it is done.

This case is taking on the the appearance of a witch-hunt/frame-up.

1,400 posted on 04/21/2006 6:32:42 PM PDT by Dante3
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