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Expectant mom dies in collision on Easter Sunday
Birmingham News ^ | 4/17/06 | KIM BRYAN and JEREMY GRAY

Posted on 04/19/2006 8:15:37 AM PDT by Full Court

Expectant mom dies in collision

Monday, April 17, 2006
KIM BRYAN and JEREMY GRAY
News staff writers

A 27-year-old expectant mother died in a head-on collision Sunday on U.S. 31 in Shelby County, authorities said.

Sarah Porter, 27, of Jemison died in the 11:20 a.m. accident, said Sgt. Tim Sartain, Alabama State Troopers spokesman. She was six months pregnant, said Doug Ballard Jr., Shelby County coroner.

Her husband, 29-year-old Heath Porter, remained in critical condition at UAB Hospital Sunday night, said Bob Shepherd, hospital spokesman.

Marco Guarviola, 26, address unknown, a passenger in the 2003 Chevrolet pickup truck that collided with the Porters' 2002 Volkswagen, was also taken to UAB Hospital, where he was listed as critical Sunday night, Shepherd said.

Manuel Valdez, 22, address unknown, who was also in the truck, was taken to Princeton Baptist Medical Center. Efforts to reach a hospital spokesman Sunday night were unsuccessful.

The accident, which occurred in the Saginaw community just south of Alabaster, is under investigation, Sartain said. He declined to provide details.

Several serious accidents have occurred at the site, Sartain said.

"I don't understand why so many accidents have occurred at this particular location," Sartain said. "Traffic is moderately heavy, but the street is a straight, two-lane stretch."

Accident fatalities are always sad, Sartain said.

"But this happening on Easter Sunday is such a tragedy," he said.

E-mail: kbryan@bhamnews.com


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To: Corin Stormhands

Plus we're a cult, like Scientology, and have to defend our members. Did you get the secret message about the next Freeper we're going to gang up on and personally attack?

Oh, was I not supposed to mention that out loud? ;-)


421 posted on 04/20/2006 10:02:50 AM PDT by JenB
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To: Ramius
Good morning.
"Maybe we can hijack the Mac versus PC threads and make them about immigration too."

And you threw that in here because it relates how? Maybe you could do some research and tell us how many workers for each company are, let me say it again, young men with Hispanic names and no known addresses.

Michael Frazier
422 posted on 04/20/2006 10:02:59 AM PDT by brazzaville (no surrender no retreat, well, maybe retreat's ok)
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To: JenB; Ramius; RMDupree
Oh, was I not supposed to mention that out loud? ;-)

If you have to say it out loud, say it in Spanish...

423 posted on 04/20/2006 10:04:05 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands (This tagline has expired.)
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To: brazzaville; Ramius
And you threw that in here because it relates how?

Sarcasm escapes you, does it not?

424 posted on 04/20/2006 10:04:39 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands (This tagline has expired.)
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To: Corin Stormhands

Um... I only remember "donde es el bano" and "una mas cerveza, por favor". Don't tell the homeschool crowd, they'll think I'm lettting the team down.


425 posted on 04/20/2006 10:05:43 AM PDT by JenB
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To: JenB
I just came for the popcorn.

I see the offending editorial comment in the title has been removed...

426 posted on 04/20/2006 10:06:20 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: HairOfTheDog

I'm bored and don't have any pressing work to do this morning. Hand me some of that popcorn, wouldya?

The last thread we mobbed in defense of our own was more fun though.


427 posted on 04/20/2006 10:07:39 AM PDT by JenB
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To: HairOfTheDog
I see the offending editorial comment in the title has been removed...

Yes, but that's still not the original title.

And we're not serving popcorn. You can stay for nachos.

428 posted on 04/20/2006 10:08:18 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands (This tagline has expired.)
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To: RMDupree
Good morning.
"I've been asking Full Court for that information for almost 24 hours now. She's the one that posted that they were illegal Mexican immigrants in the first place, so the burden is on ~her~ to back it up."

Yeah, but you and a few others are the ones who jumped Full Court. I get the impression you are playing with her and I wonder why.

Michael Frazier
429 posted on 04/20/2006 10:09:39 AM PDT by brazzaville (no surrender no retreat, well, maybe retreat's ok)
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To: stopem

This is another thing I find interesting on this thread. Several people have commented indignantly that an "American baby!" was killed, with no mention of the fully grown woman the American Baby was inside.

You'd think an adult woman would merit a passing mention... :]


430 posted on 04/20/2006 10:09:58 AM PDT by linda_22003
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To: brazzaville
Whether the two young men with Hispanic names and no known addresses are illegal, or have driver's licenses or insurance, or are to blame for the accident, is less interesting to me than the vehemence with which you folks are going after her.

That's amazing. You're more concerned with those pursuing truth than confronting a person who adds unsubstantiated information to a headline.

The fact that we're all Hobbit Holers is irrelevant.

431 posted on 04/20/2006 10:10:13 AM PDT by RMDupree (HHD: Join the Hobbit Hole Troop Support - http://freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net/)
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To: Corin Stormhands; JenB

I'm going to behave myself over here in a corner... :~D


432 posted on 04/20/2006 10:10:46 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: brazzaville
Yeah, but you and a few others are the ones who jumped Full Court.

I didn't "jump" her. I asked her how she knew the other driver was a Mexican immigrant.

I get the impression you are playing with her and I wonder why.

Well, she is acting a little loopy by crying out that she is being attacked when all that was asked is "where's your source?"

Please notice that this source has still not surfaced.

433 posted on 04/20/2006 10:13:59 AM PDT by RMDupree (HHD: Join the Hobbit Hole Troop Support - http://freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net/)
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To: Corin Stormhands

mmmmm....nachos....


434 posted on 04/20/2006 10:14:42 AM PDT by RMDupree (HHD: Join the Hobbit Hole Troop Support - http://freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net/)
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To: VeniVidiVici

We just purchased a new vehicle yesterday and the insurance company asked for our driver's license number.


435 posted on 04/20/2006 10:22:13 AM PDT by Millicent_Hornswaggle (Retired US Marine wife)
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To: brazzaville; RMDupree
Yeah, but you and a few others are the ones who jumped Full Court. I get the impression you are playing with her and I wonder why.

To the contrary. We asked her to document her "information" and reason for altering the title.

When she could not, she called us "immigration apologists" who belong at DU.

436 posted on 04/20/2006 10:23:41 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands (This tagline has expired.)
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To: Corin Stormhands
Good morning.
"Not BS at all. It's statistically verifiable."

Sure it is, FRiend. Of course you are more likely to be involved on an accident with a citizen. There are what, 300,000,000 people in the US and only 12 to 30 million illegals here as of an hour ago.

I think I will finish this and go on a data hunt. I'm now curious about how many illegals are involved in accidents each year. Don't bother mentioning fault, since they wouldn't be involved in accidents in the US if they weren't here.

I'll be back later. Carry on.

Michael Frazier
437 posted on 04/20/2006 10:25:14 AM PDT by brazzaville (no surrender no retreat, well, maybe retreat's ok)
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To: RMDupree
Good morning.
"But of course. In that, you and Full Court are similar. You only want to spout off your nonsense and never have it challenged.

Your mental gymnastics must be exhausting!"

Ah, I got your goat.

I'll continue later if you are still here.

Michael Frazier
438 posted on 04/20/2006 10:30:17 AM PDT by brazzaville (no surrender no retreat, well, maybe retreat's ok)
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To: brazzaville; RMDupree
Of course you are more likely to be involved on an accident with a citizen...

When RMDupree made that statement, you called it BS.

I'm now curious about how many illegals are involved in accidents each year.

Oh, that information is out there. And I'm sure the numbers are justfiably high.

But, once again, no one has denied the problem of illegal immigration and all the associated societal ills.

But, it is simply ludicrous to assert that this woman and her child would be alive if the borders were sealed. We don't know that. We can't prove that.

Would things be a lot better if we solved the problem of illegal immigration? Sure.

Would there be fewer traffic accidents if we solved the problem of illegal immigratoin? Perhaps.

But the fact remains that illegal immigrants are not the only cause of accidents in this country. Nor are they the only ones driving without a license. We had two teenagers killed (and two severely injured) last month when the kids (from a good anglo-saxon upscale family) took off in mom's car in the middle of the night.

Securing the borders would not have saved their lives. Securing their butts in their bedroom might have.

The fact remains that you cannot say this woman and child would be alive if the borders were secure.

AFAIK, we still don't ~know~ who was at fault in this accident.

439 posted on 04/20/2006 10:33:57 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands (This tagline has expired.)
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To: brazzaville; Full Court

You don't bother me, Michael. At least you're willing to look up information to back up what you're saying.

I'm still waiting for Full Court to do the same.

*crickets*


440 posted on 04/20/2006 10:35:27 AM PDT by RMDupree (HHD: Join the Hobbit Hole Troop Support - http://freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net/)
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