Posted on 04/19/2006 4:37:00 AM PDT by MindBender26
Breaking overnight from Chris Cummo at ABC GMA:
Case against at least one Duke defemdant unraveling fast.
Defendant Seiligman went to bank ATM while rape supposedly happening.
12:02 Time stamped photos show girl arriving. Girl leaves, comes back, call friends on cell phone does other things. 12:19 Seiligman calls cab dispatcher 12:24 Seiligman takes cab to bank miles away, uses ATM card (photos show it is him.) 12:42 after walking back to dorm, Seiligman uses security card to enter dorm. Does not leave.
Also, Seiligman was never interviewed by cops. DA seeking reelection simply took "Dancers" word that he raped her.
Can you young whippersnappers explain to us oldsters who that drug works on you? How fast? Do you stand around smiling when you have had it?
It comes on at 11:00 here in replay; I'll set the VCR.
... Ya' know Nifong may have sensed two wheels coming off the wagon here, at 'line up' time. Gives new meaning to: "she identified with 100% certainly". Yeah, 100% certainly a Duke perp would emerge from a line up of only 100% Duke player photos.
The other two wheels would HAVE come off, if princess ID'd someone who was not even a Duke player.
How to win an election, if you can't go forward with an indictment?
By in effect insuring 100%, that Mangum would include a Duke player identity, he could set up an easy 'out' to claim he HAD to indict.
He has a woman who showed physical signs of sexual activity alleging rape. The black community is enraged and demands justice. Nifong, however, obviously rushed to judgment initially, but he has now stopped talking about the case. In the meantime, the alleged victim still stands by her claim, so Nifong is forced into action.
The grand jury has no choice but to indict in this instance. Now the onus is on Nifong to try the case, and if Crystal was incorrect on her "100%" ID, and if the defense has proof of them not being there at the time of the "crime", this case unravels and Nifong either has to drop it or get Crystal to change her story (AGAIN).
The end result is this. If the defense has the alibi they say they have, Crystal will be the one vilified, not Nifong. This is why presenting the "evidence" to the grand jury was actually a decent idea by Nifong.
"Not my incompetance, the woman pick them out of a lineup. What else could I do?"
I stumbled across this info posted on another site, had not heard the Bunnyhole mentioned before:
Duke Accuser's Info:
Crystal Gail Mangum (confirmed).
Has had several run-ins with the law before. (confirmed)
Exotic Dancer, sources say she worked for Bunnyhole Entertainment (warning not for chiildren) (908) 220-4809
Bunnyhole Domain Owned by: Willie Drewery, 717 5B washington Ave Linden, New Jersey 07023
Girl is 27 yrs old
Divorced
Two Children (One Daughter, Other Unknown)
Went To Hillside High School, Located in Durham, N.C.
Student at North Carolina Central University (FULL TIME STUDENT)
Black and/or African American
And they have talked to people who were with her before she got there?
These boys need to be vindicated or they will go through their whole lives as thr rich kid who got away with rape..
Would you clarify whether you have to be a registered Democrat to vote in the primary on May 2?
"Are we sure they were found in the bathroom?
I still think the fingernails were found in the makeup kit."
Here is the relevant language from the police affidavit:
"During a search warrant at 610 N.Buchanan on 3-16-2006 the victim’s four red polished fingernails were recovered inside the residence consistent to her version of the attack. She claimed she was clawing at one of the suspect’s arms in an attempt to breathe while being strangled. During that time the nails broke off. The victim’s makeup bag, cellphone, and identification were also located inside the residence during the search warrant. Finally, a pile of twenty dollar bills were recovered from inside the residence totaling $160.00 consistent with the victim claiming $400.00 cash in all twenty dollar bills was taken from her purse immediately after the rape."
http://www.newsobserver.com/content/news/crime_safety/duke_lacrosse/story_graphics/20060405_warrant.pdf
The police say clearly that the fingernails, makeup bag, cellphone, identification and cash were all recovered INSIDE THE RESIDENCE, not outside on the ground.
The fingernails were recovered INSIDE THE RESIDENCE CONSISTENT TO HER VERSION OF THE ATTACK which I think can only mean they were found in the bathroom where she was clawing at them, and NOT inside the makeup bag.
The other items were not necessarily in the bathroom, but they were inside the house and not in the yard, so one of the housemates clearly must have picked them up and brought them inside.
Also, it seems as if the student who put her in the car put her purse in there too, but not her makeup bag, as she says they stole cash out of her purse but not the purse itself, and there was only one bag (the makeup purse) and not two bags recovered at the house.
I have a feeling that's not going to be good enough for the defense team.
The other thing that is odd to me with this case is that in the county where I work the prosecutor's office usually does not get involved in the case until after the police investigation is complete.
...and was in the Navy...
I'm sure that house gets a lot of traffic - both from teammates and friends and from female groupies (lacrossitutes).
The sex of a donor can be determined from DNA.
He did. O'Reilly has this guy on occasionally; he must know and trust him.
Anyway, he did say that he had talked to several people who had seen the accuser before she went to the lacrosse party, and ALL said she was intoxicated.
This is outrageous. Is there any way this guy can sue for wrongful prosecution? I certainly know that the girl is a turnip, but does the DA have any exposure? This is an absolute outrage!
Would you believe I was sent this anonymously through my FreeRepublic email forwarding thingy, from someone who wants this information out for some reason:
Milton A. Mangum
HENDERSON - Milton Allen Mangum, 53, of 619 Eaves Road, Henderson, in the Epsom Community died Friday, Aug. 5, 2005, at his home.
Born in Vance County, he was the son of Irene Mangum White of Henderson and the late William Lee White.
Mr. Mangum was a former employee of Burlington Industries, Inc.
A memorial service will be held today at 3 p.m. at Flowers Funeral Chapel conducted by the Rev. Leon Gupton.
Surviving, in addition to his mother, are his wife, Terry Stokes Mangum; a daughter, Christal Gail Mangum, of Raleigh; a son, John Allen Mangum, of Henderson; two stepdaughters, Jeanette Pruitt Richardson of Willow Springs and Melissa Pruitt Wilson of Henderson; a sister, Pat White Hodge of Henderson; one grandchild; and two stepgrandchildren.
The family will receive friends today at Flowers Funeral Chapel immediately following the service. All other times they will be at the home at 619 Eaves Road, Henderson.
Flowers will be accepted, or memorials may be made to the church or charity of one's choic
You're absolutely right.
Now that they've been indicted and their names and family information has been made public, it is in Finnerty's and Seligmann's best interests to go to trial and be found not guilty. Otherwise, they will have this hanging over their heads for the rest of their lives. They should demand a speedy trial, as is their Constitutional right, and force Nifong into court.
But in spite of all this, if their attorneys can get the indictment thrown out, that's the way to go. They can't risk a conviction.
p.s. I hope I made sense.
Wow! Thanks for that information; I won't bother taping the show tonight.
Did they know WHERE Crystal was before the party or who she was with while drunk?
Thank you!
Very interesting....and makes Kim to be even more of a liar.
So who the heck has been interviewed as her father?
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