Posted on 04/18/2006 2:53:19 PM PDT by zaxxon
One of the two Duke University lacrosse players arrested on charges of raping and kidnapping a 27-year-old woman at an off-campus party had been arrested in the fall for assaulting a man in Washington, D.C., and the other was not present when the alleged crime occurred, sources told ABC News.
Multiple sources told ABC News that Reade Seligmann, 20, was not present in the house at the time the alleged victim says the crime occurred. Sources say this is established through different witness accounts, as well as cell phone and credit-card records.
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He's rich.
He's white.
He's male.
He'll do...
"In some ways its best that the players have to go through this."
They should only be going through this if there is reason to believe they committed a crime. The purpose of criminal law should be to punish the guilty, not drag everybody's name through the mud.
Just a one word reply.....duh!
He was being sarcastic.
If I heard it right over the radio last week, there was no skin at all under her finger nails. After a "rape" I would swear that they find huge amounts of skin and DNA under the nails. It would be difficult to wash it all away, too.
"the theories being floated over at BlackAmericaWeb and DemocraticUnderground are un-friggin-believable."
You'll live a happier life if you avoid those sites as much as possible.
Y'know, NMH, I think you should leave yourself open to the slight possiblity that San Jacinto may have been kidding around...
Good call, it was sex in a bathroom.
Fox Radio News reporting that at least one, and possibly both, of the accused were NOT even at the house when the alleged assault/rape occurred,
No, Bill Clinton only had things other-than-sex-but-a-heck-of-a-lot-like-sex in that bathroom.
Just more proof the DA needs to be slapped and the slut needs to be jailed.
thecoffeehouse: I agree... In some ways its best that the players have to go through this. If there is no indictment, then the black community screams racism etc. At least now, the players can defend themselves, and clear their name that has already been trashed. "
Another freeper on another Duke thread proffered a very interesting theory (wish I could give him/her credit but that thread is now closing in on 2000 posts & I don't have the time to go back & track down the author). Poster suggested that Nifong realizes he's screwed no matter what. Sees his accuser's credibility tanking further as every day goes by.Has a brilliant idea: by going ahead & deliberately ginning up indictments of guys who have alibis, accuser's already shaky story gets blown definitively out of the water. Black community sees DA tried to get justice, but this girl is obviously one sick puppy with a serious substance problem. Team members clear their names, white Durham sees that justice has been done (somewhat). Everybody lives happily ever after. It's not my theory - "Iwrong" Nifong is looking more and more to me that he doesn't have the smarts to MAKE a ham sandwich let alone cunningly indict the wrong one for his own cynically self-serving purposes, so we'll see.But I thought it was interesting speculation.
In reading his post, the sarcasm should have been obvious.
Nah, only the ones with money.
Intelligent people recognize humor, sarcasm, irony, analogy, simile, hyperbole, etc. without tags to point out their usage.
As to the speculation that the DA is purposely ginning up indictments against guys he knows have alibis. The problem with that theory is:
1. It appears the DA is not personally involved with the ID process by the accuser. He said last week something to the effect that he couldn't comment much on the identification process because he was still waiting to receive a report from the police on that. It seems to be the police detectives, not the DA, interacting with the accuser in the identification, as one would expect.
2. The police detectives clearly do not have a good handle on who was and who was not at the party, because at the end of last week, apparently AFTER the indictments were prepared, police snuck into the dorms at Duke and were trying to quiz guys on who was and who was not in fact present at the party.
I think the accuser and police detectives fired and missed, at least with respect to one and perhaps both defendants.
Nice theory but there's a problem with the accused "clearing" their names. The charges are so serious that half the people will still think of them as rapists no matter what the verdict is; they will carry this cloud over their heads for the rest of their life, just like Chuck Connors in the 1960s western "Branded". In a way, the most "guilty" parties I've read about are the team captains who lived in the house -- not guilty of rape, of course, but of hiring and sponsoring a stripper, tolerating underage drinking, and not providing the slightest leadership for the younger members of the team so they could have avoided this mess (the two defendants are both sophomores). Not worthy of leadership positions.
"Someone tell me when I left America?"
So true- what a f'n travesty.
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