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1 posted on 04/16/2006 8:17:02 PM PDT by Philistone
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To: Philistone

It is San Fran Freako, why are you suprised? ;)


2 posted on 04/16/2006 8:18:23 PM PDT by RushCrush (Just another bleating sheep from the Amen corner)
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To: Coleus

Catholic Church ping?


3 posted on 04/16/2006 8:18:29 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Philistone

Well, there are ethnic Arab Christians who speak Arabic.


4 posted on 04/16/2006 8:19:27 PM PDT by xrp (Fox News Channel: MISSING WHITE GIRL NETWORK)
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To: Philistone

Many Arabs were Christians before they were Muslim. Some still are.


5 posted on 04/16/2006 8:20:26 PM PDT by Pyro7480 (Sancte Joseph, terror daemonum, ora pro nobis!)
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To: Philistone

Arabic doesn't equal Islam. Aramaic is an extinct language, so wouldn't Arabic be the next closest thing?


6 posted on 04/16/2006 8:20:43 PM PDT by sagar
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Who lives in their neighborhood? Here's the schedule from their website:

Sunday

* Saturday, 5:00 p.m. (Sunday Vigil)
* Sunday, 8:00 a.m. Portuguese/Brazilian
* Sunday, 10:00 a.m. English
* Sunday, 11:45 a.m. Arabic & English
* Sunday, 8:00 p.m. English

On certain occasions, the Sunday morning Masses may be combined. Usually a potluck celebration will follow.


8 posted on 04/16/2006 8:21:22 PM PDT by SmithL (Sarchasm: The gulf between the author of sarcastic wit and the person who doesn't get it.)
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I hope it was for Lebanese Christians and not some PC outreach program.
10 posted on 04/16/2006 8:22:24 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (If you have a leaking pipe, you shut off the water valve before deciding on amnesty for the puddles.)
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To: Philistone

The simpering pandering here is unexcusable on a Conservative thread.

Wake up people.


11 posted on 04/16/2006 8:22:49 PM PDT by Sweetjustusnow (Mr. President and Representatives, do your duty to uphold our laws or you are all gone.)
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And what exactly is the problem with Christians praying Arabic? My Patriarch is an Arab and speaks Arabic as his first language. My Metropolitan and Bishop are Arab Americans. I've been learning Byzantine chant from an old Arab, who consults the service books in Arabic when there is something unclear (or he suspects incorrect) in the English typicon notes supplied by our Archdiocese.

Mohammed fought against Christian Arabs. My bishop's ancestors hailed from a valley in Syria, the Arabic name of which means "Valley of the Christians" because his forebearers have been holding out against the Jihad since it began in the 7th century.

Arabic was the language of Jews, Christians and pagans before Mohammed, and God willing, will be a spoken by Christians when Islam is consigned to the ash-heap of history along with Communism.

(And, by the way, my Metropolitan--a native speaker of Arabic--says the purportedly poetic sections of the Koran are terrible as Arabic poetry. Hardly what one would expect from a 'divinely inspired' text.)


17 posted on 04/16/2006 8:26:23 PM PDT by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
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A Mass in Arabic, this is wonderful! Share the Word with the world.


19 posted on 04/16/2006 8:28:32 PM PDT by Jean S
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Melkite - Catholics from among those separated from Rome in Syria and Egypt who resumed Communion with Rome at the time of the Crusades. However, definitive union only came in the 18th century. Melkite Greek Patriarch of Damascus. Liturgical languages are Greek, Arabic, English, Portuguese and Spanish. The over 1 million Melkite Catholics can be found in Syria, Lebanon, Jordan, Israel, Canada, US, Mexico, Brazil, Venezuela, Argentina and Australia.
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So yes, there are Eastern Rite Catholics who do use Arabic.

More about the rite:

The Melkite Church is affiliated to the Roman Catholic Church, through the regime of Eastern Rite Churches, allowing it a great deal of autonomy and the right to preserve its original character.
The Patriarch of the church is in Damascus, and there is only one above him in the hierarchy: the pope in the Vatican State. Below are 7 archdioceses: Syria: Aleppo, Homs and Latakia; Lebanon: Beirut and Tyre; Iraq: Basra; and Jordan: Amman; and 6 dioceses: Israel: Akko; Lebanon: Baalbek, Banyias, Sayda, Tripoli and Zahle.
In the name "melkite", quite a bit of the church's history is found. The word comes from the Semitic word for king, pointing at that the Melkites took the position of the emperor (which is a powerful king) of Byzantine in the 5th century on the greatest division issue in early Christianity: the nature of Jesus. The term "melkite" was at first used by the non-Melkites, but was soon adapted, as it was and is a fairly positive term.
The Melkite of the Middle East grew from Greek immigrants. They brought with them the Byzantine rite. The liturgy of the church is performed in vernacular Arabic. The priests of the Melkite Church are allowed to marry.


20 posted on 04/16/2006 8:28:58 PM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: Philistone

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_Christians


24 posted on 04/16/2006 8:32:38 PM PDT by fotw
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St. Thomas More in San Francisco offers Sunday Mass in a number of different vernaculars to serve its ethnically diverse parishoners. Their pastor, Father Labib Kobti, is originally from Lebanon.

Sounds like the bartendress is either a Christmas/Easter Catholic or that isn't her parish.

Sunday
Saturday, 5:00 p.m. (Sunday Vigil)
Sunday, 8:00 a.m. Portuguese/Brazilian
Sunday, 10:00 a.m. English
Sunday, 11:45 a.m. Arabic & English
Sunday, 8:00 p.m. English

25 posted on 04/16/2006 8:32:43 PM PDT by A.A. Cunningham
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Most Arab-Americans are Christians, many of minority Rites within the Catholic Church. A goodly number of these folks have been chased out of their ancient homelands by the followers of Mohammed. Most are conservative.

Mass should only be in Latin as it once was just for the universiality and then your friend would not have had this problem. That said, no matter the language, the Mass was valid (even in San Francisco).

28 posted on 04/16/2006 8:36:09 PM PDT by pbear8 (I have to wait until Monday for '24'!!!! =()
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Psssst. There are Arabs that speak Arabic, who are practicing Christians. Dirty little secret, pal!


30 posted on 04/16/2006 8:37:23 PM PDT by HitmanLV (Some people like to dash it out, but they just can't take it!)
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And, if you want to be persnickety about it, today the Mass should be celebrated in Aramaic *only* - if you're going to go by the original texts.


47 posted on 04/16/2006 9:14:11 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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Lighten up, Francis.

Arab Christians worship the Christian God, same as other Christians. They just call Him Allah. Other Christian languages, such as Georgian, also call God Allah.


48 posted on 04/16/2006 9:14:28 PM PDT by denydenydeny ("Osama... made the mistake of confusing media conventional wisdom with reality" (Mark Steyn))
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DECREE ON THE CATHOLIC CHURCHES OF THE EASTERN RITE
52 posted on 04/16/2006 9:40:58 PM PDT by Coleus (Happy Easter, Jesus Christ is Risen Today, Hallelujah! Happy Birthday Pope Benedict XVI)
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Growup.And I don't like WTF and Easter-stay the hell out of bars.Better yet I hope you get a zot for Easter.


53 posted on 04/16/2006 9:46:36 PM PDT by fatima (And the beat goes on.)
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Don't Arab Christians deserve a Mass in their own tongue?

There are Spanish, English, Italian and Masses in other Languages. They should have stuck to Latin that way no one understood.

54 posted on 04/16/2006 9:58:20 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Proud soldier in the American Army of Occupation..)
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