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South Park: Cartoon Wars ['South Park' Goes After Mohammad Censorship]
TV Squad ^ | Apr 6th 2006 | Adam Finley

Posted on 04/06/2006 9:16:57 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog

Posted Apr 6th 2006 9:17AM by Adam Finley

south parkLast night South Park, in a way only South Park can, managed to mix Family Guy and the recent kerfuffle over cartoons involving the Prophet Muhammed into a scathing indictment of both. In the South Park universe, the "offensive Muhammed cartoon" is an episode of Family Guy which the Fox Network decides to censor. Cartman convinces Kyle to join him on his quest to get the episode off the air. It turns out Cartman doesn't care about the offensive episode, he just really, really, hates Family Guy, calling it poorly-written and accusing it of using interchangeable jokes, rather than jokes that actually have something to do with the plot.

I've said it on this blog and elsewhere that Family Guy's humor can be very jarring at times. Whatever plot there is has to be ground to a halt in order to insert as many one-off gags as possible. There's no effort on behalf of the writers to try and weave jokes into the story, jokes simply pop in and out wherever they seem to fit. In that regard, it's not even comparable to shows like South Park and The Simpsons, which take a more substantive approach to their humor and satire, even if South Park appears to delve into the same scatological humor as Family Guy at times.

There's a mistake that a lot of critics make, and that's to judge a show on what you think it should be rather than what it's actually trying to be. Does Family Guy use interchangeable jokes? Yes, it does, and so did the classic Warner Bros. cartoons from which the show takes its aesthetic. Family Guy has never been about depth, it has always been, from the first season on, about getting yucks. It is a CARTOON in every sense of the word, a series of animated drawings packed with as many jokes as possible, plot be damned. Nobody watches Family Guy hoping to hear some profound truth or see some hidden injustice exposed. If they want that kind of experience, they'll watch South Park. Or, if they can wrap their mind around the concept that two cartoons can have vastly different approaches to humor, they might actually be able to watch and enjoy both.

There's a moment toward the end of the episode when Kyle's Big Wheel goes crashing off a mountain, stops, and then bursts into flame. This same joke, one in which something shouldn't catch on fire but does, has been done before by both The Simpsons and Family Guy. In fact, you don't have to watch any of these animated programs for very long before you start to see some of the same gags and pop culture references. When I watched the Big Wheel explode, I thought to myself that despite making every effort to set itself apart from everything in order to have a more accurate satirical vantage point, South Park and its creators don't exist in a vacuum. Many people will tell you that any creative endeavor is just a matter of filtering and arranging ideas which already exist, and this is especially true for comedy writers. If you find something funny, it's likely someone else found it funny as well and has done it before. It's not about who did what first, it's about how you frame the joke and give it your own personal signature. In that regard, I think both Family Guy and South Park do just fine.


TOPICS: Humor; TV/Movies
KEYWORDS: cartoons; familyguy; muhammed; southpark
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To: TomGuy
I've never watched South Park...Can't wait for part 2.

Two-part episodes have been done before, sort of.

I predict that Muhammed will be revealed to be Cartman's father.

21 posted on 04/06/2006 9:41:50 AM PDT by Nicholas Conradin (If you are not disquieted by "One nation under God," try "One nation under Allah.")
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To: HairOfTheDog

Look on the thread from yesterday, lol!


22 posted on 04/06/2006 9:44:12 AM PDT by eyespysomething
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To: EveningStar

SIMPSONS DID IT!!!!


23 posted on 04/06/2006 9:44:22 AM PDT by Feiny (I only take the free tour.)
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To: HairOfTheDog

When South Park has the big-wheel burst into flames, you can tell it's a gag to make fun of how other shows have things burst into flames that shouldn't. You don't laugh because it burst into flames, you laugh because they made fun of those other shows.

It's all in the delay between the end of the crash, and the explosion.

Closest thing I can remember to it was in Groundhog day,when the truck is laying there upside down at the bottom of the quarry, and the guy looks over and says "Maybe he's OK", and then the truck blows up, and he says "Maybe not".


24 posted on 04/06/2006 9:44:57 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: feinswinesuksass
Don't have a cow man.
25 posted on 04/06/2006 9:46:57 AM PDT by mainepatsfan
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To: CharlesWayneCT
"Team America" was basically a parody of Bruckheimer action movies.
26 posted on 04/06/2006 9:48:14 AM PDT by mainepatsfan
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To: HairOfTheDog
I wish I'd kept a ping list of those people.

It would have been a waste of effort. You told them over and over about Muhammad's appearance in Super Best Friends, but they continued to rant away.

27 posted on 04/06/2006 9:48:49 AM PDT by EveningStar
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To: EveningStar
I'd forgotten all about that.
28 posted on 04/06/2006 9:50:28 AM PDT by mainepatsfan
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To: feinswinesuksass

I've seen the Simpsons perhaps a half dozen times at most, and not for many years.


29 posted on 04/06/2006 9:51:13 AM PDT by EveningStar
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To: Nicholas Conradin
"I predict that Muhammed will be revealed to be Cartman's father.

Respectfully, I must disagree with you. I think it is going to be revealed that the writers of "Family Guy" are all Scientologists.

30 posted on 04/06/2006 9:52:34 AM PDT by Volunteer (Just so you know, I am ashamed the Dixie Chicks make records in Nashville.)
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To: EveningStar

Yeah - but that was a rather sympathetic portrayal... That doesn't count to them.


31 posted on 04/06/2006 9:56:36 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog (Hobbit Hole knives for soldiers! www.freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net)
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To: EveningStar; Allegra
Yea, but I bet they don't have the balls to take on the Bhagwan Shree Rajneesh.


32 posted on 04/06/2006 10:03:09 AM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: HairOfTheDog

Hopefully of course this will shut all the SP detractors up about Matt and Trey being 'chicken' from attacking Islam. It was pretty good, although I wish it wasn't two parts


33 posted on 04/06/2006 10:08:29 AM PDT by billbears (Deo Vindice)
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To: HairOfTheDog

True.


34 posted on 04/06/2006 10:09:35 AM PDT by EveningStar
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To: billbears

Well, at the very least, if they don't end up actually showing a Muhammad [again]... They can blame the pusses at Comedy Central ;~D


35 posted on 04/06/2006 10:13:06 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog (Hobbit Hole knives for soldiers! www.freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net)
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To: HairOfTheDog; EveningStar
Don't think for a moment that the Catholic League was also in their cross hairs with some of those comments. This was a brilliant episode.
36 posted on 04/06/2006 10:18:30 AM PDT by mnehring (http://abaraxas.blogspot.com)
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To: Oztrich Boy
Yeah, but when is South Park going to do a episode about Islam?

Here we go again.... not even mentioning the fact that they have.. Saying bluntly that the problem is they cannot have sex, J*** off, and they have sand in their ass isn't going after Islam?
37 posted on 04/06/2006 10:21:35 AM PDT by mnehring (http://abaraxas.blogspot.com)
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To: Volunteer
Respectfully, I must disagree with you. I think it is going to be revealed that the writers of "Family Guy" are all Scientologists.

I'll put my money on that they are crab people.

38 posted on 04/06/2006 10:22:46 AM PDT by mnehring (http://abaraxas.blogspot.com)
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To: mnehrling

bttt


39 posted on 04/06/2006 10:33:21 AM PDT by ConservativeMan55 (DON'T FIRE UNTIL YOU SEE THE WHITES OF THE CURTAINS THEY ARE WEARING ON THEIR HEADS !)
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To: HairOfTheDog

You can download it here

http://www.southparkx.net/episodes/1003-cartoon-wars

for those who didnt see it!


40 posted on 04/06/2006 10:43:57 AM PDT by hoosierboy
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