[N3WBI3]

I thought any of us who had PHB's would really appreciate this! Thanks to Shadowace for finding the story last week..

-- Follow up:

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/03/27/tuttle_email/

[N3WBI3]

ShadowAce found the raw story last week here It is one of the more amusing stories out there.. --

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[Golden Eagle]

That's what happens when open source kooks like those at CentOS try to explain their commie philosophy to red blooded Americans, it simply doesn't make sense. So then they try to smear him in foreign newspapers and hack his computers. Typical.

[SouthernBoyupNorth]

This guy from Tuttle is a complete moron.....
Had he explained this situation in calm logical and FRIENDLY fashion I am sure that the issue could have been resolved in a whole lot less time.

[ShadowAce]

In a follow-up from The Register, Jerry has written them a letter, containing the following:

Taylor declined to respond to this reporter's request for comment but did write to a member of El Reg's marketing team.

I do not follow instructions that show up when a website that I am not familiar with appears on my computer and I do not think anyone with experience would do so either. Once the Centos site appeared on four computers at one site I contacted our web service provider. The web service provider did not know what could cause the problem and had never heard of "CentOS". I then contacted the internet provider's local office and was told that they did nothing to cause the problem. I checked the building's server and found nothing relating to CentOS on the server. I was then left with only the web page email address to contact. I asked for the strange website to be removed because it blocked my City web site and I could not post public information. I only got help after threatening to contact the FBI.

Now I am being flooded with emails from CentOS users that after knowing the answer say the problem was simple. I think this is unjustified and would like for this to stop. Your website should provide useful information and be a credit to the IT world. I do not believe it should be used to incite the users. Your attention to this matter is greatly appreciated.

So stop, now. Please.

[zeugma]

I saw the actual trail of emails for this a couple of days ago. Reading through the thread was a complete riot. The guy never realized what a dolt he was.

 

[kenth]

"I am computer literate! I have 22 years in computer systems engineering and operation. Now, can you tell me how to remove 'your software' that you acknowledge you provided free of charge? I consider this 'hacking.'"


ROFL.

I believe he's been involved with computer systems for 22 years. I've seen a ton of people, especially info management types who have trouble turning on a workstation, much less actually doing any technical work.

[softwarecreator]

Man, and I thought I had a bad day or two.

[N3WBI3]

Ive just read that people are starting to use the term 'tuttle' to refer to an unreasonable support request...

[Leatherneck_MT]

The only thing that irritates me more than clueless users, are clueless Techs that they call in who insist that a problem is software instead of their network that they put together.

Happens daily in my office.

[frogjerk]

"I am computer literate! I have 22 years in computer systems engineering and operation. Now, can you tell me how to remove 'your software' that you acknowledge you provided free of charge? I consider this 'hacking.'"

22 years of computer systems engineering and this guy doesn't know what an Apache default page looks like? What a dummy!

[dennisw]

bttt

[Redcloak]

"I am computer literate!"

[EricT.]

Could one of you computer geniuses design a GE post filter, so I can read the interesting parts of these threads and skip the boring 'neener-neener open source suxx' Bravo Sierra? Troublemakers get their asses kicked in the real world, but they seem to be immune on the 'net.

[Xenalyte]

This thread contains one of the best flame wars EVER.

[birbear]

My ex sent the CentOS website that had the transcript on it last week. Neither of us are IT people and we cracked up laughing at the stupidty of the "City Mangler".

I then showed it to my friend who works in the IT department of the of the Finance Dept for the State of California. He said it was typical user mentality.

The media has us in such a heightened state of alertness of identity theft and hacking, that it's no wonder people jump to that conclusion when the usual screens don't appear when we expect them to.

"22 years of system experience" is absolutely meaningless. I have 23 years of experience with computers and I barely keep up with the information on the Open Source and Tech ping lists. I know enough to know I don't know everything. But this city administrator needs to be flamed early and often for his reactions.

Granted, the CentOS person did act like a typical IT jerk. He/she should have known that the user he was dealing with didn't have a clue and should have geared his responses down. I know too many IT people who use their "smarts" to intentionally talk over people's heads. Because they get a thrill out of it. If either of these two were level headed people the situation wouldn't have escalated as it had.

[birbear]

Looks like I can't send a messge to Jerry Taylor, the City Mangler.

Darn.

[N3WBI3]

[j_tull]

I would expect the holier than thou opens source type to have the minimal techical knowledge it takes to post an article without dead links and advertisements. Guess not.

[impatient]

You all might try this before hitting that old reply button:

sed '/<DIV CLASS="n2">/{ N;N;N;N;N;N;N;N;N;N;N; /Golden Eagle/d }' post.html

[Golden Eagle]

Report in their local newspaper. Rightfully refer to the idiots lampooning them as foreign geeks from Switzerland, Australia, England etc with too much time on their hands.

http://www.tuttletimes.com/siteSearch/apstorysection/local_story_088201244.html

"I'm not about to follow any instructions on an unknown web page" Taylor said. "That could put a virus on my system."

Mayor Paxton said that the city manager knows a lot more about computers than he does, and he trusts Taylor

"The city manager was doing everything he could to protect the website," Paxton said. "There was no profanity used, nothing vulgar used, just Jerry [Taylor] trying to find out what was going on. He was being aggressive and finding out what happened to the website."

"I was just frustrated," he said. "I've got a strange website coming up, and I don't know who caused it." Taylor said that he also did not regret threatening Hughes with FBI action, since he believes that was what prompted Hughes to start treating him seriously.

"After that, he called me Mr. Taylor," he said, "And he got me the information I needed."