Posted on 03/20/2006 1:01:21 PM PST by doc30
Normally, I don't post requests for help on issues, but there are a fair number of more knowlegeable animal lover Freepers than I. They may be interested and/or could offer some insight into 2 bills pending in FL.
Here are the Senate Summaries of these 2 bills coming before the Senate Agriculture Committee in FL and are to be voted on the 21st. Has anyone heard of these bills and does anyone have any idea what their impact will be?
Some have said that this will cripple the dog/cat breeders in FL and will include private, non-profit animal rescue groups as "pet dealers" and make them subject to licensing requirements. Such volunteer organizations are in no place to administer government regulations and they perform an important community function. It will also shut down home/hobby breeders. For those interested, here is a list of the committee members.
Bullard 850-487-5127
Argenziano 850-487-5017
Bennett 850-487-5078
Haridopolos 850-487-5056
Peaden 850-487-5000
Smith 850-487-5020
Bump, thanks for the ping HOTD.
Actually, if you will look very far, you will find that PETA is behind this stuff. If you think PETA is the way to go, so be it, however their goal is NOT responsible breeders, it is NO PETS.
susie
Many conformation people in my breed, go on to other titles after their dogs receive their championships.
There are hunting titles, obedience, and agility, just to name a few.
That's what 'hobby' breeders always say.
Got an unbiased, objective source for this assertion? Links?
Most breeders I know are very careful who gets their animals and are not into it for the money. Breeders like this are very lucky if they can break even.
Of course not. It's never you, or me. It's always the breeder hiding over there, behind that tree.
If there is only an estimated 20% compliance with county dog licensing, then how is this law going to stop the production of unwanted pets?
Because this law isn't aimed at the consumer. It's aimed at the producers themselves. If the laws says you will pay a license fee, that your facility will be inspected, and you will be fined if found to not be in compliance with the law, then that's the price you pay for doing business as a breeder.
If you don't like it, there's always the hobby of stamp-collecting.
Ridiculous. Read my 97 again. Please. The top paragraph too.
In fact, in order to encourage this the Golden Retriever Club of America started a versitily title that is eagerly sought by many *conformation* people. susie
Really, you're acknowledging that the problem exists by arguing that it's being corrected.
Don't tell me to do research... I'm not tellin' untruths.
Don't be so defensive if you ain't the problem. The problems DO exist.
I know... and good for them.
It sure does. That is why Darnright included me with the ping.
Darnright was adding on to what I said to you in http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1599812/posts?page=40#40
The AWA law I brought up is what Darnright elaborated on.
Right. And that's not the subject of this thread. Don't know it, didn't vouch for it.
I will get you the links and text after my kids' homework is done.
Current AWA laws doesn't allow kennel licenses to homes or homesteads. They have to be separate kennel facilities.
The PAWS law that is stalled at the federal level is being pushed through at the state levels to force compliance.
This is what we are seeing on this thread here.
These animal laws won't allow for x number of litters per year w/o a kennel license.
The litter is broad and not animal specific.
This will essentially wipe out homesteaders for being able to breed and sell working dogs.
It's pointless to discuss this with you. Your mind is closed, made up and don't bug you with facts. So, I'm done.
susie
It is relevant to the new licensing monies going through.
The licenses and breed restrictions are all components of PAWs.
I will get the links when I'm back at my desk.
I'm glad that Florida's got all the problems solved with illegal immigration, crime, hurricanes and other stuff so they can focus ALL their attention on this mission critical piece of legislature.
You haven't bugged me with a single fact. I've bugged you with some. :~D
I'll get my tinfoil hat ready :~D
I have seen all the flaws in the breeds that you mention, and then some. But I have also seen my own breed standard get 'adjusted' by AKC judges making a concerted effort to penalize certain physical & tempermental characteristics that have become excessive or undesireable. The interpretation of the breed standard does change over time. I guess you know that the breed ring is not the place to evaluate instinct -- trials are for that kinda thing. We trial our terriers to evaluate hunting instinct.
I have a big soft heart, as you might have noticed.
My first Golden was sent home from college by my oldest son who bought her 1/2 price from a girl who had brought 5 puppies back to Texas Tech from an ElPaso breeder and sold them around campus. Nobody wanted the female, even though she had AKC registration. (All the new dog "parents" were "macho" college football players, and they wanted only male dogs. My son talked me into taking her by giving me a whiney story about how he couldn't keep her, but he bought her to "save her" because the football players next door were feeding her tacos and beer! And besides, I needed a "watch dog" to protect me now that all my kids were out of the house. (Baloney!)
Naturally, this Golden was no watch dog. She would lick a burglar to death and then offer him a beer. The vet took one look at her and told me that I should have her spayed because there were already too many Goldens in the world. I hesitated because she had a really nice demeanor. Then she went into heat. I took her right in to be spayed at that point because I knew that I couldn't deal with it.
But, before she was spayed, she slipped on a hill on wet leaves in my yard and wrenched her shoulder when she was about 10 months old. She had to be confined to a kennel for a MONTH to heal. Then, when she was 5, she slipped on wet grass again on another hill and slipped a disc. After a 10 days at the Vet School and a lot of rehab we got her walking again and she led a fairly active life with no hunting and no jumping allowed until she died at 15 1/2. We devised indoor retrieving games to amuse her without stressing her spine.
The first 2 times she was in the vet, the x-ray machine happened to be broken so we could never get a picture of the hips to know if she really had a problem, so we just had her spayed because we felt that the chances that there was a deformity were probably pretty good, considering her background.
To add insult to injury, several years after she was spayed, the vet school took full x-rays when she had her spinal injury at age 5. They told me at that time that she had very well developed hips and sockets and would have been a good mom! Too late then!
My friend's dog (Tess) reminds me of how stiffly my old Terra used to walk near the end of her life, and Tess is still a pup. That is what worries me. Tess is already spayed, but my friend does not tolerate any dog that is less than perfect. I also trained with Tess's mother and I never liked the look of her either. Perhaps it is just my preference for Goldens over Labs.
That's what the breeders always say.
Got an unbiased, objective source for this assertion? Links?
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.