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Time, Science, and Spin. (Kennewick Man - or not?)
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Posted on 03/08/2006 3:09:40 PM PST by xcamel

OK, You pick: Depiction by a renowned forensic scientist,
or hideous, androgenous, mix-mash cartoon, pandering to the unrelated Northwest Natives?

Or..

IMHO: Time should be ashamed. (not that it would ever happen, mind you.)


TOPICS: History; Society
KEYWORDS: crevolist; ggg; gggscience; godsgravesglyphs; kennewick; kennewickman; meadowcroft; msm
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To: Salamander
"The Races of Europe" is by Carleton Coon, one of the more brillian paleoanthropologists of the last century.

The book is not banned, just scarce.

41 posted on 03/09/2006 10:47:26 AM PST by Coyoteman (I love the sound of beta decay in the morning!)
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To: Salamander

Thats a great way of recycling!
Pigs die, human eat pigs, human dies, pigs eat human, pigs die, human eat pigs..

wow its a beautifull vision on 'being one with nature'.
And it will solve all burial issues!

You can even make humans into doggy biscuits, or even sell whole mummified arms and legs for the dogs to fetch and chew on! (good for their teeth)


42 posted on 03/09/2006 11:11:31 AM PST by S0122017 (Coincidence is the fool's blindfold)
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To: Salamander
"Why was the Aztec Empire taken so quickly by the Europeans led by Cortez?"

I found this interesting.

Historical Review: Megadrought And Megadeath In 16th Century Mexico (Hemorragic Fever?)

"The epidemic of cocoliztli from 1545 to 1548 killed an estimated 5 million to 15 million people, or up to 80% of the native population of Mexico (Figure 1). In absolute and relative terms the 1545 epidemic was one of the worst demographic catastrophes in human history, approaching even the Black Death of bubonic plague, which killed approximately 25 million in western Europe from 1347 to 1351 or about 50% of the regional population."

43 posted on 03/09/2006 11:12:34 AM PST by blam
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To: Coyoteman; Salamander
I think you both are speaking of the book, Living Races Of Man, by Carlton Coon.

There are some for sale here.

44 posted on 03/09/2006 11:27:21 AM PST by blam
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To: Coyoteman; Salamander
Okay, my post #44 is wrong. here is The Races Of Europe by Carlton Coon.
45 posted on 03/09/2006 11:33:50 AM PST by blam
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To: blam

Coon also wrote "The Origin of Races"


46 posted on 03/09/2006 11:41:36 AM PST by Coyoteman (I love the sound of beta decay in the morning!)
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To: Salamander
As a kid, I was allowed the run of the farm...-except- for the hog pens. The adults fed them and we kids were not allowed to even hang over the fence to look at them lest we fall in.

Funny. When I was a kid, it was my job to feed/water the pigs. I was in the pen with them a lot. Had to really keep my eye on a couple of the sows though, though. They'd tag team me: one would get my attention while the other one would sneek up behind me and bite me on the butt. I'd turn to smack that one on the nose, and the other one would bite me on the butt. They thought it was great fun.

47 posted on 03/09/2006 11:45:27 AM PST by wyattearp (The best weapon to have in a gunfight is a shotgun - preferably from ambush.)
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To: wyattearp
"Had to really keep my eye on a couple of the sows though, though. "

I've seen hogs chase down and eat a live chicken. Not a pretty sight.

48 posted on 03/09/2006 11:48:52 AM PST by blam
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To: blam

We had a freezer that broke down, and we had to get rid of about 100 lbs of rather questionable pork. We cooked it through over a fire and threw it in the pig pen. They went from playful and friendly farm animals to extremely violent wild animals in the blink of an eye. I was horrified (9 years old). It took my Dad a week to convince me to get back in the pen to feed the pigs. I never looked at them the same after that.


49 posted on 03/09/2006 12:35:49 PM PST by wyattearp (The best weapon to have in a gunfight is a shotgun - preferably from ambush.)
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To: blam
The Samurai And The Ainu

I read something sometime back where a Japanese scientist was trying to prove the purity of the Japanese race vs the Ainu. What he found out is that the Ainu have not changed in a very, very, long time - while the Japanese are a mix of Ainu and Korean.

Needless to say, that didn't go over very well.

50 posted on 03/09/2006 12:40:26 PM PST by wyattearp (The best weapon to have in a gunfight is a shotgun - preferably from ambush.)
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To: Salamander

From one of my favorite movies, 'Snatch':

Brick Top: And when you got your six pieces, you gotta get rid of them, because it's no good leaving it in the deep freeze for your mum to discover, now is it? Then I hear the best thing to do is feed them to pigs. You got to starve the pigs for a few days, then the sight of a chopped-up body will look like curry to a ****head. You gotta shave the heads of your victims, and pull the teeth out for the sake of the piggies' digestion. You could do this afterwards, of course, but you don't want to go sievin' through pig ****, now do you? They will go through bone like butter. You need at least sixteen pigs to finish the job in one sitting, so be wary of any man who keeps a pig farm. They will go through a body that weighs 200 pounds in about eight minutes. That means that a single pig can consume two pounds of uncooked flesh every minute. Hence the expression, "as greedy as a pig".


51 posted on 03/09/2006 2:41:59 PM PST by gomaaa
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To: Coyoteman

Ooooh!
I got *me* one....;D

Way back when I researched the book, all sorts of wretched epithets were hurled at him.

The guy is simply honest and clinically impartial.

Nowadays it seems that's a crime.


52 posted on 03/09/2006 6:13:17 PM PST by Salamander (Cursed With Second Sight)
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To: S0122017

It'd work for me.
I think cemeteries are a waste of good land.

Burn me, bag me up and put me out with the trash or just leave me in the woods for the critters.

I won't 'be there' to care anyway.

Crows gotta eat same as worms....:]


53 posted on 03/09/2006 6:17:22 PM PST by Salamander (Cursed With Second Sight)
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To: blam

*shudder*


Hope that doesn't ever come back this way again.


54 posted on 03/09/2006 6:18:36 PM PST by Salamander (Cursed With Second Sight)
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To: Coyoteman; blam

It's one or the other.
I have it packed away upstairs with about a bazillion other anthropology/archaeology/ley line/dolmen/stone circle/neolithic cultures types of books.
When it's light tomorrow I'll see if I can dig it up and check the title for sure.
It's a honkin' *big* old leather bound thing.


55 posted on 03/09/2006 6:22:47 PM PST by Salamander (Cursed With Second Sight)
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To: Salamander
Way back when I researched the book, all sorts of wretched epithets were hurled at him [Carleton Coon].

The guy is simply honest and clinically impartial.

Nowadays it seems that's a crime.

In grad school my major professor knew, and was heavily influenced by, Carleton Coon, and so I was exposed to his writings.

Highly recommended. The style is first half of last century; lots of data and a good, reasoned approach but not PC.

56 posted on 03/09/2006 6:26:22 PM PST by Coyoteman (I love the sound of beta decay in the morning!)
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To: wyattearp

Did the sows have litters?
Ours usually did and only my grandfather would feed them.
He wouldn't let the grandkids or gramma near them.

The boars didn't get to live long enough to grow huge tusks since they became sausage every Thanksgiving day *but* I've been around old boars with 7" tusks.

They can be nasty.

Back when I was doing crafts for bikers the local stock sale guys would give me the tusks they'd cut off the hogs before they auctioned them.

I have some pretty cool ones stashed around here somewhere.

I used to have a nearly 2/3 of a circle tusk I kept on my keychain until I dropped the keychain and the tusk shattered on the concrete pavement.

Pigs are very, very clever.
You're fortunate that yours were apparently amiable, as well...:)


57 posted on 03/09/2006 6:31:26 PM PST by Salamander (Cursed With Second Sight)
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To: wyattearp

This guy understood the possibilities of pigs.....;]

58 posted on 03/09/2006 6:34:07 PM PST by Salamander (Cursed With Second Sight)
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To: gomaaa

The problem with using pigs is the large inedible bones.

Ya gotta have porcupines for that.


[hillbilly secrets]...;]


59 posted on 03/09/2006 6:37:41 PM PST by Salamander (Cursed With Second Sight)
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To: Coyoteman

He was even-handedly "non-PC" with all the racial types.

I wasn't offended by the Irish bits so I have no idea why anyone else was offended by their particular chapters.

I found it fascinating.

Recently it's become fashionable to postulate that the Neanderthals did not "die out" but [genetically speaking] walk among us today.

This guy said that a nearly a century ago....without the benefit of mitochondrial [or any type of, really] DNA testing.



60 posted on 03/09/2006 6:44:10 PM PST by Salamander (Cursed With Second Sight)
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