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If somebody knows how to ping the banglist, I'd appreciate it. Thanx.
1 posted on 03/05/2006 6:25:45 AM PST by LouAvul
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To: LouAvul; joesnuffy; Supernatural

I don't know how to ping the banglist. Maybe you could help.


2 posted on 03/05/2006 6:26:28 AM PST by LouAvul
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To: LouAvul

I don't know who runs the banglist either, but here is a little advice on the Glock.

You need a special holster for the Glock that covers the trigger guard completely. Don't just shove the Glock into a holster that you already have.

Here's what the Israelies do. They NEVER carry a weapon with a round chambered unless they are actually in combat. And they DON'T have any problems with accidental discharges.


3 posted on 03/05/2006 6:34:18 AM PST by Supernatural (Lay me doon in the caul caul groon, whaur afore monie mair huv gaun)
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To: LouAvul

The previous posters covered it:

1. Jacketed Ammo only.
2. No reloads.
3. The KB's tend to be a problem with the .40 cals.

Treat the Glock like you would a revolver. Finger off the trigger until you are ready to delete something.


8 posted on 03/05/2006 7:16:12 AM PST by Tallguy (When it's a bet between reality and delusion, bet on reality -- Mark Steyn)
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To: LouAvul

I am a Glock Armorer. I carry one on duty and off duty.

The Safety issue-All safeties are internal-It is designed to function like a revolver-pull and shoot. The internal safeties prevent it from being fired unless the trigger is pulled. There are a lot of horror stories concerning discharges that appear out of nowhwere. Later investigation shows the trigger was pulled somehow-putting it in the wrong holster, finger in the trigger, even putting it in the provided box with a round in the chamber (The old boxes had post in the middle that required the trigger to the rear for storage)

Following the four rules of weapon safety pretty much eliminates the above

KaBooms-the design leaves a small portion of the case head unsupported in the chamber. Not a problem with proper factory ammo-most KaBooms are found to be reloaded ammo. The ammo has brass that has been re-loaded (which means stressed/Stretched) up to 10 times (Often at the high end of the charge table). The repeated resizing weakens the brass, causing a point of failure. This is evident on the 40 cal for two reasons-one is the pressure generated by the round and the tolerances needed in the Overall length. Seating the bullet wrong can double pressures.

Avoid steel cased ammo like Wolf-it brings a whole nother set of problems to the KaBoom table

The other reason is the prevalence of the Glock and 40 cal in Law Enforcement-simple math-That many agencies/people shooting the same weapon/caliber combination will make the problem look worse than it is.

The above being said-I have over 10, 000 reloads through my Glocks (.40's) -no problems. After 3-5 loads-the brass lays-I don't pick it up. I always stay at the midrange of the charge table and the moderate pressures there.

Reloads do void the warranty-but if you look at other makes of weapon (Kimber etc.) they put it in the owners manual too-standard liability disclaimer these days.

The Glock is a solid, reliable weapon that requires the same care and safety sense of all other firearms. Lots of horror stories, but it started with a horror story. When it was introduced to the US market-It was the "Plastic Terrorist gun that could pass undetected through Airport metal detectors." A quick check of the facts showed how goofy that was.

Full disclosure-I enjoy shooting my Para Ord full size 1911 more


10 posted on 03/05/2006 7:29:59 AM PST by 5Madman2 (There is no such thing as an experienced suicide bomber)
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To: LouAvul

I forgot-Lead bullets(Non-Jacketed) clog the rifling, which causes presure build up-contributing to KaBooms. Cleaning built up lead out of any firearm isn't easy or pretty. Best to just stick to jacketed bullets

I don't know how to post links, but a Google search can get you to these sites

Glockmeister.com
GlockFAQ
Glocktalk

All have pages that address KaBooms and Safety


11 posted on 03/05/2006 7:39:16 AM PST by 5Madman2 (There is no such thing as an experienced suicide bomber)
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To: LouAvul
There are lots of other fine brands of European plastic-frame pistols that do not have the problems reported about the Glock. Word in the industry (I can't verify or attest) is that "frame torque" has caused negligent discharges. Even a properly holstered Glock can fire without trigger contact, according to some stories.

I would never support a loved one buying a Glock.

Of course, if you want to avoid those problems, and get a better grip angle from a glock, there is a new source of aluminum replacement frames.
12 posted on 03/05/2006 7:40:25 AM PST by Atlas Sneezed (Your FRiendly FReeper Patent Attorney)
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To: glock rocks

Bump for knowledgable Glock shooters.


15 posted on 03/05/2006 7:58:25 AM PST by Euro-American Scum (A poverty-stricken middle class must be a disarmed middle class)
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To: LouAvul; Euro-American Scum
I want to buy a Glock.

For plinking, the range, housegun, carry?

My summertime light carry is the G26 with MMC sights. I suggest you go to your local range/shop and try some different models out.

17 posted on 03/05/2006 8:45:17 AM PST by glock rocks (This site is best viewed with Crown Royal)
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To: Joe Brower
PING
18 posted on 03/05/2006 8:53:28 AM PST by ExSoldier (Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
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To: LouAvul
I've got a Glock 21 and enjoy shooting it. I also have a H&K USP Tactical which is my favorite of all my auto loading handguns.

The H&K is more expensive than the Glock but the extra money (about $400 more) is worth it IMHO.

19 posted on 03/05/2006 9:19:56 AM PST by cowboyway (My heroes have always been cowboys.)
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To: LouAvul
My carry piece (if I could carry in California and for when I get out-of-state licenses from Nevada and Utah) is a Glock 36. It only has +-300 rounds through it, but only had a couple FTF's during the first 100rd break-in. Just took a basic combat handgun course last week with it and it performed flawlessly and accurately.

I'll be putting quite a few more rounds through it in the coming months as the temperature gets more hospitable.

Next month, I'll be purchasing a G17 to shoot IDPA with. After that, I'll be getting a G21 for cold weather carry.

23 posted on 03/05/2006 11:42:57 AM PST by Tree of Liberty (requiescat in pace, President Reagan)
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To: LouAvul

My college roommate and I had a Glock. She was scared of it (yes, I know), so she kept the gun in her room and the clip in mine.

I hated it. It was a kiddie gun.


41 posted on 03/05/2006 7:50:42 PM PST by Xenalyte (Numba one in tha hood, G!)
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To: LouAvul

I own a first generation glock 17. I bought it used. I've put more than 10,000 rounds through it. I've experienced only one faliure. The magazine catch failed. Not a single other problem with it. Always use factory magazines.

As for the kabooms. I'm getting more and more skeptical of them as I've yet to find a credible eyewitness to one of them. I havn't even seen a picture of one of them on the internet. The only ones I've heard of were internet gun gurus that turn out to be full of crap on enough other subjects that they hace no credibility with me at all.


52 posted on 03/05/2006 8:52:33 PM PST by bad company ("Any damned fool can write a plan. It's the execution that gets you all screwed up." - James F. Hol.)
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To: LouAvul
If you are concerned about carrying a round in the pipe, try one of these. Saf-T-Blok


74 posted on 03/06/2006 10:20:55 AM PST by 300magnum (We know that if evil is not confronted, it gains in strength and audacity, and returns to strike us)
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