wear our the cats?

To: NicknamedBob; HKMk23

I thought I'd say hi before I get some sleep. :-)

3,961 posted on 03/21/2006 8:13:53 PM PST by tuliptree76 (Tagline Wanted: Now Accepting Applications.)

Hi, Doc. What's up?

I know, Same old same old. For me also. I'm writing.

Good Night to all.

3,962 posted on 03/21/2006 8:19:24 PM PST by NicknamedBob (If you die in your sleep, do you wake up refreshed in the Afterlife?)

To: NicknamedBob

Yep, it's the usual here, of course. Except, I'm going to go to bed early.

Good night!

3,963 posted on 03/21/2006 8:31:15 PM PST by tuliptree76 (Tagline Wanted: Now Accepting Applications.)

Hi there. We at 10,000 yet?

3,964 posted on 03/21/2006 8:55:32 PM PST by FriendDownUnder (Thanks to ALL our brave troops.)

To: RightWhale; All

something you said within the last couple of days spurred me to try to tie together my thoughts about wealth. here's the work-in-progress (from my biopage)
comments, critique, and suggestions welcome/solicited:

Economics, as a subject, isn't my bag. If I fail to use the jargon of that occult field, please forgive me (or, perhaps, applaud).

It seems to me that -in a Free society- all laws and understandings of trade, work, property, and economics must be based on a fundamental understanding of and respect for the value of TIME.

We trade our time (and effort, and skill, yes... but TIME most of all) in various ways to earn, maintain, utilize, and magnify our wealth. The old corporate mantra "Time Is Money" is, while crassly put, quite true. Put more broadly, time is the fund of wealth with which every human is born.

This fund is unique to each human being. Once spent, it cannot be replenished. Barring some miracle of medical technology, it cannot be usefully extended. It can, however, be very easily reduced. Slavery and murder are crimes of THEFT more than anything else: They rob a person of his most unique and precious resource - his time here on Earth - either by negating his will to use his time as he sees fit or by ending his time outright.

Both forms of theft rob a human being of his humanity.

As noted, we trade our time for other forms of wealth - resources, money, power, property, offspring. Many forms of wealth, each representing a substantial investment of irreplaceable time. In this way, the axiom "time equals wealth" can be inverted as "wealth equals time" - though it should be noted that while many forms of wealth can be traded for one another, none can be traded for more time (though surplus wealth can afford more freedom to utilise what time one has to better advantage - to capitalize on one's time). In this way: Money equals time; Property equals time; Resources equal time; Power equals time; Even (especially?) children equal time.

And TIME equals (portions of) a person's LIFE.
Again: Unique and non-refundable.

From this, it must be clear that property rights grow directly from the right to life: One owns that for which one has traded some of that most precious and irreplaceable of all resources - life.

In this light, it is certain that mandatory collectivism of all sorts have no respect for human life. Collectivism is built on a faulty premise: A commonality of all resources, from which individuals can collect at need and to which all surplus is given. This is nonsensical when dealing with the fundamental resource of time. Without this fundamental resource, all the other forms of wealth are impossible. Mandatory collectivism can be seen as a house of cards, pure bullshit -if you'll pardon the term- fobbed off upon the gullible by the idealist and the power-hungry. Collectivism's utter lack of regard for human life can, of course, be seen more directly in the domestic body-counts of collectivist regimes throughout the 20th Century. Over 100 million citizens murdered by their own governments in the name of "the common good."

Mandatory collectivism is, quite simply, theft-by-slavery behind a rouged smiley-face.

One who squanders another's time commits an act like in kind (if not degree) to homicide. One who steals another's property in fact steals a part of another's life, and is likewise akin to a murderer.

(to be expanded/continued)

3,965 posted on 03/21/2006 10:06:25 PM PST by King Prout (DOWN with the class-enemies at Google! LONG LIVE THE PEOPLE'S CUBE!)

I know what you mean, Ole Buddy.

I had to deal with three burglars just yesterday, sneaking in on the telephone line.

3,966 posted on 03/21/2006 10:24:15 PM PST by NicknamedBob (If you die in your sleep, do you wake up refreshed in the Afterlife?)

To: NicknamedBob

squirrels, or uncute-squirrels (rats)?

3,967 posted on 03/21/2006 10:25:42 PM PST by King Prout (DOWN with the class-enemies at Google! LONG LIVE THE PEOPLE'S CUBE!)

Even worse!

Solicitors.

3,968 posted on 03/21/2006 10:34:44 PM PST by NicknamedBob (If you die in your sleep, do you wake up refreshed in the Afterlife?)

To: NicknamedBob

OH-H-H...

I think it is time to switch back to my old tagline...

;)

3,969 posted on 03/21/2006 10:52:31 PM PST by King Prout (many complain I am overly literal. this would not be a problem if so many were not under-precise)

To: King Prout; NicknamedBob

You two are up awful late.

3,970 posted on 03/21/2006 11:23:03 PM PST by FriendDownUnder (My eyes glazeth over...)

To: FriendDownUnder; All

It ain't bar close---yet...

'Nite all.

3,971 posted on 03/21/2006 11:25:01 PM PST by rzeznikj at stout (This is a darkroom. Keep the door closed or you'll let all the dark out...)

To: FriendDownUnder

indeed I am, but not for much longer ;)

3,972 posted on 03/21/2006 11:25:14 PM PST by King Prout (many complain I am overly literal. this would not be a problem if so many were not under-precise)

To: rzeznikj at stout; King Prout; Monkey Face; sionnsar; Do not dub me shapka broham; All

It ain't bar close---yet...

This is the Undead Thread, where the bar never closes!

We're gonna take this baby over the top (10,000+) and soon! Who's with me?

(Or rather, who'll take the reins? It's almost my bedtime, after all.)

3,973 posted on 03/22/2006 3:58:31 AM PST by FriendDownUnder

To: FriendDownUnder

"You two are up awful late. "

Well, we were. I'm paying for it this morning.

Nothing worrisome, I was just up late writing. Good Morning to you this evening, though.

Sorry I didn't respond to your previous post. Hope all is going well for you, especially during the next few days!

3,974 posted on 03/22/2006 4:01:36 AM PST by NicknamedBob (If you die in your sleep, do you wake up refreshed in the Afterlife?)

To: NicknamedBob

Up late writing? Pray, ping me to it, if it appears here. And good morning to you!

3,975 posted on 03/22/2006 4:07:38 AM PST by FriendDownUnder

Good morning! I think I'll need to start counting Weight Watchers points. That always gets my attention. Getting some exercise other than walking up and down the stairs would be good, too!

Well, Vlad's crying again, 10 minutes after I left him to get a cup of coffee. He is cute, in spite of all the grumps ... he has three chins!

3,976 posted on 03/22/2006 4:13:25 AM PST by Tax-chick (If we couldn't laugh, we would all go insane.)

To: Tax-chick; Dead Corpse; King Prout; stephenjohnbanker; NicknamedBob; All

Howdy!

I'm alive and well. The modifications to my workout are bringing some very nice results. The sun is shining and the birds have broken forth in song.

What's up with all of you?

3,977 posted on 03/22/2006 4:34:21 AM PST by Alice au Wonderland (Renaissance people did not die out with the Renaissance.)

To: Alice au Wonderland

Hi, I wondered how you were! Vlad's hungry again!

3,978 posted on 03/22/2006 4:37:02 AM PST by Tax-chick (If we couldn't laugh, we would all go insane.)

To: Alice au Wonderland; Tax-chick; FriendDownUnder

"The sun is shining and the birds have broken forth in song."

Oh, great! Another morning person.

That's all we need. (Good Morning, Ladies!)

Now, I gotta go to work -- Where's the coffee?

3,979 posted on 03/22/2006 4:41:51 AM PST by NicknamedBob (If you die in your sleep, do you wake up refreshed in the Afterlife?)

To: NicknamedBob

*pours coffee*

There you are, one for you...

*stirs honey and chocolate into her warm milk*

... and one for me (at the other end of my day). Drink up!

3,980 posted on 03/22/2006 4:51:45 AM PST by FriendDownUnder

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