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It was kiss of death back then (Harry Hamlin says playing a gay character in 1982 ruined his career)
Miami Herald ^ | Fri, Feb. 10, 2006 | STEVE ROTHAUS

Posted on 02/21/2006 8:41:00 PM PST by presidio9

Actor Harry Hamlin insisted for 24 years that playing a gay writer who beds a married man in the film Making Love didn't hurt his blossoming movie career. Now, as Making Love is released on DVD (Fox, $15), Hamlin tells the truth: ``I can't say it more emphatically -- playing that part ended my feature-film career.'' ''You get an Oscar today,'' Hamlin said, referring to Brokeback Mountain stars Heath Ledger and Jake Gyllenhaal, both currently nominated for Academy Awards. After Making Love, Hamlin never again met with movie executives from a major studio. ''It was over,'' said Hamlin, who the year before Making Love had starred in 1981's big-budget Clash of the Titans. Studio heads asked, ''How can we put this guy in a movie when he has to be a romantic lead when he has [Making Love] behind him,'' said Hamlin, 55, who settled for a fruitful career in television. ``I ended up doing L.A. Law.'' Hamlin now appears as slimy Aaron Echolls on UPN's Veronica Mars. 20th Century Fox's Making Love, co-starring Michael Ontkean as the gay married doctor and Kate Jackson as his wife, bombed at the box office in '82. There was no nudity or explicit sex. But mainstream audiences weren't ready to watch two actors kiss each other full on the mouths. ''We did two takes of the scene. It was the first take that ended up in the movie,'' Hamlin recalled. ``I said, `Let's at least make it a gentle kiss, rather than a torrid mouth-wrenching kiss. We don't need to use any tongues because it was a first kiss.' ``All the [studio] brass came over to see the scene. [Method-actor Ontkean] put his hand behind my neck so he could hold my head. Suddenly his tongue was right down. It was major. I was mortified, but it was what was required for the scene. He was holding my head so I couldn't break away.'' It was at the movie's L.A. preview that Hamlin realized he'd made a bad career move. ''I was mortified. Certainly my friends were mortified,'' Hamlin said. ``When we walked out of the screening, I hung back and talked to a friend of mine. When I got to the parking lot, [the others] were all gone.'' Making Love screenwriter Barry Sandler had a similar experience. He took his aunts and uncles in Miami to see the film on opening day. ``We drive up for the 7 o'clock show and there was a huge line. Mostly straight couples. I said, `Wow! Do they have any idea what this movie is about?' ``Gradually, the men show a little more intimacy.'' Then, the kiss. ''When that happens, you would have thought a bomb went off in the theater. There were a couple of hundred people who stormed up the middle aisle,'' perhaps an exaggeration. Gay audiences had a different reaction. ''They burst into applause,'' Sandler said. Sandler, who co-wrote Making Love with future Pulitzer winner A. Scott Berg (Lindbergh), takes pride in the film. ''It was the first movie that came out of a major studio to deal with this in a positive way,'' Sandler said. Until Making Love, gay men and lesbians were shown as ''victims and suicides and killers and butts of jokes,'' said Sandler, now a a film professor at the University of Central Florida. Making Love depicted ''a positive image of a gay person,'' he said, ``and the gay person is presented as your son or your brother or your doctor or your husband.''


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1 posted on 02/21/2006 8:41:02 PM PST by presidio9
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Actor Harry Hamlin insisted for 24 years that playing a gay writer who beds a married man in the film Making Love didn't hurt his blossoming movie career.
Now, as Making Love is released on DVD (Fox, $15), Hamlin tells the truth:
``I can't say it more emphatically -- playing that part ended my feature-film career.''
''You get an Oscar today,'' Hamlin said, referring to Brokeback Mountain stars Heath Ledger and Jake Gyllenhaal, both currently nominated for Academy Awards.
After Making Love, Hamlin never again met with movie executives from a major studio. ''It was over,'' said Hamlin, who the year before Making Love had starred in 1981's big-budget Clash of the Titans.
Studio heads asked, ''How can we put this guy in a movie when he has to be a romantic lead when he has [Making Love] behind him,'' said Hamlin, 55, who settled for a fruitful career in television. ``I ended up doing L.A. Law.''
Hamlin now appears as slimy Aaron Echolls on UPN's Veronica Mars.
20th Century Fox's Making Love, co-starring Michael Ontkean as the gay married doctor and Kate Jackson as his wife, bombed at the box office in '82.
There was no nudity or explicit sex. But mainstream audiences weren't ready to watch two actors kiss each other full on the mouths.
''We did two takes of the scene. It was the first take that ended up in the movie,'' Hamlin recalled. ``I said, `Let's at least make it a gentle kiss, rather than a torrid mouth-wrenching kiss. We don't need to use any tongues because it was a first kiss.'
``All the [studio] brass came over to see the scene. [Method-actor Ontkean] put his hand behind my neck so he could hold my head. Suddenly his tongue was right down. It was major. I was mortified, but it was what was required for the scene. He was holding my head so I couldn't break away.''
It was at the movie's L.A. preview that Hamlin realized he'd made a bad career move.
''I was mortified. Certainly my friends were mortified,'' Hamlin said. ``When we walked out of the screening, I hung back and talked to a friend of mine. When I got to the parking lot, [the others] were all gone.''
Making Love screenwriter Barry Sandler had a similar experience. He took his aunts and uncles in Miami to see the film on opening day.
``We drive up for the 7 o'clock show and there was a huge line. Mostly straight couples. I said, `Wow! Do they have any idea what this movie is about?'
``Gradually, the men show a little more intimacy.''
Then, the kiss.
''When that happens, you would have thought a bomb went off in the theater. There were a couple of hundred people who stormed up the middle aisle,'' perhaps an exaggeration.
Gay audiences had a different reaction.
''They burst into applause,'' Sandler said.
Sandler, who co-wrote Making Love with future Pulitzer winner A. Scott Berg (Lindbergh), takes pride in the film.
''It was the first movie that came out of a major studio to deal with this in a positive way,'' Sandler said.
Until Making Love, gay men and lesbians were shown as ''victims and suicides and killers and butts of jokes,'' said Sandler, now a a film professor at the University of Central Florida.
Making Love depicted ''a positive image of a gay person,'' he said, ``and the gay person is presented as your son or your brother or your doctor or your husband.''


2 posted on 02/21/2006 8:41:32 PM PST by presidio9 ("Bird Flu" is the new Y2K Virus -Only without the inconvenient deadline.)
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Maybe that wasn't the reason. Maybe he just sucked at sucking.

I'll go stand in the corner now.

3 posted on 02/21/2006 8:42:56 PM PST by Hank Rearden (Never allow anyone who could only get a government "job" attempt to tell you how to run your life.)
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Being a lousy actor didn`t help Harry either


4 posted on 02/21/2006 8:43:36 PM PST by bybybill (If the Rats win, we are doomed)
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Being a lousy actor didn`t help Harry either

That was my thought as well. I didn't know he played a gay in some movie, but I do recall his terrible acting. Now he seems like a likable guy, and I hope he has done well in his life.

5 posted on 02/21/2006 8:45:51 PM PST by highlander_UW (I don't know what my future holds, but I know Who holds my future)
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To: presidio9

"Hello, I'm Harry Hamlin, the impossibly good-looking chisel-chinned '80s actor. Playing a gay man roooined my career."


6 posted on 02/21/2006 8:54:51 PM PST by pcottraux (It's pronounced "P. Coe-troe.")
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To: presidio9
Actor Harry Hamlin insisted for 24 years that playing a gay writer who beds a married man in the film Making Love didn't hurt his blossoming movie career.

I don't think prancing around as Perseus in the horrible Clash of the Titans helped him much, either...

I mean, who can forget the "cutting edge" animatronics of "Bubo"???

No, he's right...he was doing ok till he played a gay guy on screen...

7 posted on 02/21/2006 8:56:58 PM PST by JRios1968 (A DUmmie troll's motto: "Non cogito, ergo zot")
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Of course Al Pacino played one 7 years before that and he did ok afterwards.


8 posted on 02/21/2006 8:56:58 PM PST by Mr. Blonde (You know, Happy Time Harry, just being around you kinda makes me want to die.)
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To: pcottraux
I'm pretty sure there's a lot more to life than being really, really good looking. And I plan on finding out what that is. -Derek Zoolander
9 posted on 02/21/2006 8:58:58 PM PST by presidio9 ("Bird Flu" is the new Y2K Virus -Only without the inconvenient deadline.)
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I hope that Heath Ledger and Jake Gayem'all are happy with their performances in Brokeback. They are not going to get leading man roles any longer.


10 posted on 02/21/2006 8:59:47 PM PST by ikka
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To: Mr. Blonde

Don't confuse them with facts. This article is just hyping the new DVD release and trying to hop on the bareback bandwagon.


11 posted on 02/21/2006 9:00:32 PM PST by weegee ("...the left can only take power through deception" -W. Chambers, former mem of Communist Party USA)
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To: presidio9

``I ended up doing L.A. Law.''

OH! The humanity!


12 posted on 02/21/2006 9:00:59 PM PST by jocon307 (The Silent Majority - silent no longer)
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To: presidio9

I really don't think it's going to help the careers of Heath Ledger and Jake Gyllenhaal, either.


13 posted on 02/21/2006 9:01:02 PM PST by Tribune7
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To: presidio9

14 posted on 02/21/2006 9:01:14 PM PST by JRios1968 (A DUmmie troll's motto: "Non cogito, ergo zot")
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To: pcottraux

I don't think he is/was attractive at all.


15 posted on 02/21/2006 9:02:24 PM PST by rintense
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To: JRios1968

Clash of the Titans was good in a bad way. Or is that bad in a good way? I know that it was rather cornball despite Olivier, Smith, Meredith, and Andress. I love Ray Harryhausen, but his effects looked dated by 1981. Plus, they butchered the mythology and combined various tales that had nothing to do with Perseus.

Oh, and Harry Hamlin couldn't act.


16 posted on 02/21/2006 9:05:10 PM PST by MikeD (We live in a world where babies are like velveteen rabbits that only become real if they are loved.)
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To: weegee; Mr. Blonde

If I took some time, I could probably think of a dozen actors who saw their careers take off after playing homos, but Tom Hanks and Keeanu Reeves immediately spring to mind. Others include Robin Williams, Robert Downey Jr, Christopher Reeve, Patrick Swaze, and (say it ain't so) Tom Selleck. Brad Pitt reportedly can't wait to be gay.


17 posted on 02/21/2006 9:07:08 PM PST by presidio9 ("Bird Flu" is the new Y2K Virus -Only without the inconvenient deadline.)
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To: MikeD
Oh, and Harry Hamlin couldn't act.

Apparently he could portray a gay guy very well...

18 posted on 02/21/2006 9:07:28 PM PST by JRios1968 (A DUmmie troll's motto: "Non cogito, ergo zot")
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To: JRios1968

you guys are cracking me up.


19 posted on 02/21/2006 9:09:13 PM PST by Chuzzlewit
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you guys are cracking me up.

Glad to be of service!

20 posted on 02/21/2006 9:12:02 PM PST by JRios1968 (A DUmmie troll's motto: "Non cogito, ergo zot")
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