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S.F. Examines Power of Dog Droppings
yahoo ^ | 2-21-06

Posted on 02/21/2006 2:46:12 PM PST by LouAvul

SAN FRANCISCO - City officials are hoping to harness the power of dog doo. San Franciscans already recycle more than 60 percent of their garbage, but in this dog-friendly town, animal feces make up nearly 4 percent of residential waste, or 6,500 tons a year — nearly as much as disposable diapers, according to the city.

Within the next few months, Norcal Waste, a garbage hauling company that collects San Francisco's trash, will begin a pilot program under which it will use biodegradable bags and dog-waste carts to pick up droppings at a popular dog park.

The droppings will be tossed into a contraption called a methane digester, which is basically a tank in which bacteria feed on feces for weeks to create methane gas.

The methane could then be piped directly to a gas stove, heater, turbine or anything else powered by natural gas. It can also be used to generate electricity.

Methane digesters are nothing new. The technology was introduced in Europe about 20 years ago, and more than 600 farm-based digesters are in operation there. Nine are in use on California dairy farms, and chicken and hog farms elsewhere in the United States also use them.

Neither Norcal Waste spokesman Robert Reed nor Will Brinton, a Maine-based recycling and composting consultant, knew of anyone in the United States who is using the $1 million devices to convert pet waste to energy. But Brinton said some European countries process dog droppings along with food and yard waste.

"The main impediment is probably getting communities around the country the courage to collect it, to give value to something we'd rather not talk about," Brinton said. "San Francisco is probably the king of pet cities. This could be very important to them."

San Francisco — the city named after Saint Francis, patron saint of animals — has an estimated 240,000 dogs and cats.

Some experts believe methane digestion must become more attractive economically before it gets popular. Landfill space is relatively cheap, and natural gas and electricity also remain fairly inexpensive.

Reed points to San Francisco's groundbreaking food composting program, which began 10 years ago, as proof an unusual idea can work in this forward-thinking city. A Norcal Waste subsidiary collects 300 tons of food scraps per day from homes and restaurants and converts it into a rich fertilizer sold to vineyards and organic farms.

"Now, the city's asked us to look at dog waste specifically," Reed said.

Because animal waste contains disease causing germs, composting it at home with yard waste and food scraps can be unsafe.


TOPICS: Agriculture; Cheese, Moose, Sister; Chit/Chat; Pets/Animals; Science; Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: bm; california; crap; dogdoo; dogdroppings; dogs; droppings; feces; methane; purinademocratchow; sanfrancisco
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I don't know, but something about this story stinks.
1 posted on 02/21/2006 2:46:13 PM PST by LouAvul
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To: .cnI redruM; 537cant be wrong; 68 grunt; A. Patriot; A_Conservative_Chinese; ...

ping


2 posted on 02/21/2006 2:48:41 PM PST by EveningStar
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To: LouAvul

"composting it at home with yard waste and food scraps can be unsafe."
Well, duh.


3 posted on 02/21/2006 2:48:43 PM PST by dynachrome ("Where am I? Where am I going? Why am I in a handbasket?")
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To: LouAvul

they do possess a gravitational attraction to shoes. mine always seem to find it.


4 posted on 02/21/2006 2:49:59 PM PST by pipecorp (Let's have a CRUSADE! , the muslims never stopped. a 2010 useless reply odyssey.)
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To: LouAvul

"animal feces make up nearly 4 percent of residential waste, or 6,500 tons a year — nearly as much as disposable diapers"

Curious corrollation.

Presumably replacing children (that gays cannot have) with animals.


5 posted on 02/21/2006 2:51:38 PM PST by MeanWestTexan (Many at FR would respond to Christ "Darn right, I'll cast the first stone!")
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To: EveningStar

You would find this ES. LOL!
Can't wait to get the scoop on this poop.

Jo


6 posted on 02/21/2006 2:52:24 PM PST by Jo Nuvark ((Those who bless Israel will be blessed, those who curse Israel will be cursed. Gen 12:3))
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To: LouAvul

Hmm. There's a joke in there somewhere but it occurs to me that San Francisco is a good choice for this experiment. If you get my drift.


7 posted on 02/21/2006 2:52:39 PM PST by saganite (The poster formerly known as Arkie 2)
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To: LouAvul

Hmm. We have a lot of dogs, and for a while this had me excited. Home energy from dog poops!

But a million bucks for a methane digester is is a bit pricey. Just have to wait for the price to drop, I guess.


8 posted on 02/21/2006 2:53:07 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: EveningStar
City officials are hoping to harness the power of dog doo. San Franciscans already recycle more than 60 percent of their garbage, but in this dog-friendly town, animal feces make up nearly 4 percent of residential waste, or 6,500 tons a year...

That's a lot of crap!

;-)

9 posted on 02/21/2006 2:54:21 PM PST by Dashing Dasher ("Wrinkles should merely indicate where smiles have been." -- Mark Twain)
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To: EveningStar

Can someone say BROWN NOISE????


10 posted on 02/21/2006 2:56:28 PM PST by MikefromOhio (Brokeback Mountain: The ONLY western where the Cowboys GET IT IN THE END!!!)
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To: LouAvul
I get a kick out of watching multimillionaires in Marblehead walking their $1,000 dogs with a bag of poop in their free hand.

My dogs poop in their yard, I mulch it and feed it through the garden. Poop, green grass, dried maple leaves and wood ash make a fine mulch.

Should see my carrots and broccoli in November.
11 posted on 02/21/2006 3:10:38 PM PST by mmercier (nothing can be what it appears to be)
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To: LouAvul

In the spring, in deep snow country, the dog poop is the first thing to bloom.


12 posted on 02/21/2006 3:16:18 PM PST by wildehunt (I told them they'd need horses...)
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To: mmercier
I remember when Marblehead was a nice place, all of the millionaires lives on the Neck, hasn't been the same since Ben Martin died.
13 posted on 02/21/2006 3:19:59 PM PST by Little Bill (A 37%'r, a Red Spot on a Blue State, rats are evil.)
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To: LouAvul

SF has really gone to sh*t.


14 posted on 02/21/2006 3:23:19 PM PST by SIDENET ("IT'S A COOKBOOK!!!")
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To: pipecorp

Harry Truman supposedly said, "Never kick a fresh turd on a hot day."


15 posted on 02/21/2006 3:52:52 PM PST by EveningStar
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To: LouAvul

Lou, where do you dig up this s*** ?


16 posted on 02/21/2006 3:57:43 PM PST by TheOracleAtLilac
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To: TheOracleAtLilac; LouAvul

Maybe he just searched on "San Francisco." That should always turn up plenty of it. :)


17 posted on 02/21/2006 4:01:42 PM PST by EveningStar
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To: Xenalyte; Hap

I think Salty just found his calling.


19 posted on 02/21/2006 4:32:26 PM PST by Bacon Man (When the boogeyman goes to sleep every night, he checks his closet for Chuck Norris.)
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To: pec

The point is -- that's a disproportionately huge number of pets. The article even says SF is unusually dog friendly.

The cause is obvious; but it sounds like I hit a sore spot, sorry.


20 posted on 02/21/2006 4:54:11 PM PST by MeanWestTexan (Many at FR would respond to Christ "Darn right, I'll cast the first stone!")
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