Posted on 02/20/2006 12:43:45 PM PST by TChris
I'm beginning to look at buying a rifle. Everything I've read so far indicates that the .30-06 is a good, all-around caliber/cartridge.
I saw a Remington model 710 with a Bushnell scope for sale at a store the other day. Any comments on that model?
Other advice?
I had a PSG1 in '92 that i bought for $1000. I sold it after a month or so for $1500 and thought I made a lot of money. Wish I had it today....
That is from an article where a gut picks the best rifle cartrage of the 20th century, he picked the 30/06 but look what he said about the 308. here here to see the article and see what he said about the 30/06
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"oh wow that would be cool to have a psg1"
I never even fired it. Did play with it a lot though.
I wonder how fast you could push that Barnes 220 with a .308. It looks like it has about 2 square feet of bearing surface.
Amen to that. A few years back, I bought a next-to-new (only 30 rounds through it) Savage 110F in .30-06 for less than $200. That's probably the best money I have ever spent on a firearm. The Savage shoots one-hole groups with 150 gr. Norma 'Jaktmatch' ammo (bought on clearance from Midway) - so I know the rifle can shoot way better than I can (as can my Savage 10FP, which I bought later, 'brand-spanking-new,' chambered in .223; even with Federal 'plain-wrap' 50 gr. HP ammo [funny, given the relatively 'fast' twist rate], it shoots better than I can ;>)...
That being said (and though "beggers can't be choosers" - and I'm not complaining about the price ;>), I wish my Savage 110 had been chambered in .308 (I've built several FALs, and it would be nice to stick with a single cartidge). If there's any chance you'll eventually own another rifle chambered in .308 (FAL, M1A, H&K, etc.), you might want to consider a .308 Savage. But (as others have mentioned) if you might like to go with heavy bullets (I've got some 220 gr. RNSP waiting to try in my 110 ;>), you might be best sticking with the .30-06 (plus I think there are more of the .30-06s out there, if you're shopping the used market).
Good luck! As always, your mileage may vary, etc., etc., etc.
(Finally, and FWIW, I've tried the Remington 710 and was definitely NOT impressed. The Savage bolt action looks like a much better design to me... ;>)
And in some ways, the best .270 is a .25-06...
;>)
I saw a Remington model 710 with a Bushnell scope for sale at a store the other day. Any comments on that model?
If you'd like a top-quality, former U.S. military M1903A3 Springfield rifle, with 4-groove bbl, mil reconditioned with a 1-44 date on bbl, and with a Limon peep rear and front compitition sight installed, price $800.00, let me know. And since it's a private sale in the hands of another Wyoming resident, there's thereby no sales tax or paperwork required, and you can likely *try before you buy* to boot, if you arrange to take delivery at a local gun range.
FYI, he's in Douglas, WY.
You can also remove/replace the extractor, either for inspection or cleaning,or in the event of a failure, without any specialtools or armorer support, unlike the Remington 700.
Having been a Navy armorer working on Navy M86 and Marine M40A1/A2 sniper's rifles based on the Remington M700 action, I can tell you that this is NOT an inconsequential feature.
Other advice?
If you get it, remove the Bushnell scope and use it on a good-quality, accurate .22 rifle. Then use it for practice until you can find a decent, top-quality telescopic sight.
I would MUCH rather have a reliable rifle capable of 4-minute-of-angle accuracy fitted with a really good 'scope than a ½-MOA tackdriver fitted with a bargain store or mart-mart wekend sale special.
Yes. But whether intrinsic accuracy that can be demonstrated in a machine rest will be translated into practical accuracy when YOU fire it from YOUR shoulder, using YOUR eyes through the rifle's sights takes such info from being a primary consideration to being of less value. Add in variables resulting from ammunition selection or field conditions, and the results go right out the window. But the trick is to get long-term accuracy for a rifle. Many military match competitors are quite happy to have a rifle capable of superb accuracy for the duration of a single match; more common is one tuned to hold it's limits for a single year's season of match shooting.
Thanks for the heads-up on the rifle and all the good advice. :-)
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