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Posted on 02/16/2006 6:22:55 AM PST by Calpernia

Who benefits from GM crops? Monsanto and its corporate driven sponsors

The first significant planting of genetically modified (GM) crops took place in 1996. Ten years on, GM crops have failed to deliver the promises made by the biotech corporations. Moreover, the introduction of GM crops has increased the biotech industry’s control over the seed supply, most notably by Monsanto, the world’s biggest seed company. The last decade also shows that Monsanto has an undesirable influence over agriculture and food policies in many countries.

Who benefits from GM crops?

Rapid penetration is the result of aggressive biotech industry strategies. The increase in GM crops in a limited number of countries has largely been the result of the aggressive strategies of the biotech industry, particularly Monsanto, rather than the consequence of the benefits derived from the use of this technology. The GM crops commercialized to date are orientated towards maximizing benefits for the agribusiness and seed industries that control GM traits and the chemical products associated with GM crops.

GM crops have failed to tackle hunger and poverty. Most GM crops commercialized so far are destined for animal feed, not for food, and none have been introduced to address hunger and poverty issues. GM crops in developing countries have been grown mainly as export cash crops, sometimes at the expense of local food production. In Argentina, the second biggest producer of GM crops in the world, only 2% of the soya stays in the country. Other developing countries, such as Indonesia and India, have experienced substantial problems with Monsantos GM crops, often leaving farmers heavily indebted. Monsanto continues to introduce aggressive royalty initiatives in South America to increase its profits.

No benefits for consumers. GM crops are not cheaper, are not better in quality and do not present any benefits for consumers. This is now even recognized by some parts of the biotech industry. After 30 years of research and public money, only two modifications are grown commercially to any extent: herbicide tolerance and insect resistance.

No benefit for the environment. Monsanto’s Roundup Ready soybeans, the most extensively grown GM crop today, has led to an increase in herbicide use. Independent reports from the US shows that since 1996, GM corn, soybean and cotton have led to an increase in pesticide use of 122 million pounds (55 million Kg). The intensive cultivation of soybeans in South America is also fostering deforestation, and has been associated with a decline in soil fertility and soil erosion.

No benefit for the animal feed industry. Despite the fact that virtually all GM crops are destined as animal feed, the feed industry itself is not getting any benefit directly related to the genetic modification. In November 2005 the European feed industry (FEFAC), a major importer of soya for animal feed, declared that it “has no direct advantage from the presence of residues of herbicide resistant genes in the products they buy. The industry is therefore not prepared to pay for the use of this technology.”

Few crops, few countries, limited uses for limited markets

Few GM crops, most for animal feed and highly processed products. Over 95% of the GM crops commercialized today are GM soy, maize and cotton. GM soy consists in over 60% of the total area, maize over 20% and cotton the rest. The technology is limited to those three crops and two GM traits: herbicide tolerant and insect resistance. Most production of GM soya and maize in the world is destined to animal feed or heavily processed food products. Few countries. During the first seven years of cultivation, between 1996 and 2002, over 90% of the global surface of GM crops was concentrated in just three countries: the United States, Argentina and Canada. In 2004, more than 84% of GM crops were still concentrated in these same three countries, although the areas under cultivation in Brazil, China, and India has grown progressively over the past three years.

Corporate concentration

Three companies - Monsanto, Syngenta, and Bayer are responsible for virtually all of the commercially released GM crops in the world today. Monsanto is by large the top GM crop leader. The company is responsible for around 90% of all GM traits used around the world, and has now become the world’s biggest seed company.

Current situation in the world today: Monsanto claims and plans

Monsanto at the forefront of the worldwide GM crop push. In order to maximize profits from its GM seed business, Monsanto is at the forefront of the push for regulatory clearance for GM products in numerous countries. The company aims to aggressively displace conventional seeds with its patented GM varieties, particularly soy, corn, canola and cotton. It is striving for a world in which the only agriculture is genetically modified, and predicts that “full adoption of GM crops globally would result in income gains of US$210 billion per year within the next decade, with the largest potential gains occurring in developing countries at a rate of 2.1 percent gross national product per year”.

Monsanto has an undesirable influence over national and international governments. Monsanto has been in the driver’s seat when the US, Brazil and other countries developed GM legislation, resulting in industry-friendly policies. In Paraguay, India and Brazil Monsanto products were grown in areas where they were forbidden, paving the way for eventual legal authorisation. In Indonesia the company bribed government officials to obtain regulatory approval for its crops. Many governments have adopted the company’s claims that GM products are good for the environment and will contribute to the alleviation of poverty and hunger.

North America

Few crops and traits commercialized. Very limited range of GM crops grown. As of July 2005, the US Department of Agriculture (USDA) had approved 66 distinct biotech ‘events’ for commercial use, but since the 1990s only four crops with two traits have been grown to any significant extent. The number of permits granted for field trials of GM crops in the US climbed steadily from 1987 to 2002, but has since leveled off.

Monsanto and the biotech industry have designed the US regulatory system. The US regulatory system has been driven by biotech industry lawyers. As the former official responsible for agricultural biotechnology at the U.S. Food and Drug Administration affirmed: “in this area, the US government agencies have done exactly what big agribusiness has asked them to do and told them to do”.

Lack of results: failure to introduce new generation of GM crops

The biotech industry has failed to introduce new second generation GM crops with consumer benefits, and a third generation with pharmaceutical drugs and industrial compounds. After 30 years of research, only two modifications have made it to the marketplace on any scale: herbicide tolerance and insect resistance. The biotech industry continues to focus its development efforts on the same traits, crops and applications that it did in the 1990s, and animal feed is the exclusive or primary intended use of most next-generation GM crops.

The assault on US farmers Monsanto continues to harass and sue farmers for doing what they have been doing for centuries: saving seeds. Thousands of farmers have been investigated by Monsanto: some have settled, but others have landed in court, where they face a very unbalanced situation, as their legal resources are far less than those of the multi-billion dollar company.

Latin America

Taking over the main soy exporters. Monsanto has been aiming at taking over the largest producers and exporters of soy. The top producers besides the US are in South America: Argentina, Brazil, and Paraguay. Monsantos GM soy expanded rapidly in Argentina since 1996, but was not authorized for seven years in Brazil and Paraguay. Despite the lack of authorization, de facto contamination from illegal growing of Monsanto seeds led to the approval of GM soy in 2003/4.

- Monsanto taking over farmers rights: the battle over royalties. Monsanto is pursuing an aggressive strategy of obtaining royalties from the use of its GM soy. It has targeted the main world soy exporters and producers in South America, and whilst several temporary agreements have been reached in Paraguay, Uruguay and some Brazilian states, protests are growing. The Argentinean government opposes Monsantos proposals, accusing the company of abuse. In July 2005 the Seed Producers Association of Rio Grande do Sul State (Apassul) in Brazil rejected a royalty agreement initially agreed between Monsanto and the Brazilian Association of Seeds.

- Taking Argentina to European Courts for presence of Monsantos gene in soybean products. In June 2005 Monsanto filed lawsuits regarding the shipment of Argentinean soybean products to the Netherlands and Denmark, arguing a possible infringement of its patent rights on the Roundup Ready gene in Europe. Monsanto took samples of Argentinean soy meal as transport ships arrived at customs points, claiming property rights not just for the seeds themselves but for the products obtained from the seeds.

- Human rights violations. In Paraguay, soy cultivation - most of it GM - expels thousands of small farmers from their land each year. Human rights violations and forced evictions of peasant communities by soy landlords have been documented in recent years.

Asia

- Monsanto abandons commercialization of Bt cotton in Indonesia. In Indonesia, despite the promises of Monsanto and the propaganda over the benefits of Bt cotton, GM crops ended in failure. Many farmers complained about the claims of the superiority and performance of the genetically engineered cotton, and criticized Monsanto for its false promises. In 2003 Monsanto abandoned the commercialization of Bt cotton in the country.

- Monsanto used bribery. An investigation by the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission revealed that over US$700,000 in bribes was paid by Monsanto to at least 140 current and former Indonesian government officials and their family members between 1997 and 2002, financed through the improper accounting of Monsanto’s pesticides sales in Indonesia.

- The three first varieties of Bt cotton introduced in India have been banned in the State of Andhra Pradesh. In India Bt cotton was introduced amidst controversy and a contamination episode at the end of 2001, catalyzing its approval a few months later in 2002. In May 2005, Indias Genetic Engineering approval committee (GEAC) refused to renew the licenses for the sale in Andhra Pradesh of Monsantos first three GM cottonseed varieties authorized for commercialization in India. Farmers have complained about their poor performance.

- Royalty controversy ignited in Asia. In India on the 2nd January 2006 the Andhra Pradesh Government complained to the Monopolies and Restrictive Trade Practices Commission against Monsanto on what they considered an “exorbitant” royalty collection for Bt cotton. The Minister of Agriculture of Andhra Pradesh Mr. N. Raghuveera Reddy said that “The company Monsanto - is compelling cotton farmers at gun point to pay the extra amount, even as it collected lesser and variable royalties in other countries.”

Europe

- No new GM crops since 1998. No new GM crops have been authorized for planting in the EU in the last seven years. Despite its public image, Monsanto remains the leading applicant for GM foods and crops in Europe. In November 2005 Monsanto made predictions to its investors that it could take over all 90 million hectares of the continents maize production in the next 4 years.

- Commercial growing decreasing. The only country growing GM crops on any scale is Spain which has reduced the number of GM events permitted to just one. Future EU members, Bulgaria and Romania, have recently introduced policies that reduce the cultivation of GM crops in order to join the European Union.

- Moratorium enforced in Switzerland. In November 2005 Switzerland amended its constitution to prohibit the growing of GM crops for 5 years following the results of a clear-cut referendum.

- GM free regions and national bans. The number of countries banning GM products has increased in an attempt to stop the cultivation of a Monsanto GM maize. Similarly, the number of regions in Europe declaring themselves GM Free zones has grown to 165 with 4500 smaller areas declaring themselves also GM free.

- Europeans continue to reject GM foods. Public opinion in Europe remains steadily opposed to GM foods. European polls show that 70% of the public do not want to eat GM foods, and around 95% demand labeling in order to be able to make a choice. All major food manufacturers and retailers prohibit the use of GM ingredients in their products, in particular Monsantos GM soya.

Africa

- GM crops in Africa will not solve hunger. No GM crops have been introduced to address hunger. GM Bt cotton in South Africa Makhathini Flats in South Africa has been widely promoted by Monsanto as an African small farmer/GM success story, to raise them out of poverty. However, since 2000 the number of Bt cotton farmers in South Africa has gone down, many of them incurring losses and defaulting on their loans, raising strong questions about the impact of GMOs on poverty reduction - Monsanto-funded Kenyan sweet potato fails. GM sweet potato in Kenya was presented as a key GM crop to help African agriculture. However by the end of January 2004, and more than US$10 million later, the results of the trials were quietly published in Kenya, showing that none of the claims were true. The results revealed that the non-GM sweet potatoes had yielded significantly more than the GM variety.

- A moratorium in South Africa. In November 2005, despite having introduced GM crops in several hundred thousand hectares, the South African government communicated that it had placed a moratorium on import approvals, pending the outcome of a socio-economic study that the Department of Trade and Industry is now in the process of conducting.

The GMO crop hype: Unreliable monsanto and isaaa claims ISAAA misrepresents GM crop reality. The industry-sponsored International Service for Acquisition of Agribiotech Application’s annual reports (ISAAA), published at the beginning of every year since the late 1990s, have misrepresented the performance of GM crops. They have lauded the benefits that have accompanied the introduction of GM crops everywhere, and have ignored the negative impacts and new problems that have accompanied the introduction of GM crops.

ISAAA has inflated its figures. There is a lack of accurate statistical data in most countries about GM crop plantings such as in South Africa, the Philippines and Brazil. Analyses by several authors have found ISAAA data to be vastly inflated in countries such as South Africa, Asia and even the US.

Farmers used as propaganda pawns Monsanto and pro-biotech organizations are renowned for using so-called ‘small farmers’ from developing countries to promote the success of GM crops. One of the best known is TJ Buthelezi, who is promoted around the world as a poor farmer but in reality appears to be a wealthy South African farmer from the Makhatini Flats. Buthelezi even made an appearance at the launch of the US complaint against the European moratorium on GM foods at the World Trade Organization in 2003.


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How do you say No NAIS in Japanese?

Say no to the National Animal Identification System (NAIS)

The USDA and the agricultural business giants have been crafting a national animal identification scheme that threatens the freedoms of the citizens of the United States of America. The National Animal Identification System (NAIS) is the creation of various businesses, such as Monsanto Company, to monopolize American food production by using fear tactics to advance their agenda. The NAIS scheme was not created by any act of our government. NAIS is merely a presumptuous bureaucratic dictate.

So who is Monsanto Company?

In the late 1970s, Monsanto developed a longer-term strategy that would enable it to reduce its dependence on low-return petroleum-based products. A central feature of the strategy involved an increase in activity in the areas of nutritional chemicals and agricultural products and a move into the new area of health care. Biotechnology, particularly genetic engineering, was attractive since it affected all three of these areas. In 1979 Monsanto hired Dr. Howard A. Schneiderman, a biochemist from the University of California, Irvine, who became a senior Vice-President and Chief Scientist in charge of the Corporate Research and Development Division. It was Schneiderman who spearheaded the company's drive into biotechnology and genetic engineering. To facilitate its move into new areas, the company's R&D budget was increased considerably, from 2.6% of sales in 1979 to 5% in 1983 and 7% in 1985 (Monsanto, 1985). In 1985, 57% of R&D expenditure was in the area of life sciences. With 1985 sales of $6,747 million, the R&D budget for 1986 is around $470 million, implying a research budget of about $270 million in the life sciences.

Monsanto has followed a number of paths in its attempt to build its biotechnology-related capabilities. To begin with, Monsanto has established links with universities. Most important of these has been a link with the School of Medicine at Washington University in St. Louis. Monsanto provided the university with $23.5 million over five years in return for cooperative research projects in biotechnology. One benefit the company has received from this relationship is G.D. Searle & Co.'s development of atrial peptides, which control high blood pressure; these compounds were originally isolated and identified by Professor Philip Needleman, Head of the Pharmacology Department at the University. Monsanto has signed research agreements with a number of other universities, including Harvard, Oxford, and Rockefeller Universities. The company's university links were the subject of a congressional enquiry, headed by then Congressman Al Gore, which concluded that the relationship was not detrimental to the university system.

Intellectual Property and Research

The company's univeristy links also show an interesting intellectual property rights issue. Example, with the Monsanto-Washington University link is intended to facilitate cooperative work between company and university scientists working collaboratively on research projects. An eight-member advisory committee divided equally between Monsanto researchers and Washington University faculty makes the final decision regarding research funding. The agreement stipulates that 30% of the research will be basic research, while 70% will be research directly applicable to human disease. The United States Congress, Office of Technology Assessment Report on Biotechnology (1984) summarized the provisions regarding intellectual property rights: 'Washington University faculty members will be at liberty to publish results of any research done under the Monsanto funding. Monsanto will exercise the right of prior review of draft materials, because they may contain potentially patentable technical developments. If they do, Monsanto can request a delay of submission for publication or other public disclosure in order to begin the patent process'. Patent rights will be retained by Washington University but Monsanto will have exclusive rights to licences. If Monsanto chooses not to license a patent then the university will be free to issue the licence to others. Royalties will go to Washington University and not to the individual researchers, but will normally go to their laboratory.

The Database

Monsanto then gives the universities access to their vast corporate digital library initiatives. Monsanto's online solution was a pioneering effort that provides a vast knowledge sharing through the Internet that includes data and solutions for:

* a basic technology infrastructure including some or all of the following: email, Intranets, search engines, and groupware-like collaboration.
* One or more separate repositories for capturing and storing critical information, typically in the form of documents.
* Subject matter experts who format, catalog, and administer submissions to the repositories and act as researchers to aid in retrieval of needed information.

Monsanto and Biotechnology

Along with universities, Monsanto has been linking with biotechnology firms through acquisition and mergers, marketing agreements, contractual agreements to provide assets, and joint ventures.

One such company Monsanto has developed a relationship with is Mitsubishi Pharma Corp. Mitsubishi itself has an interesting corporate history. The smaller businesses that eventually merged into Mitsubishi Pharma Corporation are worth mentioning.

Green Cross Corporation was founded in 1950 as Japan's first commercial blood bank and became a diversified international pharmaceutical company producing ethical drugs for delivery or administration by doctors and healthcare workers. It included war criminals such as Kitano Masaji who performed human experimentation in Unit 731 of the Japanese military during World War II.

The company merged into Yoshitomi Pharmaceutical Co., Ltd On April 1, 1998, and renamed to Welfide Corporation on April 1, 2000. Finally Welfide Corp. and Mitsubishi-Tokyo Pharmaceutical Inc. were mereged to form Mitsubishi Pharma Corp. on October 1, 2001.

Throughout their history of company names, there follows a history of tainted blood scandals.

Japan's HIV-tainted blood scandal, known in Japanese as, yakugai eizu jiken, refers between one and two thousand cases in the 1980s in which Japanese patients with haemophilia contracted HIV via tainted blood products. The man that was found guilty of professional negligence resulting in these deaths, Matsushita Renzo, former head of the Ministry of Health and Welfare's Pharmaceutical Affairs Bureaum, became president of Green Cross and after serving his jail time.

Nanotechnology Micro-scale machines, such as DNA chips

The term "nanotechnology" was named in 1974 by Tokyo Science University professor Norio Taniguchi, author of "Nanotechnology: Integrated Processing Systems for Ultra-Precision and Ultra-Fine Products".

Before Bill Clinton left office, he authorized an 84% increase in the government's investment in nanotechnology research and development, National Nanotechnology Initiative (NNI) and made it a top priority.

Genes and the products of genetic engineering can be patented and owned. In 1980, two federal landmark decisions influenced the business side of biotechnology. A Supreme Court ruling allowed patents to be granted for genetically engineered organisms, processes of transforming cells and expressing proteins, and genes themselves. More recently, the Federal Circuit Court of Appeals reversed a Patent Office decision and ruled that DNA sequences that code for particular proteins are patentable. The Bayh Dole Act rules that all intellectual property resulting from federal funding resides in the university, rather than in the government. Unless, the univeristy link is linked to funding by a company, such as Monsanto.

This is what is fueling the drive for a major restructuring of the agriculture, food, and fiber industries. The Bio and now Nanotechnology sciences have presented fundamental problems for the protection of intellectual property rights. As the main OECD publication on patent protection has put it (Beier et al., 1985):
"In the past the patent system rested safely on a semantically clear [and] objectively defensible separation between (patentable) invention' and (non-patentable) 'discovery'. The recent development of biotechnology where some scientific discoveries could be turned into commercial products almost immediately has blurred this separation. This may have far-reaching legal and practical consequences."

Monsanto has sued hundreds of farmers for saving gene-altered seeds from each year's harvest to replant their fields the following season -- a practice farmers have followed for years. In fact, three-quarters of the world's growers are subsistence farmers who rely on saved seed. Monsanto claims "seed piracy" and said replanting the company's patented, gene-altered seeds violates a three-year-old company rule requiring that farmers buy the seeds fresh every year. Monsanto does not sell its engineered seeds in the traditional sense but "leases" them, in effect, for one time use only.

The Creation of National Animal Identification System

Monsanto and other agricultural business giants have successfully laid the ground work to implement a "lease" on all of the United State's agriculture. The NAIS plan requires two types of mandatory registration for everyone who owns even just one animal. First, owners must register their name, home address, telephone number and Global Positioning System (GPS) coordinates of their 'premise' in a vast corporate digital library. Secondly, in order for any animal to leave its 'premise', the owner will be required to obtain an ID number for it which will be kept in a vast corporate digital library and have the animal microchipped.

The NAIS requirements have yet been forthright as to whether DNA samples will be required in the future.

1 posted on 02/16/2006 6:22:58 AM PST by Calpernia
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USDA steps up efforts to track livestock

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National Property Owners

Full research sections on National Animal Identification System (NAIS)

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Healthy People 2010

Information on where the funding came from for NAIS

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Animal Tagging and SCHOOL LUNCHES???

Information on some of the partners on these posts

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Digital Angel and Microchip

Info on the technology that will be used for the tagging


2 posted on 02/16/2006 6:23:54 AM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: freepatriot32; prairiebreeze; tiamat; Ladysmith; devolve; vrwc0915

ping


3 posted on 02/16/2006 6:24:35 AM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Calpernia
Very early on in the first article I hit a major road bump ~ Argentina was referred to, inferentially, as a "developing country". That is, as a third-world hell-hole.

Since Argentina is actually a second-world, semi-industrialized, highly organized hell-hole, the clear implication was that the writer's purpose was PROPAGANDA, not FACT.

I read the rest of the article. There were other similar bits. Interestingly enough, the writer seems to be unaware of the fact that the seed developers are actually able to protect their patents simply by beeding a final "end stage"product that can be planted, but which cannot produce viable offspring.

That way, even if a farmer stores seeds they'll do him no good. This practice is, of course, REQUIRED with experimental crops.

It is, in fact, this particular element of GM technology that's been so widely denounced by farming interests worldwide. They want to take advantage of the improved crops, but they only want to pay for the seed once!

The science appears to have been so far over the head of the writer, he didn't bother doing anything more than denouncing GM foods.

4 posted on 02/16/2006 6:42:00 AM PST by muawiyah (-)
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To: muawiyah

At least someone is trying to talk about it.

Maybe if more people try to get the information out there, more articles with more appropriate research will be done.


5 posted on 02/16/2006 6:44:45 AM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Calpernia
BTW, the sweet potato thing is intriguing. Wonder why Monsanto even got into that business. After all, your typical sweet potato field actually has 800 different plant species (that look alike and grow similar tubers) growing in it.

Not sure focusing on a single plant in a mix like that is competitive.

6 posted on 02/16/2006 6:52:24 AM PST by muawiyah (-)
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Executive Order 13112 - Invasive Species Advisory Committee

What is the White List?

The White List (or "clean list") is proposed policy which will extend government and corporate control over the possession, importation and movement of anything that is alive - plants, animals, fungi, microorganisms, everything. Under current law, the government controls or prohibits a limited list of pest species - agricultural weeds, insect pests, dangerous pathogens, etc. Only species known to cause problems are controlled. Under the White List, the government will draw up a limited list of species it deems "safe", which will continue to be legal to possess, move or import. All other species, an estimated 99.75% of the Earth's biota will be considered "guilty until proven innocent", presumed harmful or dangerous, and will be prohibited.

(snip)

To offset the cost of testing, it has been proposed that a new form of life patent be granted, giving sole rights to the entire species and its genome to the corporation paying for the testing (it being unlikely that individuals will be able to afford such testing), and granting complete immunity to the patent holder of the species becomes a pest. This will place over 99% of the natural world off-limits - it is the greatest "theft of the commons" from humanity, and the greatest extension of government and corporate control over the natural world in history.

NOTE: Sitting on the Federal Invasive Species Advisory Committee

Dr. Nelroy E. Jackson
Monsanto Company
Agricultural Sector
400 South Ramona Avenue, Suite 212
Corona, CA 92879-1448

7 posted on 02/16/2006 7:00:27 AM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: muawiyah

Controlling all the food is though.


8 posted on 02/16/2006 7:01:07 AM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: muawiyah
seed developers are actually able to protect their patents simply by beeding a final "end stage"product that can be planted, but which cannot produce viable offspring.

Sounds like liberalism to me.

9 posted on 02/16/2006 7:23:57 AM PST by aimhigh
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To: aimhigh; All

btt


10 posted on 02/16/2006 9:03:47 AM PST by vrwc0915 ("Necessity is the plea of every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants,)
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To: muawiyah
second-world

The term "Second World" usually refers to the Communist Countries and isn't used much any more.

11 posted on 02/16/2006 3:27:04 PM PST by Mike Darancette (Condimaniac)
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To: Calpernia
Who benefits from GM crops?

Hungry people?

12 posted on 02/16/2006 3:29:18 PM PST by Mike Darancette (Condimaniac)
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To: Mike Darancette

No, Second World usually referred to semi-industrialized countries with a small but growing middle-class. Good examples are Argentina, Mexico, Costa Rica, FYR, and the nicer sections of Big China (such as Hong Kong, Singapore, Canton).


13 posted on 02/16/2006 6:04:19 PM PST by muawiyah (-)
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To: muawiyah

Second World, From Wikipedia.

14 posted on 02/16/2006 7:21:23 PM PST by Mike Darancette (Condimaniac)
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To: Calpernia

bookmark for later printing.


15 posted on 02/16/2006 7:24:54 PM PST by IrishCatholic (No local communist or socialist party chapter? Join the Democrats, it's the same thing.)
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To: Mike Darancette
Wikipedia is financed and operated by an extremely leftwing group.

They are seeking to take control of terminology.

The term "second-world" was originated by writers at USNews&WorldReport 40 years ago, and it was applied to nations a cut above the "third world", yet not as fully industrialized as the "first world".

Be very suspicious of Wikipedia in the future.

16 posted on 02/16/2006 7:26:40 PM PST by muawiyah (-)
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Be very suspicious of Wikipedia in the future.

They are right in this case.

In 1952 Alfred Sauvy, a French demographer, coined the term Third World which he described as the people of the world that are "unknown, exploited, and scorned." In pre-revolutionary France, the first two estates were the nobility and the clergy; everybody else was the third estate. He joked that the capitalist world (First World) compared with the nobility and the communist world (Second World) with the clergy. The First World consists of wealthy capitalist, formerly industrial, countries and the Second World of the former communist and industrial countries. Third World countries are all the other countries and they have always included capitalist (e.g., Brazil) and communist (e.g., Cuba) countries, and very rich ..... http://www.uwec.edu/geography/Ivogeler/w111/3world.htm

17 posted on 02/16/2006 8:15:00 PM PST by Mike Darancette (Condimaniac)
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To: Mike Darancette
However, Argentina and Mexico are NOT third-world, and haven't been for a very long time.

USNews usage was more common, and you definitely could mix many of the formerly Communist states into the same category as Argentina and Mexico, although other Communist states were necessarily third-world hell-holes.

There's even a term "fourth world" that refers to hopelessly impoverished, or even "failed" states. Examples are Haiti, Bengla Desh, Eritrea, etc.

Wikipedia continues to be untrustworthy.

18 posted on 02/16/2006 8:32:36 PM PST by muawiyah (-)
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To: muawiyah
Wikipedia continues to be untrustworthy.

And you continue to be wrong.

Sec'ond World'

(sometimes l.c.) 1. the world's industrialized nations other than the U.S. and the U.S.S.R.
2. the Communist and socialist nations of the world. Cf. First World, Third World, Fourth World.

Random House Unabridged Dictionary, Copyright © 1997, by Random House, Inc., on Infoplease

http://www.factmonster.com/ipd/A0642752.html

I've given three references Wikipedia, Univ of WI and Random House Dictionary that all agree the "second world" refers to the Communist States.

Please show me references that show otherwise.

19 posted on 02/16/2006 9:59:56 PM PST by Mike Darancette (Condimaniac)
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To: Mike Darancette
It's simple ~ you are reading the definitions IN ERROR.

In each case the responsible member of the nomenklatura makes sure that ALL the Communist states are grouped with mere "industrialized" states.

Did you miss that part? The first-world states then become the "post-industrial" states ~ and they survive on Capitalist enterprise.

So, how is it that you are a Capitalist and you have no industry? Well, the answer, to a Marxist, is very easy ~ you rob the "industrial" and "Communist" states.

Wikipedia's managers make sure that each and every entry is eventually brought into conformance with Marxist doctrines and definitions.

Random House has bought into this definition most likely because no one took a critical look at it before.

So, not being a Marxist, I do not accept the idea that I must use the term "second world" in the same manner that they do.

20 posted on 02/17/2006 12:15:30 PM PST by muawiyah (-)
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