Posted on 02/08/2006 7:32:44 PM PST by Bender2
Channel 4 brings you the results of the 100 Greatest War Films of all time, as voted for you.
1. Saving Private Ryan, 1998 The first 20 minutes of Saving Private Ryan is a visual assault, acclaimed as one of cinema's most accurate realisations of warfare. Capt John Miller (Tom Hanks) is among the US troops storming Omaha Beach on D-Day. Thereafter, you follow this everyman soldier on a humanitarian military mission to rescue the surviving brother of three soldiers killed in the same week. Spielberg crafts a shocking and moving illustration of the Second World War.
2. Apocalypse Now, 1979 Francis Ford Coppola's epic hallucination of the Vietnam War, in which Martin Sheen journeys through Vietnam and Cambodia to terminate a flipped-out renegade US colonel played by Marlon Brando. The shoot was notoriously troubled, but the result is a war movie unlike any other: a spectacular opera, a straightforward plot blown up by rampant imagination, and a deft comment on America's Vietnam folly.
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Apocalypse Now was written by NRA board member and registered Republican John Milius. It is based on the novel "Hearts of Darkness" by Joseph Conrad. The movie is about Nihilism and the dark side of man. It has NOTHING to do with Vietnam other than the scenery.
Okay, how is "Birth of a Nation" and "All Quiet on the Western Front"?
***Of course, I haven't seen Brokebutt Mountain yet...***
***That's NOT a WAR MOVIE***
I think Brokebutt could be classified as a CULTURE WAR movie, don't you?
Most of us kinda pooh-hooed Star Wars as a war film cause it was Sci-Fi. So...
we decided to let Leela and James T work it out and make a determination...
Okay, they are fine and I guess we need to add King Vidor's The Big Parade (1925). But, we are not listening to the Star Trek cast anymore...
They want to add all the 3 Stooges' movies...
It seems that Breaker Morant is moving up everyones list.
Ya know, Normy, they are going make a sequel to Breaker Morant with Brad Pitt. He wants to make a gay movie since they are so hip in Hollywood right now, so it is being called Brokeback Morant...
What's with this 'Rule 69' I hear Brad shouting?
He played him again in the "Desert Rats" starring Richard Burton [about 9th Australian ID at Tobruk]. Don't know of ant others.
To Hell and back. Audey Murphy story
I've never gotten to see the whole thing I always find it about halfway thru. Would love to see the beginning.
Worth it just for the line "Damned Fuzzywuzzies"
Yeah,but Heydrich had been a signals officer in the German Navy who was cashiered for conduct unbecoming [knocking up one woman, whose father did a lot of shipbuilding for the Kriegsmarine, refusing to break his engagement to Lina Von Osten, his enentual wife, so he could marry the first woman, and laying the blame of that woman at his court of honor]. Heydrich was a womanizer, but there's no evidence he was a sexual sadist.
Plus, the author had an abundance of Waffen SS officers who were "hard men" to model Tanz on. And although none of them fit the profile, there was a plethora of Army officers who transferred to the Waffen SS: Paul Hausser, Felix Steiner, Willi Bittrich [with a stop in the Luftwaffe], Dietrich's Chief of Staff in the Bulge [forget his name]. I even think Walter Nehring may have been transferred for a while, without volunteering. So I don't think Heydrich, who spent his SS career in the Security Service was the model.
Re: He played him again in the "Desert Rats" starring Richard Burton [about 9th Australian ID at Tobruk]. Don't know of ant others.
We have a semi-winner!
The complete answer is The Desert Fox: The Story of Rommel (1951) and The Desert Rats (1953). BTW Mason spoke in English throughout 'Fox' yet all his dialog in 'Rats' was in German...
Guess he couldn't make up his mind... Typical Kraut!
Consider yourself dead already. Put it behind you. Fear is normal, but we have a job to do
But, then Peck's original premise to his troops is shattered when he turns into a vegetative state until the planes come home, just like the previous commander. And then I think he gets relieved of command at the end for "stress". Obviously, movies are movies to entertain. And yes, he is a good actor especially when he was going to shove that knife into the antichrist. BUT, with that said, good leadership movies are re-enforcers, like We Were Solders, with Mel Gibson. A commander doing a job, not because he likes it, but doing it well anyway, and showing how you succeed.
A better example of leadership, and it is not a military move but more reflective of today's issues is Dirty Harry. Here is Harry Callahan (The Conservative Consciousness of the U.S., battling the punks (Al queda and the other roaches) and we have his boss and city council (the U.N., EU,) criticizing his every move as he melts out ultimate justice. Not because it is an innate behavior of his to want to sociopathically kill everything, but because society is upside down (muslims rioting over stupid cartoons), and there is no way out except through the barrel of a .44 cal weapon (GWOT).
It wasn't a feature film, but "Band of Brothers" was the best primer on good leadership and bad leadership I've ever seen.
The grandfather in question was one Gustav Robert Suess, who was the SECOND husband of Heydrich's paternal grandmother, and not in the Heydrich family line of descent. The matter was investigated at the instigation of Greogor Strasser, and it turned out Herr Suess was not Jewish, either. Source "Reinhard Heydrich: A Biography", by Guenther Deschner, pp61-62.
Actually its "Rule 68". You do me and I owe you 1! My GF hates that joke.
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