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Super Bowl: Picture Proof of Big Ben's TD
Fox Sports Pittsburgh ^ | February 7, 2006

Posted on 02/08/2006 5:18:46 AM PST by mcg2000



TOPICS: Sports
KEYWORDS: blurryinconclusive; nfl; pittsburgh; seahawks; seattle; steelers; superbowl; touchdown; whocares
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To: Skooz
I posted a direct quote for a sourced story..........

Here's another one (from Seattle) Link

Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger told David Letterman on the "Late Show" Monday that he didn't think he scored on a disputed 1-yard draw in the second quarter of the Super Bowl.

Roethlisberger dived for the goal line and was met by Seattle linebacker D.D. Lewis. The head linesman hesitated before signaling touchdown, and referee Bill Leavy did not overturn it on replay review. The score gave the Steelers a 7-3 lead.

"I told Coach, 'I don't think I got in,' " Roethlisberger told Letterman. "But we were getting ready to go for it on fourth down anyway, and I would have run it again. So we would have found a way to get in."

Any other evidence necessary or are you just going to ignore sources for what you heard again?

261 posted on 02/08/2006 12:03:16 PM PST by Wyatt's Torch
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To: Wyatt's Torch

I read it. I saw it on Letterman. I am agreeing with Ben.


262 posted on 02/08/2006 12:03:53 PM PST by Skooz (Chastity prays for me, piety sings............Modesty hides my thighs in her wings......)
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To: Skooz
I told Coach, 'I don't think I got in'

I saw the video on Letterman. Ben stated that he did not get in. I agree with him. If you have any quotes that he has since retracted what he said on Letterman, let them be forthcoming.

He doesn't need to "retract" anything. He is relaying his conversation that took place while the call was being reviewed. He was in the middle of the play, with perhaps the worst view of anyone in the stadium.

He is not saying here that he now believes it is not a TD. He is saying that initially he doubted it.

If you can't tell the difference, I can't help you.

SD

263 posted on 02/08/2006 12:06:42 PM PST by SoothingDave
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To: SoothingDave

Oh, man.

If you want to split the hairs to the point of his saying "I don't think I got in" does not mean "I don't think I got in," I can't help you.

Regardless of what he said or didn't say, the ball did not break the plane.

No big deal. They would almost certainly have got a TD on the next play. Seattle made too many mistakes and wouldn;t have won, anyway.


264 posted on 02/08/2006 12:10:15 PM PST by Skooz (Chastity prays for me, piety sings............Modesty hides my thighs in her wings......)
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To: Skooz
Oh, man. If you want to split the hairs to the point of his saying "I don't think I got in" does not mean "I don't think I got in," I can't help you.

Try reading it in the context of the story he is relating.

Regardless of what he said or didn't say, the ball did not break the plane.

There is no good evidence one way or another. The play stands as called.

No big deal. They would almost certainly have got a TD on the next play. Seattle made too many mistakes and wouldn;t have won, anyway.

Now that is true.

SD

265 posted on 02/08/2006 12:14:55 PM PST by SoothingDave
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To: SoothingDave

As a Chiefs fan, I had no dog in that hunt. I was rooting for Pittsburgh because I like Bill Cowher. He was the best DC the Chiefs have ever had, and I was sorry to see him go. He's a great coach and he deserved a SB win. I'm glad he got a ring.

And, no, it is in no way tainted by the inept officiating. It wasn't the officials who caused Stevens to drop four passes, or allowed Parker to rip off a 75 yard run, or fall for the fake reverse when everyone on planet earth -- except the Hawks -- knew it was coming.

The officiating was bad, but it did not decide the game.


266 posted on 02/08/2006 12:19:19 PM PST by Skooz (Chastity prays for me, piety sings............Modesty hides my thighs in her wings......)
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To: Skooz

"But Ben didn't get in. He has even said so."

You are taking his remark out of context. Picture yourself, going for a touchdown, with guys coming at you from all sides. Your head is tucked, you're "flying" through the air, bodies are under you so you can't see the white chalk of the goal line, but the ball clears the plane. The ref sees it, the fans see it, pictures prove it. You made a touchdown! You come away and say, "Wow, I didn't think I got in." But you really did.

Then some sorehead Seattle fans keep quoting you saying that you didn't think you got in. How sad it would be. Wouldn't it?


267 posted on 02/08/2006 12:30:41 PM PST by toldyou
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To: toldyou

Not to mention, it's best to be conservative in this case. Assume the worst: "I didn't get in" and start preparing for 4th down, so that you're not rushing once the call is made one way or another.


268 posted on 02/08/2006 12:34:55 PM PST by kevkrom ("...no one has ever successfully waged a war against stupidity" - Orson Scott Card)
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To: kevkrom

True.


269 posted on 02/08/2006 12:38:33 PM PST by toldyou
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To: TWfromTEXAS
I wonder if you are a smart ass to those who can get their hands on you?

TW, if you can't verbally spar on a talk board maybe you should go to the gym and beat on a punching bag that can't punch back.

I was not whining I was stating a fact. The Oilers were screwed by the refs many times when playing the Steelers.

You were stating an opinion, and as such it is subject to dispute. The facts are that the Steelers kicked the Oilers butts year in and year out because they were the better team.

Easy for you to keep posting crap from the safety of your keyboard, fight on STEALER.

You lost and you do not have the grace to accept it like a man. Ungracious losers are whiners.

stupid yankee

Yeah. You lost that one, too.

270 posted on 02/08/2006 12:43:58 PM PST by steelyourfaith
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To: toldyou

The ref saw it. Pittsburgh fans saw it. No one else did. Pictures don't prove it by a long shot.

He wasn't in. It wasn't a touchdown.


271 posted on 02/08/2006 12:45:47 PM PST by Skooz (Chastity prays for me, piety sings............Modesty hides my thighs in her wings......)
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To: HoustonCurmudgeon
steelyourfaith's answer to everyone who disagrees with him/her/it is to say they are whining, let it go.

Oh, no, did sonnyboy go running to Daddy for help?

You're wrong, HC, I don't call anybody a whiner other than losers who lack the grace to accept defeat with dignity.

I've told you before not to wallow in the mud with pigs, they like it.

As the apple obviously doesn't fall far from the tree it is apparent that it is too late for such advice, Daddy. ;-)

272 posted on 02/08/2006 12:51:58 PM PST by steelyourfaith
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To: steelyourfaith
He hasn't run to me for help since he was 12 and could bench press his weight.

I saw what he posted and if you ever saw a guy robbed it was Renfro in the corner of the end zone against Pittsburgh. Then again what do I know, but I was sitting with my dad, (Colts 48-49), Jess Hines (All American - Rice) and Weldon Humble (consensus All-American in 1946, Browns and Dallas) and they saw it also.

On the other hand why explain this to an ass?

273 posted on 02/08/2006 3:14:32 PM PST by HoustonCurmudgeon (Justice and "The Law" are not always the same thing.)
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To: steelyourfaith

Oh, and I'm not your daddy either.


274 posted on 02/08/2006 3:15:48 PM PST by HoustonCurmudgeon (Justice and "The Law" are not always the same thing.)
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To: HoustonCurmudgeon
He hasn't run to me for help since he was 12 and could bench press his weight.

CW is not merely a mental lightweight then?

I saw what he posted and if you ever saw a guy robbed it was Renfro in the corner of the end zone against Pittsburgh. Then again what do I know, but I was sitting with my dad, (Colts 48-49), Jess Hines (All American - Rice) and Weldon Humble (consensus All-American in 1946, Browns and Dallas) and they saw it also.

Everybody who plays sports has lost at one time or another on questionable calls. If you're a man you don't cry about it for 30 years.

HC, the Baltimore Colts franchise was founded in 1953, so what "Colts 48-49" were you referring to? It's clear to see where Sonny gets his intellect.

On the other hand why explain this to an ass?

Now that hurt. ;-) I think I should have quit when you called me a pig.

Oh, and I'm not your daddy either.

Yeah, there can be no doubt about that.


275 posted on 02/08/2006 4:09:07 PM PST by steelyourfaith
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To: steelyourfaith
HC, the Baltimore Colts franchise was founded in 1953, so what "Colts 48-49" were you referring to? It's clear to see where Sonny gets his intellect.

Dear dumb ass, the Colts came to the NFL in 53. Y.A. Tittle was my fathers roommate in 48 and 49 BTW.

276 posted on 02/08/2006 4:17:06 PM PST by HoustonCurmudgeon (Justice and "The Law" are not always the same thing.)
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To: HoustonCurmudgeon

So, you stipulate that the Colts were founded in 1953, yet you also claim that your Daddy (Colts 48-49), was roommate with Y.A. Tittle in 48 and 49, presumably also with the Baltimore Colts, that didn't come into existence for another 4-5 years yet? I think we have the makings of a script for The Twilight Zone revival, if you know what I mean.


277 posted on 02/08/2006 5:22:08 PM PST by steelyourfaith
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To: kevkrom
The entire line is part of the end zone -- by rule.

Can you show me in the rule book where it says that?

The line along the back of the endzone is a boundry, the lines on the sides are boundries, and yet the goal line is not a boundry but part of the endzone.

That honestly doesn't make sense. The Goal line should be one more boundry that defines where the endzone ends and begins.
278 posted on 02/08/2006 5:35:13 PM PST by usmcobra (I'm a Marine on currently on inactive status awaiting an eternal change of duty station)
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To: usmcobra

Post 207.

It is crystal clear.


279 posted on 02/08/2006 5:36:19 PM PST by freedumb2003 (American troops cannot be defeated. American Politicians can.)
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To: steelyourfaith

You are both dense and tiresome, to which you may add a complete lack of football knowledge, then again we knew that. The Baltimore Colts were part of the All-American Football Conference which started in 1946 and were one of the three teams taken into the NFL later.


280 posted on 02/08/2006 5:47:49 PM PST by HoustonCurmudgeon (Justice and "The Law" are not always the same thing.)
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