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American Idol 2006--Live Thread I
FOX ^ | 1-16-06

Posted on 01/16/2006 4:00:11 AM PST by silent_jonny

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To: kevkrom
You just need to learn how to interpret "Paulaese". Then you only have to completely discount the comments to the contestants she wants to sleep with (or is sleeping with).

ROTFL. We sit there, listen to her comments, and then decide "Paula likes it", "Paula doesn't like it", or "Paula's biological clock is ticking".

I just assume that she and Randy must have a thing going...it's the only way to shut each other up.

That being said, and add the fact that she can't sing as well as any of them, I thoroughly enjoy Paula being there. She's over the top, yeah, but she does want those contestants to excel.

Stevie Nicks is really the only one I could see doing as well or better as the female judge. (mentioned it before)

14,661 posted on 03/24/2006 7:34:27 AM PST by grania ("Won't get fooled again")
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To: Always Right

No kidding. I'd never make it an hour with her. One of us would be dead....likely me from blood loss after ripping my ears off so I couldn't hear any more of her stupid comments.


14,662 posted on 03/24/2006 7:36:13 AM PST by Wyatt's Torch
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To: silent_jonny; stlnative; retrokitten
Thanks for the info about Fantasia. Everyone and their brother is looking for ways to cash in on Idol's popularity. Lifetime found a way to do it and also do one of the Left's favorite things: celebrate the totally disfunctional urban black lifestyle they helped create. Blacks have the hightest rates of unwed motherhood, abortions, grandmas raising their grandkids, high school dropouts, and all of the other pathologies associated with the urban "poor."

I should add all of the pathologies so "charmingly" celebrated by rap/hip-hop thugs, and by modern R&B performers like Fantasia -- and funded/promoted by mostly white limousine Leftist powers in the entertainment industry.

If Fantasia had really wanted to be inspiring, she would have put out one or more songs warning young girls to avoid the mistakes she made. Instead she puts out 'Baby Mama'. She's disgusting.

14,663 posted on 03/24/2006 7:40:34 AM PST by Wolfstar (There is no death, though eyes grow dim. There is no fear when I'm near to Him.)
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To: silent_jonny; EmilyGeiger
Jonny and Emily, this is from Billboard news this morning:

WALK' THE WALK: An 11-8 move for "Walk Away" (RCA) on Billboard's Adult Top 40 chart makes Kelly Clarkson the first artist in the 10-year history of this tally to score five top 10 hits from one album.

Clarkson's record-setting run began with "Breakaway," the title song from her second album. Featured in the movie "The Princess Diaries 2," "Breakaway" peaked at No. 2 in February 2005. Then, "Since U Been Gone" also peaked at No. 2, in May 2005. The third single, "Behind These Hazel Eyes," spent five weeks at No. 1, starting in August 2005. "Because of You" was next, and it peaked at No. 2 in December 2005.


14,664 posted on 03/24/2006 7:47:11 AM PST by Wolfstar (There is no death, though eyes grow dim. There is no fear when I'm near to Him.)
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To: PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain

Speaking of Country, I think the talent on Nashville Star is far superior to AI.

http://www.usanetwork.com/series/nashvillestar/


14,665 posted on 03/24/2006 8:06:48 AM PST by HalfFull
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To: retrokitten

If the rumors are true about Paula, and if they're looking for a "serious" replacement, what about Gladys Knight? I thought she did a wonderful job when she guest hosted in season 2 (she's the one who dubbed Ruben the "Velvet Teddy Bear). She's one of the few guest judges who actually took the job seriously and offered real critiques. Plus, she's had experience judging singing competitions with the short-lived "Idol Kids."

Just a thought.


14,666 posted on 03/24/2006 8:38:09 AM PST by SirLinksalot
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To: silent_jonny

http://theedge.bostonherald.com/tvNews/view.bg?articleid=132035

”Idol” fans accuse Daughtry of copying Live version of ‘Walk the Line’

By Associated Press
Friday, March 24, 2006 - Updated: 01:20 PM EST




“American Idol” chat rooms are buzzing over a controversy surrounding Chris Daughtry’s version of “I Walk the Line.”

Judges praised Daughtry for making the song his own when he sang it on the last episode. But some fans say the version was not his own, but ripped off from a version done by the band Live in 2001.

One fan posted a message saying “I just want to punch him in his bald head.”

Another message reads “This guy is a rip off. Judges are plain dumb.”

And a third message reads “Live singer Ed Kowalczyk called and said that he would like his vocal style” back.


14,667 posted on 03/24/2006 11:45:29 AM PST by SirLinksalot
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To: kevkrom; All
MISTAKE: I just assume that she and Randy must have a thing going...it's the only way to shut each other up.

Did you ever think one thing and type the other??? Well, duhhhhh.....this is what happened here. I meant to type: I JUST ASSUME SHE (ie: PAULA) AND SIMON MUST HAVE A THING GOING.

14,668 posted on 03/24/2006 12:51:24 PM PST by grania ("Won't get fooled again")
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To: SirLinksalot
I can find just as many comments (actually a ton more) from people who liked it and who do not feel this way.

This was not Chris' fault, it was what the Simon said to Chris, the blame should fall on Simon. I don't even think Chris got the chance to respond to Simon before they cut away to a commercial. I will have replay it on my TIVO, but it doesn't really matter to the truly committed fans that Chris has.

The negative stuff on the boards across the Internet is coming from people who don't like a certain contestants (it happens here, I even do it...) and OF COURSE the Media is going to play off of the negative comments.
14,669 posted on 03/24/2006 12:54:43 PM PST by stlnative
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To: SirLinksalot

If this was a rip off... then every song sang on Idol is a rip off from the original.

I say let them sing their own written music and we will see who wins.

I am so sick of the media!!!


14,670 posted on 03/24/2006 1:02:50 PM PST by stlnative
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To: SirLinksalot; silent_jonny; All

FROM CHRIS' AMERICAN IDOL BOARD ON FOX'S WEBSITE

Chris at the beginning of interview: I am doing “I walk the line” by Johnny Cash. It was written in 1955 and I think it was a very edgy song for its time.

Barry: Which song are you doing?

Chris: I walk the line by Johnny Cash.

Barry: Like I keep my eyes wide,

Chris: very different version, a very different version

Barry: Well good, let’s…, lets do it.

Back to Chris in interview
Chris: The lyrics have a lot of relevance to me, um because he wrote it for his wife at the time on how he was going to stay true to her even though he was touring the world.

Barry: Lets hear it first with the piano

Chris: As much as I respect Johnny Cash’s creativity, we are going to try something different tonight.

Barry: Chris knocked me out. Um that was um a, I mean I know ‘I walk the line ‘ just the way everybody else knows Johnny Cash’s version of “I walk the line”. I ‘v never heard this rendition of it.

Barry: Instead of the typical rock n roll half time, I was hearing that.

Back to Chris’s interview
Chris: Working with Barry was awesome. He just seemed like a really genuine guy and was really wanting to help us make sure that we arranged these songs the best we could, to make them current and bring the best out of a song that we probably normally wouldn’t do.

Singing-----

Barry: You don’t need me baby, you got it. Out a all of them, um Chris seems to have a real good handle on who he is and what is his strength.

Song

Judging:

Randy: Chris, how’d that feel man. How you feel about that?

Chris: Real good.

Randy: Youre always havin a good time on stage don’t you. (screaming from the audience) Wow…Let me say this, I don’t think it was the best vocals you’ve done since you’ve been on the show, but what I loved about this, is you took a song, that everyone knows, you put a different spin on it, made it an alternative record, that fit exactly who you are and I love every week that you know exactly who you are, and you don't veer from that path."

Paula: There are a few of you American Idols on stage that I wait for everyweek that I can’t wait to hear what you’re gonna sing and what your gonna do, you are so true to who you are and you don't ever abandon that, that's what so amazing about you Chris, you grow and you grow"

Simon: I agree with Randy, I don't think it was the best vocal we have heard from you so far, but I don't think it matters because there is an enormous difference between what you just did then which was to take a great song, make it your own version, it was completely the opposite to what I hated about Buckys’ version of O'Boy. And actually, I've got to tell ya you are the first artist that we've ever had on this show who's actually refused to compromise. And for that Bravo.

WERE DID CHRIS HAVE THE CHANCE TO RESPOND TO SIMON'S COMMENTS? (Chris only responded to Randy's first question)


14,671 posted on 03/24/2006 1:33:32 PM PST by stlnative
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To: stlnative

Chris could have mentioned it was Live's version when talking to Barry about doing it. Then everyone would have known, including the judges. But, he didn't. Or, if he did, it was cut out. Which is a bad thing to cut, if they did.


14,672 posted on 03/24/2006 2:20:11 PM PST by Netizen (I voted for Scott and Anthony, because I like the underdog singers the best. texasflower 04/20/2005)
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To: Netizen

It did not become an issue until Simon opened his mouth. Gee do you think Chris was expecting Simon to say what he did? He probably figured Simon knew about "Live's" version of the song. I mean this is Simon's production. Maybe Ryan should have kept his mouth shut to give Chris a chance to say something back to Simon before cutting away to a commercial.

I think even Barry knew about it as Chris probably told him. What did Barry say... I mean I know ‘I walk the line ‘ just the way everybody else knows Johnny Cash’s version of “I walk the line”. I‘ve never heard this rendition of it. The wording sounds like they cut a lot away from when Chris was with Barry. You know they had to spend more than few minutes together.

Chris should not be taking the heat over this.


14,673 posted on 03/24/2006 2:48:59 PM PST by stlnative
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To: grania

It made more sense the first way you wrote it.


14,674 posted on 03/24/2006 3:30:10 PM PST by Palladin ("Governor Lynn Swann."...it has a nice ring to it!)
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To: Netizen
(I had to go pull a cake out of the oven...)

There are so many possibilities here if people want to twist it around.

Maybe Simon said what he did on purpose?
Maybe he does not like Chris?
Maybe Simon "really" didn't like the idea that Chris was not willing to compromise and sing it like the original?

Simon is known to say unfair as well as overly positive things at times, he tries to influence voters to some degree with his comments.
I wouldn't put it past Simon to use a little reverse psychology on people. Simon may have set the bait and some folks are biting at it and trying to make Chris look bad.

Like I said before... if what Chris did is to be considered a rip-off of a Cash song that Live did a few years ago, then Live is a rip-off, and then every contestant on AI is ripping off the original singers of the songs.

All in all... Chris does not deserve the bad rap he is getting. Most of it is coming from people who don't like Chris' style and the media is playing off of it.
But this is not the first time something like this has happened.

Most reasonable people can see what happened here.

The more I think about it the more I think about how it will not really hurt Chris at all with his voters. I think Chris is level headed enough to brush this off and that he will be even stronger on the stage next week.

Chances are this misunderstanding will be brought up next week by Simon, Ryan, or Chris. (only by Chris if... he gets enough time in front of the cameras.)

Chris is ahead in this contest because the guy can sing. If he wins it is because he appeals to a much larger audience than the other contestants did.
14,675 posted on 03/24/2006 3:32:12 PM PST by stlnative
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To: stlnative
Barry: Chris knocked me out. Um that was um a, I mean I know ‘I walk the line ‘ just the way everybody else knows Johnny Cash’s version of “I walk the line”. I ‘v never heard this rendition of it.

Sounds like Barry hadn't heard Live's version of it. Either Chris didn't mention that it was Live's version, OR he did but it got cut out AND which would just add to AI's pimping for Chris, trying to make him look 'brilliant' jmo

14,676 posted on 03/24/2006 3:41:50 PM PST by Netizen (I voted for Scott and Anthony, because I like the underdog singers the best. texasflower 04/20/2005)
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To: stlnative
Like I said before... if what Chris did is to be considered a rip-off of a Cash song that Live did a few years ago, then Live is a rip-off, and then every contestant on AI is ripping off the original singers of the songs.

I guess that would depend on whether Live acknowledged that they were performing a Cash song. Someone should have acknoledged that Chris' song was an arangement done by Live. jmo

14,677 posted on 03/24/2006 3:45:21 PM PST by Netizen (I voted for Scott and Anthony, because I like the underdog singers the best. texasflower 04/20/2005)
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To: Netizen

Like I said this can get twisted around and around, again and again.

We will just have to wait until next week to see if someone says something about it. That someone should be SIMON and not Chris. (If Chris is given too much time in front of the camera, then again someone will say Chris is getting special treatment!...blah blah blah!)


14,678 posted on 03/24/2006 3:47:38 PM PST by stlnative
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To: silent_jonny

Is this why Paula has been so giddy lately?

Paula Abdul Has a New Man

She was spotted at a recent West Hollywood function with actor Tony Schiena.

Friday, March 24, 2006

American Idol judge Paula Abdul has bounced back on the dating scene a month after tearfully admitting to Dr. Phil McGraw on a TV special that she has trouble finding true love.

The singer was spotted at a West Hollywood boutique opening on Tuesday night hand-in-hand with handsome actor Tony Schiena.

The pair pulled up in a Jaguar and slipped inside for the opening of Australian designer Leona Edmiston's store, where they sipped pomegranate martinis and held hands.

According to sources at the party, at one point the actor stood behind the petite star and wrapped his arm around her.

Schiena, who is from South Africa, was a black belt world karate champ before turning to acting. He has appeared in CSI:NY and also had a small role in 2004's 'The Merchant of Venice.'

Abdul's representative says the two are "just friends," while Schiena's representative says her client's "friendship" with Abdul started a year ago, when they met socially.


14,679 posted on 03/24/2006 4:18:38 PM PST by Palladin ("Governor Lynn Swann."...it has a nice ring to it!)
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To: Palladin
Paula's new squeeze?


14,680 posted on 03/24/2006 4:22:00 PM PST by Palladin ("Governor Lynn Swann."...it has a nice ring to it!)
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