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American Idol 2006--Live Thread I
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Posted on 01/16/2006 4:00:11 AM PST by silent_jonny

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for Tammy

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“This thread is the most fun on FR and this season is almost over.....makes me sad. :-( ”

the next Idol is only seven months away… we can meet again in January…:)

“Great! That’s what I wanted to hear.”


This thread is dedicated to the one person who would have enjoyed it most

Tammy Gammon

She was a good influence here, but more than that, she was a good friend

If you had doubts, she would give encouragement

If you needed to talk, she would listen

There wasn’t anything that she wouldn’t do for a friend,
and God blessed us all with a friendship like hers

We miss you, Tammy

You were a real Texas flower


“Texasflower helped make the AI threads so much fun. She always made me smile. FR will not be the same without her.” ~ Retrokitten

“I simply adored her ability to butt heads and loved reading her posts. She was always there with the perfect hug or hatpin, whichever she felt was most deserved.” ~ Doodlelady

“The sweetest, funniest, kindest poster on the AI threads where I had the honor of ‘meeting’ her.” ~ Jrabbit

“Texasflower was an integral part of our ‘American Idol’ gang. She was always sweet and upbeat and kind to all.” ~ Palladin

“In the beginning of November I was thinking about her because the town I work in was having their elections and it reminded me about her Dad going to vote in the ambulance … I loved her and miss her.” ~ No More Apples

“She was unfailingly polite, and more than that. Kind, thoughtful, patriotic, encouraging. A blessing. She was one of my most favorite FReepers, and I do not say that very often. She was exceptional.”

“We never truly know how deeply our lives touch others. I certainly never communicated fully to Tammy how much her posts lifted me up, and I regret that. I assumed she would continue to be there and I would be able to keep responding to her appreciatively.

“We will know in heaven the effect of our lives, when everyone gathers around the Lamb's throne and all our hearts are open and all our secrets known, and we have till forever to tell one another how God blessed us through each other …” ~ GretchenM

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Prayers & Condolences


“She'll be a light here forever” ~ Doodlelady


1 posted on 01/16/2006 4:00:14 AM PST by silent_jonny
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To: mystery-ak; twin2; EmilyGeiger; CAluvdubya; ConservativeMind; jocon307; kingu; TonyWpi; homemom; ...
San Francisco ~ Las Vegas ~ Denver ~ Austin ~ Chicago ~ Greensboro ~ Boston

They came from all over the country, chasing the same dream

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October 2005--over 8,500 hopefuls swarmed into Greensboro, NC
eager for a chance to become the next American Idol

"Whooh! Whooh!" Halicia Thompson screamed as she jumped out the door of the audition room.

She stomped her feet and threw her arms in the air.

Thompson, 27, of Eden [NC], had made it through the second round of "American Idol" auditions Tuesday at the Greensboro Marriott.

"Look what I got for you! Thank you, Jesus. I've been on my knees," she screamed as she held up the bright yellow paper that was her ticket to the final audition.


And so it begins …



Wake the kids and call the neighbors—it’s time for another season of American Idol!

Who will rise? Who will fall? Who will Paula sleep with?

Find out as we discover who will be the next American Idol!


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Since U Been Gone

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When we last saw Carrie Underwood and Bo Bice they were awash in hugs, kisses, flashing lights and falling confetti. There was one winner, but both had survived the crucible of American Idol—admirably so. Now their careers were before them and the real competition was about to begin: surviving in the post-Idol world.

Carrie, Take The Lead

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Building on the success of her first single, “Inside Your Heaven”, which would eventually be named Billboard’s Top-Selling Country Single of the Year and Top-Selling Hot 100 Song of the Year, Carrie was inundated with song submissions and professional advice. But the choice of what would be included on her debut album, she says, was hers alone.

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“There were so many wonderful songs from wonderful, wonderful songwriters here in Nashville -- and everywhere else -- that were sending us great songs. It was really just a matter of several of us sitting down and picking ones that would definitely work for me and definitely work for everything. I've never done this before, obviously, so I don't know what the best songs are. It's ultimately my decision about everything, so I definitely had people around helping me figure things out. I could have never done that alone. People would send me songs here and there, and we'd weed them out.”

"I love the new country sound that pop listeners would like, too. I also love Gretchen Wilson and that old country sound … I can't see myself in one direction. I just want to listen and if I like the songs, those are the ones that are going to be on [the album].

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Carrie’s record is a record breaker

The result is Some Hearts and, judging by the album’s sales, Carrie has a good eye (and ear) for material. Released on November 15, 2005, Some Hearts has already been certified double-platinum for sales exceeding two million copies, making it the fastest selling debut album in Country Music history, according to Nielsen Soundscan, the company that tracks record sales. The first release from the album, “Jesus, Take The Wheel” is currently #1 on Billboard’s Hot Country chart.

"I feel like the luckiest person in the world the way everything worked out … I feel like Jesus was taking the wheel and leading me through everything that was going on."

Along with fame, fortune and a best-selling album, there are some added perks that come with winning on America’s #1 show. In December, Carrie was invited to sing before the president in TNT’s Christmas In Washington, along with Rascal Flatts, CeCe Winans and others.

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Carrie Underwood and her mom, Carole, with President and Mrs. Bush.
Click here and here for more photos from Christmas In Washington

There have been endorsement deals with Skechers and Hershey’s …

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“Sometimes you feel like a nut”

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“Sometimes you don’t”

And most recently she was named “Oklahoman of The Year” by Oklahoma Today magazine.

“There's a fine tradition of country music stars winning the Okie of the Year prize, which has also gone to Garth Brooks and Toby Keith.”

“Carrie Underwood has the whole package,” according to Louisa McCune, editor in chief of Oklahoma Today.

“When we’re assessing candidates, we look for someone who has accomplished something phenomenal in the past year. The next thing we ask ourselves is, does this person encompass all that makes this state great?

“Carrie obviously had what it took,” McCune

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But things haven’t been quite as nice for Bo Bice.


Bo’s Rocky Road

The stress of post-Idol success triggers
Bo Bice’s health crisis

by Deborah Starr Seibel (January 9, 2006)

In the pivotal moment of his budding career, American Idol’s Bo Bice has been forced to put his career on ice. The reality-show runner-up should be celebrating the release of his debut CD, The Real Thing (with impressive first-week sales of 227,000, it placed fourth in Billboard’s Top 200) …

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"I'm grateful for 'Idol,' but so many of the first albums are taken as souvenirs," he adds. "I think that everything to do with my album -- the look of it, the feel, the songs-are about me. They didn't come in and go, 'Bo, change this, all of the kids are wearing mascara ...' F*** that. This is about the music. We got a rock'n'roll album, not a souvenir from a television show."

But the Alabama native is back in his new hometown of Nashville after a sudden illness last month in Las Vegas forced him to cancel appearances on The 2005 Radio Music Awards and Jimmy Kimmel Live. Bice is undergoing tests to discover why he’s still suffering stomach problems despite surgery last August to repair what he describes as “a kink” in his intestines.

“He was having trouble eating,” says In the Moment [CMT] exec producer George Moll, whose crew followed Bice from the Idol’s tour began last summer until early December. “When we looked at the daily rushes, you could see that he was really struggling. And very, very thin.”

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A noticeably gaunt Bo on the CBS Early Show in December

According to his rep, RCA’s Roger Widynowski, Bice is taking at least three weeks off before shooting a new video (a new tour to promote his album is also in the works). But the people around the 30-year-old are worried. “As a musician, you’ve got to strike it when it’s hot,” says pastor Donny Acton, a close friend and leader of Birmingham’s New Hope Cumberland Presbyterian Church. “But he’s not superhuman. He’s got to get some rest.”

In the best of circumstances, Idol’s rocket launch to stardom requires extraordinary stamina. And Bice has needed to deal with other significant events. He married his longtime sweetheart, Caroline Fisher, on June 15, shortly after the show’s finale. He broke his foot on stage in New Hampshire on July 31, then had major intestinal surgery on August 18. He and his wife welcomed their first child, Aidan, on September 24.

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Bo and his wife Caroline

Moll, a veteran record industry observer who created VH1’s Behind the Music, believes the stress that triggered Bice’s current health crisis didn’t start until the singer realized he could no longer control his career. The job requires him to be constantly on the road, separated from his family and his longtime band, and recording songs that (with a few exceptions) are not his own.

From all accounts, Bice has taken the hardships in stride. But even he admitted in an interview in October that he’s had trouble rolling with all the changes. “If I’ve learned anything in the past year, it’s to let go of a lot of things,” he said. “I’m kind of a control freak when it comes to my business. But you can’t control everything all the time.” TV Guide

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Where Are They Now?
The High Notes & Flat Notes
in the Careers of Past Idol Contestants

Season One
Season Two
Season Three
Season Four


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“How ya doin’, dawg?!”

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American Idol judge Randy Jackson greets the original Idol, Kelly Clarkson, backstage at the People’s Choice Awards (January 10, 2006)

Jackson accepted the award on behalf of American Idol, which was named “Favorite Reality Show, Competition”.

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“All your award show belong to me!”

And Kelly won the award for “Favorite Female Performer”, one in a string of awards and honors that she has received recently.

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After the first season ... many critics wondered if American Idol would truly help to discover artists capable of maintaining long-term careers in the music industry. Kelly Clarkson has proven that the answer is definitely “yes.”

"Breakaway" finished 2005 as the No. 3 best-selling album of the year ...

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[The album] debuted in the top 20 over a year ago, and has been in the top 20 for its entire chart life. It is the only album in the last five years to achieve such an amazing chart feat. "Breakaway" includes four No. 1 singles: the title track, "Since U Been Gone", "Behind These Hazel Eyes", and "Because of You." [The just released fifth single, "Walk Away" is also climbing quickly up the charts.]

[This] caps a year in which she was nominated for two Grammys for Best Female Pop Vocal Performance "Since U Been Gone", Best Pop Vocal Album "Breakaway" and won two American Music Awards, for Favorite Adult Contemporary Female Artist and the T-Mobile Text-In fan award. She won two MTV VMA Awards as well, for Best Pop Video and Best Female Video.

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In spite of her star power, Clarkson is known for remaining grounded and loyal to her fan base ... "She is very conscientious of her audience and takes care of her people and of her show" [said Jay Cantu, program director for KHKZ-FM 106.3 in Weslaco, Texas] "We’re excited to bring her down here because of that."

Because she began her career with a TV audience, Clarkson also enjoys something many artists don’t; a widespread demographic of fans.

"(Clarkson) has crossed over to different generations," said Alex Duran, program director for KVLY-FM 107.9. "Moms know it from driving in the car or flipping on FOX and watching American Idol. She’s clean; she’s a clean artist who has a good name and a good reputation, and she’s doing things the right way." (12-02-05)


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Meet The Judges
(and Seacrest)

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Judges Say New Season of Idol Will Be
More "Dramatic" Than Before

"American Idol" has had its share of drama over the course of four seasons, but much of that was the result of surprises in the audience voting. In the forthcoming fifth season, host Ryan Seacrest says, the contestants themselves may supply the theatrics.

… "In terms of competitive spirit between the contestants, I think we've seen more drama, if you will, and more individual and independent competitive spirit than ever before."

In the past, Seacrest says, there was a sense of "political correctness" and politeness that pervaded the contestant pool. But with the show having made top-selling pop stars out of all four of its winners, a number of folks in the current "Idol" crop are just looking out for No. 1.

"You're going to see some personalities who are really gunning for that spot," Seacrest says. "They know exactly what they need to do to win, and they're not going to let anyone get in their way."

This new round of Idol ... may finally cross over into a reality-TV staple that it has since quite admirably dodged: backstage backstabbing. As host Ryan Seacrest recently told reporters — and Randy Jackson now confirms — that this flock of songbirds is more like a committee of vultures.

"Every season, when we go out on the audition tour, we never know what we're going to get," Jackson reports. "I think the kids this time probably want this worse than ever, so there's quite a bit of interesting fighting and dialogue going on amongst them. People's egos are saying, 'We're friends and we're all in this together, but hey, I want to win this — and I don't want anybody to stand in my way.'"

Perhaps fueling this is the level of competition, which (you guessed it!) is being touted as the fiercest ever. "We say it every year, but this time it's 100,000 percent true: The talent is far better than any other season," proclaims Jackson. "There are great boys, great girls, and I think it's going to come down to the wire.

"Everybody is that good at the start," he adds. "This time, it will come down to who grows the most in front of the American public."

"You always try to find someone different each year," Simon says. "I was worried that we were going to get a lot of blonde girls trying to be Carrie Underwood. The second person we saw was like a clone of Carrie."

And Randy agrees, commenting, "We are trying to find someone unique. We are always trying to find someone different, but that has great, great talent."

"I feel bad when they are a little delusional and don't realize that they don't hear what we hear," Paula contributes. "So it is a little unnerving. I feel bad when they are good singers, but they are missing an element that they don't understand that they are missing. You either come in and wow the judges or you don't."

But keep in mind what Randy says, "It is the fifth season. Everyone has seen who America has voted for. Dude, if you don't come close to that, what are you doing?"

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Show Format and Schedule

The new season of American Idol will feature the same top twelve selection process as last year, FOX has confirmed.

The process sees the final 24 singers - twelve men and twelve women - perform live every week for three weeks, with two of each gender going home until the top twelve is reached.

The season premieres Tuesday, January 17 with the customary auditions phase, playing out over nine hours spread across four weeks. The 'Hollywood' stage begins Wednesday, February 8 while the top 24 performances begin Tuesday, February 21. The finals get underway when the top 12 take to the stage for the first time on Tuesday, March 14.


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And that’s all, folks—for now :)

Tune in tomorrow night, January 17, at 8/7pm and join the fun on the live thread! Next ping will be at 7:30pm Eastern, just before show time.

Thank you to Doodlelady, GretchenM, Jrabbit, No More Apples, Palladin and Retrokitten for allowing me to use their quotes in Texasflower’s tribute.

And special thanks to Wolfstar for her invaluable help in assembling this thread (you helped me more than you know!)



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I gotta be on top some day
I wanna be a star
I can see my name in lights

Gonna be a rock 'n' roll singer
Gonna be a rock 'n' roll star


It's a long way to the top
If you wanna rock 'n' roll

If you wanna be a star of stage and screen
Look out! It's rough and mean

It's a long way to the top
If you wanna rock 'n' roll


2 posted on 01/16/2006 4:01:02 AM PST by silent_jonny
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To: GretchenM; DollyCali; STARWISE; MotleyGirl70; snugs; kitkat; LadyX; deadhead; TruthNtegrity; ...

3 posted on 01/16/2006 4:01:51 AM PST by silent_jonny
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To: silent_jonny

Well, you're up early....

4 posted on 01/16/2006 4:03:13 AM PST by OXENinFLA
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So are you :)

5 posted on 01/16/2006 4:04:44 AM PST by silent_jonny
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To: silent_jonny
Looks like you did a lot of work on this thread, but I don't watch American Idol. No need to ping me in the future. :)


6 posted on 01/16/2006 4:09:20 AM PST by Notforprophet (Democrats have stood their own arguments on their heads so often that they now stand for nothing.)
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To: silent_jonny
I don't recall being on the AI ping list, but it's fine that I am even though I may not watch it this season.

I do remember TexasFlower and your tribute to her was well worth seeing. Thanks.
7 posted on 01/16/2006 4:10:04 AM PST by Cagey
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He's waiting for Gore's speech today..

8 posted on 01/16/2006 4:10:53 AM PST by ken5050 (Ann Coulter needs to have children ASAP to pass on her gene pool....any volunteers?)
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To: Cagey
Thank you. Isn't that your quote on her homepage, about her dad?

About the ping, I pinged two different lists and I don't know which you were on. If you'd like to be on the AI list, I'll be sure to include you.

9 posted on 01/16/2006 4:14:41 AM PST by silent_jonny
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FYI..New Year's Day I was out for a jog..went past my local video store...surprised they were open...everythig was out, abotu the only new DVD on the shelves was the just-release 2 disc set of "American Idol seasons 1-4"...I can heartily recommend to all of you that you rent it..some really great has the BEST and the WORST....never seen before, I believe..including all of Kelly Clarkson's and Clay Aiken's first auditions....and from the last season..nearly 30 minutes each of the trips of Bo and Carrie back home the week before the final show..You get a real sense of who both of these are..they're really nice folks..Best $3 you'll spend in a long time...and I even caught a 2 second glimpse of Brian Dunkleman..

10 posted on 01/16/2006 4:17:53 AM PST by ken5050 (Ann Coulter needs to have children ASAP to pass on her gene pool....any volunteers?)
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To: silent_jonny
Isn't that your quote on her homepage, about her dad?

Yes, it is.

I remember reading one of her responses on a thread and as many of us do when something profound is said, I took a look at her profile page. The photo of her Dad just hit me. I had to say something so I sent a short note to her.

Yes, leave me on the ping list for AI.

11 posted on 01/16/2006 4:21:03 AM PST by Cagey
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To: ken5050
and I even caught a 2 second glimpse of Brian Dunkleman..


12 posted on 01/16/2006 4:21:05 AM PST by silent_jonny
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To: silent_jonny

Willliam Hung has had more air-time than the Dunkster..

13 posted on 01/16/2006 4:22:56 AM PST by ken5050 (Ann Coulter needs to have children ASAP to pass on her gene pool....any volunteers?)
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That's true! And more people know who Hung is than poor Dunkleman (that's gotta hurt :)

14 posted on 01/16/2006 4:23:52 AM PST by silent_jonny
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To: silent_jonny

Hi! Please include me on your ping list. Great job!

15 posted on 01/16/2006 4:47:58 AM PST by Amityschild (< o >)
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To: Amityschild
Thank you :)

You've been added.

16 posted on 01/16/2006 4:53:56 AM PST by silent_jonny
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To: silent_jonny

Fantastic job, Jonny. Thanks for the ping.

That is a sensitive, insightful, and beautiful portrait of Tammy, especially of her eyes. Although we miss her, I take comfort in knowing all her trials are over and she rests in peace.

17 posted on 01/16/2006 5:15:44 AM PST by GretchenM (God made you. He will also take you out. Better to go on His terms -- through Jesus.)
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To: GretchenM
Thank you, Gretchen :)

You're really up early!

18 posted on 01/16/2006 5:35:07 AM PST by silent_jonny
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To: silent_jonny
Yes, and while I do not like worms, here I am anyway. ;-)
19 posted on 01/16/2006 5:39:12 AM PST by GretchenM (God made you. He will also take you out. Better to go on His terms -- through Jesus.)
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To: silent_jonny

Jonny the thread looks wonderful and I loved the opening.!!Finally 24 and AI are back on. This week will be fun.

20 posted on 01/16/2006 5:54:25 AM PST by EmilyGeiger
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