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Startup to sell Linspire-powered PCs
Desktop Linux ^ | Jan. 06, 2006 | Desktop Linux

Posted on 01/09/2006 1:07:38 PM PST by N3WBI3

Newly formed PC builder/reseller SeaScape LLC will introduce its first batch of pre-loaded Linux desktop computers within the next few weeks, company president James Rhodes told DesktopLinux.com on Friday. The systems will be based on Linspire's Linux desktop.

The fledgling Albuquerque-based company, founded last month, partnered with Linspire to use Linspire Five-O in all eight SeaScape microATX models. Customers will be able to purchase customized computers through the company website based on their particular needs and requirements, Rhodes said.

"Linspire Five-O is definitely the most user friendly Linux operating system to use on a daily basis," Rhodes said. "We feel extremely confident for the future of Linspire in the marketplace.

"We believe there is going to be unprecedented growth in the Linux desktop market. Our systems are going to be the driving force for the Linux community."

Rhodes said the company will be aiming its products at the consumer, educational, business, and government markets.

He also said that SeaScape has no intention of outsourcing the assembly of the computers.

"I'm a longtime programmer, and I -- like many others like me -- didn't enjoy seeing all our jobs go overseas to China and India," the Canadian-born Rhodes said. "I will keep jobs right here."

Rhodes, who has only one other employee at this time, said that a "major" investor he did not identify has come forward to help him start the company.

Rhodes said he is not yet ready to release specifications on the new computers. He did say that some of the models will include clear sides and tops, and that they all have 450-watt power supplies.

"I'm still deciding on a lot of things right now, but we'll know details soon," he said. "We are in the process of choosing which motherboard(s) to use, and what peripherals to add to make up a complete computer system.

"We will post more pictures with specifications and pricing (on the website) as soon as they are available."

In the late 1980s to early 1990s, Rhodes operated SeaScape Software in Winnipeg, Manitoba. He is a longtime computer professional in hardware/software installation and hardware/software troubleshooting for the Mac OS 9/X and Windows XP platforms, and more recently for Linspire Five-O. As a hobby, he enjoys "retro" computing with his two AMIGA 500 and two AMIGA 1200 computers and the AMOS Basic Professional programming language.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Computers/Internet
KEYWORDS: linspire; linux; opensource; seascape
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1 posted on 01/09/2006 1:07:40 PM PST by N3WBI3
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To: N3WBI3

What a useless waste of startup capital.


2 posted on 01/09/2006 1:09:42 PM PST by x5452
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To: N3WBI3; ShadowAce; Tribune7; frogjerk; Salo; LTCJ; Calvinist_Dark_Lord; clyde asbury; amigatec; ...

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3 posted on 01/09/2006 1:10:01 PM PST by N3WBI3 (If SCO wants to go fishing they should buy a permit and find a lake like the rest of us..)
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To: x5452
Maybe, maybe not... neither you or I have access to their business plan and many people said Redhat was a waste of capital..
4 posted on 01/09/2006 1:16:24 PM PST by N3WBI3 (If SCO wants to go fishing they should buy a permit and find a lake like the rest of us..)
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To: N3WBI3

No but I do know what the major applications folks buy computers for are:
Microsoft Office
Adobe Suite
iTunes

None of those run on Linux...


5 posted on 01/09/2006 1:18:25 PM PST by x5452
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To: N3WBI3
While I'm personally not a fan of Linspire, it is nonetheless a start.

Though personally, I'd like to see computers offered with commonplace distributions such as SuSE or Mandriva. Both are good general distributions that are relatively quicker to learn to current Windows users.

6 posted on 01/09/2006 1:24:01 PM PST by rzeznikj at stout (This is a darkroom. Keep the door closed or you'll let all the dark out...)
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To: x5452
No but I do know what the major applications folks buy computers for are:

MS Office = Open Office
Adobe Sweet - as in writer or photoshop? for what 99.9% of people do in photoshop GIMP is just fine.
iTunes - I know of no windows users who use iTunes (though some I am sure exist)

BTW with Winde I have run MS Office, and Photoshop on Linux though I have never tried iTunes..

7 posted on 01/09/2006 1:35:45 PM PST by N3WBI3 (If SCO wants to go fishing they should buy a permit and find a lake like the rest of us..)
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To: N3WBI3

Open Office, I actually beleived that till I convinced the company to buy it at one point...

Photoshop/InDesign/Distiller-Acrobat Can similar stuff be done on Linux? Yes. Do companies feel like spending millions retraining people to use it? No.

iTunes.

iPod uses iTunes to populate the iPod with songs. There are a copy third party utilities that can also do it but iTunes is free and usually far more uptodate/compatible with the latest iPods. I can't imagine not using iTunes with an iPod though my Russian freind does this.


8 posted on 01/09/2006 1:45:08 PM PST by x5452
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Your contention was that everybody used MSOffice, Photoshop/InDesign/Distiller, and iTunes..

I would guess less than 10% of computer users use photoshop, maybe 10% uses iTunes and MSoffice is very interchangable with OpenOffice for home users.. These are SWAG of course but nodoubt so were yours..

9 posted on 01/09/2006 2:23:11 PM PST by N3WBI3 (If SCO wants to go fishing they should buy a permit and find a lake like the rest of us..)
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To: N3WBI3
that they all have 450-watt power supplies

Well that is promising!

10 posted on 01/09/2006 2:48:40 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (History is soon Forgotten,)
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To: N3WBI3
You know one. :-) I have it on my mac, too.

iTunes - I know of no windows users who use iTunes (though some I am sure exist)

11 posted on 01/09/2006 3:35:57 PM PST by Salo (He hath touched me with his noodly appendage. Ramen.)
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I know of no windows users who use iTunes

OK, two.

12 posted on 01/09/2006 4:06:47 PM PST by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: N3WBI3
When I'm on Windows, I use iTunes. A lot of people do.

But from what I've read, Crossover Office Pro can run Office, IE, iTunes, Adobe, etc. The bad thing is that it costs $$$--though I believe there are bulk discounts available. It's something I'm going to look at investing in when I get a computer and Linux back up and running.

As for running with Wine, I've been able to get the install to run but not the program.

Most of the programs I've been able to run are small install-executables, with FF being the notable exception.

13 posted on 01/09/2006 4:23:57 PM PST by rzeznikj at stout (This is a darkroom. Keep the door closed or you'll let all the dark out...)
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To: rzeznikj at stout
The bad thing is that it costs $$$--though I believe there are bulk discounts available.

Even without the discounts it's not that expensive. Consider the price as part of the whole. Cost of Windows + Cost of Office compared to Cost of Linux + Cost of Crossover Office + Cost of Office.

As for running with Wine, I've been able to get the install to run but not the program.

Note that Crossover Office (and the other "Windows software on Linux app" Transgaming's Cedega) is just Wine with a pretty front end.

What you're paying for with CxO and Cedega is the work that someone has gone through to make it easy to install and run. The base software is the same.

14 posted on 01/10/2006 1:27:29 AM PST by Knitebane (Happily Microsoft free since 1999.)
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To: x5452
OpenOffice 2.0 and if you need The Gimp - the GimpShop should do nicely in Linux as a Photoshop hack. Its true Microsoft Office and Adobe don't run in Linux but then there are free equivalents. Not sure about i-Tunes.

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15 posted on 01/10/2006 3:06:52 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Knitebane
Yep. With WINE you can run Microsoft Office and maybe Photoshop to a fair extent in Linux. Don't expect 100% compatibility. If you need that stick to Windows or buy WinLinux, get a copy of Windows 98 and run the needed applications in a Microsoft window in Linux.

(Denny Crane: "I Don't Want To Socialize With A Pinko Liberal Democrat Commie. Say What You Like About Republicans. We Stick To Our Convictions. Even When We Know We're Dead Wrong.")

16 posted on 01/10/2006 3:09:21 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop

Open Office 2.0 is sweet. If your only experience with OO is 1.x, give 2.0 a try. Much improved.


17 posted on 01/10/2006 3:09:34 AM PST by twntaipan (Liberals: Eternally stuck on stupid.)
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To: N3WBI3
Photoshop is high end software. Its famous due to its bloat and price tag. Of course if you need the very best, nothing else will do - but at $600 its overkill for most people. They're better off with a more suitable editor like PSE, JASC Paintshop Pro or Photoline32. That plus their camera software should cover everything they need in the image editing department.

(Denny Crane: "I Don't Want To Socialize With A Pinko Liberal Democrat Commie. Say What You Like About Republicans. We Stick To Our Convictions. Even When We Know We're Dead Wrong.")

18 posted on 01/10/2006 3:12:56 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Knitebane
Even without the discounts it's not that expensive.

I agree, when comparing the price of Windows and the software versus running it on Linux and the cost of the CxO and the cost of software.

And for most people, you're right, the costs shouldn't be that much of a problem. They're not bad in themselves. Though for some people, it may indeed pose a barrier, or be a turnoff to purchasing it--especially where money is tight (i.e. small businesses, college students, etc.)

I'm running Wine on Slax, could this (running a live cd) be why I'm having trouble running iTunes, Opera, etc.?

19 posted on 01/10/2006 11:27:42 AM PST by rzeznikj at stout (This is a darkroom. Keep the door closed or you'll let all the dark out...)
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To: x5452

None of these run on Linux? Then tell me why I can use Crossover Office 5 Pro to run iTunes and Adobe Photoshop.


20 posted on 03/06/2006 5:36:42 PM PST by bigdcaldavis ("HYAHHHHHHH!!!!!!!" - Howard Dean; Xandros - Linux Made Easy)
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