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Atlanta History Center acquires Gen. Sherman's field orders
AP ^ | 12/26/5

Posted on 12/27/2005 1:58:49 AM PST by Crackingham

The Atlanta History Center has obtained Civil War field orders handwritten by Union General William T. Sherman. The history center got the field orders in a deal that was clinched with the offer of a bundle of Confederate currency that was donated to the center. Of the documents, 50 are field orders written by Sherman and two are orders written by his aides. They join another 12 orders the Atlanta History Center already had.

"Sherman surrendered," said history center president Jim Bruns, who likes the idea of Sherman's orders returning to the city the general ordered burned down.

The orders are so valuable because they "show Sherman's intentions, the deliberateness of his movements," Bruns said. "They make it clear that he wasn't going to camp here, and he wasn't going to garrison the city. So he had to destroy the city."

The documents will go on display by next September, Bruns said.

The deal for the 52 field orders was aided by the contribution of a stash of about 3,000 Confederate States of America notes that were discovered decades ago by developer Dick Myrick. Myrick, who kept the notes in a briefcase for 33 years, decided last summer to donate them to the cause of acquiring Sherman's orders.

"It really was the Confederate currency that got it started," said Seth Kaller, the historic documents dealer who had Sherman's orders. "Dick's contribution was one of the first that was significant enough for us to know the Atlanta History Center was going to be able to acquire Sherman's orders."


TOPICS: History; Military/Veterans
KEYWORDS: americanhistory; atlanta; civilwar; dixie; hero; sherman; union; warcriminal; zot
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To: StarCMC

Sorry - forgot to lose the italics on the last paragraph.


161 posted on 12/31/2005 9:52:16 AM PST by StarCMC (Old Sarge is my hero...doing it right in Iraq! Vaya con Dios, Sarge.)
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To: StarCMC
It saddens me, too--and for the same reasons.

FRegards.

162 posted on 12/31/2005 9:58:35 AM PST by A Jovial Cad ("If you kill enough of them, they stop fighting." -General Curtis LeMay)
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To: Old Sarge

Oh, come on. I'm totally sympathetic with you on this whole thing, but you want him banned just for being strident or a jerk? You can defend yourself and he looks like an imbecile with every post. It's the anti-FReeps that have righteous indignation that every post they disagree with is allowed to stay.


163 posted on 12/31/2005 10:04:13 AM PST by AmishDude
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To: Admin Moderator
Basically, if folks here can't get over a war that occurred nearly 150 years ago and have a civil and rational discussion

That's a "discussion between the states" according to some.

164 posted on 12/31/2005 10:07:06 AM PST by AmishDude
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To: A Jovial Cad
"But that doesn't surprise me in the least: members of the Lost Cause Squad seem to despise only one thing more than they do the outcome of the late Civil War: and that is all the brave men who fought to preserve the great Union we are currently blessed to live in, and all the men who've fought to keep us free since."

Absolutely spot on correct!

"The Lost Cause" cyber squad leaders continue dreaming of disunion and bringing about secession (insurrection) through some sort of broad-based civil disorder, possibly triggered by external geostrategic events, (Iran?) sinking America's into a state of chaos - instead of speaking in terms of greater unity especially while America is at war entering into the new year.

Have you noticed the most fanatical promoters of reviving the Lost Cause are deliriously, devoted disciples of Delorenzo's deliberate distortions & disinformation campaign for the 150 year old "cause".

In the case of "4CJ" his homepage has been converted into a shrine for the neo-confederate's most worshiped high priest himself, Tommy Delorenzo.

If malcontented neo-confederates feel stuck, or somehow enslaved "behind damnyankee enemy lines" America's freedom's permits departure at anytime. Is there a country which will deliver them their tormented existence of being forced to live in a "united" United States?

One has to wonder if those frozen in the past really believe "there are no Yankees in Heaven". :)

165 posted on 12/31/2005 12:46:46 PM PST by M. Espinola (Freedom is never free)
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To: AmishDude

"You can defend yourself and he looks like an imbecile with every post"

Why, whoever do you mean? LOL!!!

Quiet now.......he's sleeping soundly and that is good:)


166 posted on 12/31/2005 11:11:27 PM PST by jaguaretype (Sometimes war IS the answer)
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To: A Jovial Cad
"4CJ" went on a sweaty jag, no doubt largely false, about the "25" ancestors he claims fought in...well, name the war, and he'll no doubt fill you in on that massive legion of warriors.

I can document every one by name and rank, by mother and father, by their military unit. Ever heard of genealogy?

Yet, even with all that "veteran" familial blood surging through his veins, he can't seem to bring himself to say a kind word about the former Air Force Chief of Staff, an American military officer who fought with honor and distinction against both the Nazis and the Japanese, who organized the Berlin Airlift, and founded the Strategic Air Command...

Sorry, but I don't have a liberal mindset, in which one insists that all march in goose step - I went out of my way to do exactly the opposite - to not say anything derogatory about the man. The only opinion I hold concerns his targeting of innocent civilians. In my world, Islamic terrorists cannot attack civilians, and if they do - they should be tried as war criminals. And that applies regardless of whom their victims are - your family or mine.

And I'm not stating that LeMay is or was a terrorist, but I do find it incongruous that these threads are filled with posters demanding that we forget honouring our ancestors, while demanding that we share the esteem of theirs.

Even then, there are many yankees that are worthy of respect, I have oft stated so on these threads - those that fought honourably on the field of battle, who conducted themselves as gentlemen on and off the field I laud their accomplishments. Those that willfully and intentionaly attacked innocent civilians I will forever hold with disdain and disgust, regardless of their uniform - Confederate, Yankee or other. Timothy McVeigh was an American soldier, but I don't see many clamoring for memorials to him.

167 posted on 01/03/2006 4:56:15 AM PST by 4CJ (Tu ne cede malis, sed contra audentior ito, qua tua te fortuna sinet.)
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To: Tribune7
what UTTER foolishness!

sherman was a WAR CRIMINAL who was personally responsible for the unnecessary abuses/mass rapes/tortures/MURDERS of TENS of THOUSANDS of UNarmed INNOCENT women & children. fwiw,a USA commissioned officer is PERSONALLY responsible for EVERYTHING that his troops do or fail to do. (the USA hanged Yamashita & a host of other war criminals in 1945-46 for the selfsame behavior that sherman is now praised for.)

NOTHING he ever did before/afterward can wash the innocent blood from his hands. there is NOT that much soap & water on the planet.

MY 92 AmerIndian ancestors (who were raped/robbed/tortured/slaughtered like animals during a 4-day orgy of drunken excess by union cavalry) were a TINY portion of the victims of sherman's war crimes.

you really should go do some reading from the memoirs of southerners who were VICTIMIZED!

free dixie,sw

168 posted on 01/03/2006 10:19:14 AM PST by stand watie (Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to GOD. Thomas Jefferson, 1804)
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To: Ditto
yep. and EVERY ONE traitors to their home state & the southland.

free dixie,sw

169 posted on 01/03/2006 10:21:23 AM PST by stand watie (Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to GOD. Thomas Jefferson, 1804)
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To: M. Espinola
once more, i will NOT get you get away with that.

WORDS have accepted MEANINGS in intelligent discourse.

REVISIONISM is a creature of the MOST extreme LEFTIST (some would say COMMUNIST!), lunatic, south-HATING, idiot fringe of "poison ivy league" northeastern academia.

the REVISIONISTS hate the USA with about the same venom as they do our much beloved CSA.

traditional,scholarship is PRO-dixie or NEUTRAL.

you REALLY need to turn off your computer & go read what the REVISIONIST LEFT writes. then you might look smarter.

free dixie,sw

170 posted on 01/03/2006 10:26:56 AM PST by stand watie (Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to GOD. Thomas Jefferson, 1804)
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To: M. Espinola
i find it "interesting" that you would post a picture of the BRAVE,DECENT & HONORABLE BG Lawrence Chamberlain on the same thread with that of the WAR CRIMINAL,sherman.

free dixie,sw

171 posted on 01/03/2006 10:30:00 AM PST by stand watie (Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to GOD. Thomas Jefferson, 1804)
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To: M. Espinola
yet another DUMB-bunny post from FR's main DUMB-bunny!

free dixie,sw

172 posted on 01/03/2006 10:31:17 AM PST by stand watie (Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to GOD. Thomas Jefferson, 1804)
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To: M. Espinola; All
yet another DUMB-bunny post from FR's main DUMB-bunny!

free dixie,sw

173 posted on 01/03/2006 10:31:27 AM PST by stand watie (Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to GOD. Thomas Jefferson, 1804)
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To: stand watie
"i find it "interesting" that you would post a picture of the BRAVE,DECENT & HONORABLE BG Lawrence Chamberlain on the same thread with that of the WAR CRIMINAL,(S)herman."

Well, look who returned, new tag-line too. Being on extended detention may have actually improved your historical perspective concerning the "BRAVE,DECENT & HONORABLE BG Lawrence Chamberlain".

I am shocked you did not attempt to dishonour this noble man from the state of Maine, so determined to remove the source of slavery from the South and end the Rebellion which torn America in two.

In terms of General Sherman, I fully understand why you hate him since he took the war to the very center of the insurrection, bringing about defeat to the seditionist, Confedferate, leadership.

174 posted on 01/03/2006 11:11:57 AM PST by M. Espinola (Freedom is never free)
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To: M. Espinola; All
and yet another DUMB comment from "mr. SPIN" the hate-FILLED REVISIONIST's tool & chief fool.

the REVISIONISTS laugh AT the "useful idiots" who are DUMB/naive enough to believe their self-serving INTENTIONAL lies & propaganda.

as for my tagline, the "oh, so very PC folks" won that one.

free dixie,sw

175 posted on 01/03/2006 11:17:04 AM PST by stand watie (Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to GOD. Thomas Jefferson, 1804)
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To: M. Espinola
btw, i returned to my ORIGIONAL tagline. i'm a fan of TJ, a peerless southerner of note.

free dixie,sw

176 posted on 01/03/2006 11:18:43 AM PST by stand watie (Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to GOD. Thomas Jefferson, 1804)
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To: stand watie
WORDS have accepted MEANINGS in intelligent discourse.

Pretty rich, coming from you.

Now, are you going to post the emails you claim I sent you in which I say racist things, or in which I promise never to address you again, or will you admit that you lied and that they don't exist?

177 posted on 01/03/2006 11:19:09 AM PST by Heyworth
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To: stand watie
WORDS have accepted MEANINGS in intelligent discourse.

And what, pray tell, does "ORIGIONAL" mean in intelligent discourse. It's not in my dictionary.

178 posted on 01/03/2006 11:21:49 AM PST by Heyworth
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To: M. Espinola; Heyworth; injin

stand watie on his hopes for the United States of America:

"we southrons will eventually win. southrons are PATIENT. (time is on our side!)

first will come Le Republique de Quebecois, then Los Estados Unidos de Azatlan will be established & then we southrons can (peacefully) form a NEW & MUCH IMPROVED southron republic."

Amazing....but not surprising as to his aspirations for this great country of ours.


179 posted on 01/03/2006 10:55:25 PM PST by jaguaretype (Sometimes war IS the answer)
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To: M. Espinola; stand watie
Well, look who returned, new tag-line too

I noticed that, myself. And then comes "stand's" delusional explanation:

as for my tagline, the "oh, so very PC folks" won that one[Post #175]

I guess "stand" thinks the Admin's of FR are "oh, so very PC folks."

It's a wonder to watch such silliness as it unfolds over time...

180 posted on 01/04/2006 1:40:16 AM PST by A Jovial Cad ("If you kill enough of them, they stop fighting." -General Curtis LeMay)
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