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To: EveningStar; Jersey Republican Biker Chick

Hey, sticking it to some busy-bodies like MADD doesn't make you guilty of thinking drunk driving is funny.

Whenever I think about MADD I think about all the people who had two glasses of wine with dinner, got caught in a drag net and had their life wrecked with an undeserved DUI charge.  It's not about safety or awareness anymore.  It's naked lust for power.

Owl_Eagle

(If what I just wrote makes you sad or angry,

 it was probably sarcasm)

3 posted on 12/22/2005 11:21:53 AM PST by End Times Sentinel (In Memory of my Dear Friend Henry Lee II)
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To: Owl_Eagle

YEAH, drunks have rights too!


5 posted on 12/22/2005 11:23:57 AM PST by Jersey Republican Biker Chick (Cleverly disguised as a responsible adult.)
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To: Owl_Eagle

Their ultimate goal is to ban alcohol sales at all public places. Just like the anti-smoking Nazis have done and are continuing to do.


6 posted on 12/22/2005 11:24:46 AM PST by Ron in Acreage (Liberal Democrats-Party before country, surrender before victory, generous with other peoples money.)
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To: Owl_Eagle

naked lust....yeah!!!!


15 posted on 12/22/2005 11:34:00 AM PST by wallcrawlr (Pray for the troops [all the troops here and abroad]: Success....and nothing less!!)
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To: Owl_Eagle

aren't there still people in prison from the 60's for possessing one seed???

I agree 100% with you re: your points...


17 posted on 12/22/2005 11:36:40 AM PST by InsureAmerica (Evil? I have many words for it. We are as dust, to them. - v v putin)
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To: Owl_Eagle
It's all about personal responsibility...

Personally, you can have your glass of wine with dinner, and drive if you wish..
Or a six-pack..

But if you kill someone with a vehicle ( or anything else for that matter ) and there is alcohol in your system, I want a severe penalty..
Vehicular homicide combined with alcohol should be the same as pre-meditated murder... IMHO..

On the other hand, I vehemently object to "random stops" and "sobriety check points" set up by the police and highway patrols..
As far as I am concerned they are unconstitutional, and should be eliminated..

24 posted on 12/22/2005 11:45:36 AM PST by Drammach (Freedom; not just a job, it's an adventure..)
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To: Owl_Eagle
It's not about safety or awareness anymore. It's naked lust for power.

Don't forget getting the allowed BAC lowered so they can catch more people in their dragnets, thus claim drunk driving is even more of a problem, thus calling for a lowered allowed BAC, ad infinitum.

25 posted on 12/22/2005 11:46:23 AM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: Owl_Eagle; EveningStar
Then there's always the dyslexic mother that wandered
into the wrong meeting by mistake.

DAMM that makes me MADD!

47 posted on 12/22/2005 2:50:32 PM PST by higgmeister (In the shadow of the Big Chicken.)
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To: Owl_Eagle

They've gone way beyond just trying to curb DWIs and are on to full blown abstinence. Several years ago here in Raleigh, NC, a nightclub established a bus service to pickup up and drop off NC State University students. Sounded like a good idea to me because it would keep people from driving, but MADD would have none of it. They pitched a fit saying it would encourage drinking. Besides, BAC is arbitrary BS. BAC effects different people in different ways. Some pass out at .08 while others show little signs of impairment.
I did a research report as a senior in high school (1982) about BAC levels. The ABC (Alcohol Beverage Control board) sponsored the contest and I placed high enough to win $300 in scholarship money for college. Anyway, all my research was done by interviewing people. One of those was Dr. Patricia Waller who was head of the Highway Safety Research Center at UNC. They did a BAC test using med school students who, as it turned out, rarely drank. She said virtually all passed out by .10. Dr. Waller then had an idea. The building was being renovated so she asked some of the construction workers to volunteer. She chose those who drank regularly. At .10, she said these people barely showed any impairment. I also spoke with the head of the NC Highway Patrol and even he conceded that BAC levels were not a good measurement of impairment and added that it was easier to convict with a quantitave benchmark.


56 posted on 12/22/2005 9:44:17 PM PST by marblehead17 (I love it when a plan comes together.)
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