Posted on 12/09/2005 5:50:13 AM PST by NYer
Catholic League president Bill Donohue remarked today about last nights episode of South Park (it will run again for the next three nights):
A South Park character gets a DWI and is ordered to attend AA meetings. Told about the 12-step program, he concludes that he needs a miracle to cure him. The plot then focuses on a statue of the Virgin Mary who is bleeding out her ass. The Vatican dispatches a cardinal to investigate and he is sprayed with blood when he walks behind the statue. He then declares this to be a miracle, which draws even more people. The alcoholic, now in a wheelchair, is also sprayed with blood: he then claims he is cured and jumps out of his seat.
Pope Benedict XVI goes to investigate. He, too, is sprayed with blood when he walks behind the statue. A reporter says, The pope investigated further and determined that the statue was not bleeding out its ass, but its vagina. To which the pope replies: A chick bleeding out her vagina is no miracle. Chicks bleed out their vaginas all the time.
Comedy Central is a subsidiary of MTV, which is owned by Viacom. On the board of directors of Viacom is a practicing Catholic and a distinguished public servant, Joseph A. Califano; he served under Presidents Johnson and Carter. We are writing to him today requesting that he intervene in this matter. We want a) an apology to Roman Catholics and b) a pledge that this episode be permanently retired and not be made available on DVD. In the event Viacom does not cooperate, we are asking Mr. Califano to issue his own statement of condemnation. We are asking our members to contact him as well. Remember, they chose to insult Our Blessed Mother on the eve of the Immaculate Conception, and the holy day itself.
Joseph A. Califano is chairman of the board of The National Center on Addiction and Substance Abuse. He can be reached at CASA, 633 Third Avenue, NY, NY 10017; phone, 212-841-5200; fax, 212-956-8020; email, employment@casacolumbia.org.
No, I was just asking for an answer that was clear.
How did you come to think I was a pagan?
Because on the larger scale, people are more likely to quit alcohol by themselves than with AA. This discredits the claim that AA is somehow more effective than getting no treatment.
OTOH, if AA actually does work for certain people, that's great. I do not favor abolishing AA, but the attitude that it's the only way (you may not think it, but that's the way it's preached), and how it's hyped as the best way to quit drinking is false.
On a personal level, I disagree with the basic tenets, which is that one is powerless to change himself, when it is exactly personal power over his life that he needs. The "alcohol is a disease" angle also pisses me off. As Stan said, cancer is a disease, just stop drinking. If you need help, fine, but you don't have a disease.
It could also be related to the fact that AA is religious proselytization in the guise of treatment.
This what you get with "conservatives" for whom culture war holds no meaning.
"Jewlliard" was not about making fun of yeshiva, but making fun of Jon Edward and the people who believed that he really could channel their loved ones."
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That was one of my favorite episodes... as I recall Edrwards got the "Biggest Douhce in the Universe" award or something.
My point is, isn't calling all priests pedophile and having Pope John Paul II depicted as a babbling idiot didn't cross the line??
SP "crosses the line" all the time. I'm surprised when they don't cross the line.
Oh, so that makes it OK. Thanks for clearing that up.
And don't forget that they always satire Christmas. Remember the one from last year with the woodland animals wanting a virgin birth Savior of their own so they could have Christmas? One of the kids thought it was real cute and helped them out and then learned that their saviour was really the anit-christ.
I did not see this episode and I am sure it was in bad taste but I just don't get the Catholic obsession with Mary? I have heard more catholics utter the name of Jesus as a frustrated explicative but somehow Mary to them is untouchable..
HOLY COW IS RIGHT!
And that person is talking only depiction! (post #351)
Robert Bork made a case for "censorship" and standards particularly with BROADcasts. He is not a man of few words but his arguments were very strong.
I think you're impersonating a Christian. The Bible mocks both idol worshipers and pagans.
You've crossed a line. Killing people for mocking false religion in both anti-Christian and anti-American.
How many people objected to the strange, chimera-like appearance God has in South park?
I agree with Blzbba's post - seems to me I read a study somewhere that the people least likely to revert to alcoholism are the ones who just decided to stop drinking. The ones in programs (any of them) are the ones who tend more to go back to the booze.
Logan is a miracle!
Oops - should have read yours before posting mine. I agree, obviously.
My word! Aren't your 'principles' easily bought!
And after that Saddam Hussein gets sent to Heaven because he was too much trouble for Hell. That freaks him out when the Mormon take him to a cookie bake. Then, in a later episode, Saddam consripts the Mormons into making WMD's in Heaven and the U.S. is ready to bomb!
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