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Recording Teens' Every Computer Keystroke
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Posted on 11/27/2005 11:19:44 AM PST by mtbopfuyn

I'm looking to buy software to monitor computer useage by teens. I'm leaning toward Spector Pro but wanted to get feedback from y'all. Any recommendations or comments?


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To: mtbopfuyn

Speaking as a 21 year old, this is a waste of time and money and is likely to backfire.

Sit down and talk with your kids as equals, if they're old enough. If they're not, just lay down the law. If you've done a good job until now, and you probably have, there's not too much to worry about. If you haven't, this is just likely to make things worse.


22 posted on 11/27/2005 12:16:24 PM PST by Alexander Rubin (Octavius - You make my heart glad building thus, as if Rome is to be eternal.)
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To: CometBaby

That's not true, if the kids are computer savvy. ;)


23 posted on 11/27/2005 12:19:56 PM PST by Alexander Rubin (Octavius - You make my heart glad building thus, as if Rome is to be eternal.)
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To: mtbopfuyn

If you are honestly worried about what your kids are doing on the internet and have good reason to distrust their choices.

My suggestion... Get a hardware device that plugs between the keyboard and the computer. Password protect it and don't tell them you have it. Use it randomly.

There are a bunch of different devices like keyghost and keycatcher that will do the job.

Tell your kids that you will be monitoring their computer activity but don't tell them how or when. Don't be surprised by the content you find. They are kids after all.

Before I did this, I would look at their internet history files and cookie files to see what sites they are visiting. In their personal \Local Settings\history folder you can see the sites they have visited since the last time the history was erased. If there is nothing there to make you distrust them, I suggest you leave them alone.

Are you the password protected Administrator of their computers? Why not?


24 posted on 11/27/2005 12:27:06 PM PST by Poser
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To: blacklions
iam a teenager right now and just to tell u...

I have to tell you that while you may be a teenager, if you think the business world will come to allow this type of spelling and punctuation, you'll be sorely mistaken.

While I'm pleased that you've registered on this conservative forum, please promise yourself (and your parents) that you'll strive to become a proper writer (comma's and capital letters and all).

I have a job in a technical field, but the amount of writing I do is the amount they (your teachers, hopefully) warn you will be required of you in the real world.

25 posted on 11/27/2005 12:28:33 PM PST by GreenAccord (Right click to see ways you can interact with me!)
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To: mtbopfuyn
I am a teenager, so I'm a bit biased here, but I do not think that this type of software is a good idea.

Kids should be able to have private conversations without their parents reading it.

I know that I have had conversations on line that I would not want my parents to read. Not because there was anything wrong with what was in them, but because I just wouldn't want them looking through my private correspondence.

How would you like it if your spouse could read everything you wrote on line?
26 posted on 11/27/2005 12:38:04 PM PST by AVNevis (www.cahsconservative.blogspot.com Great Political Discussion from the eyes of a High School Student)
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To: mtbopfuyn
My only comment is that keyloggers are pretty weak and computer savvy kids will be able to disable/bypass them, even if they do not have the administrator's password. They work well enough for the non-savvy, but never underestimate the creativity and determination of your kids. My parents never had any luck using technical measures to control what I did as a teenager, and I never disabused them of effectiveness of some of their measures I was bypassing.

Another technological measure which requires more savvy to use but which is far more subtle is a transparent packet/protocol analyzer like Ethereal.

27 posted on 11/27/2005 12:48:38 PM PST by tortoise (All these moments lost in time, like tears in the rain.)
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To: furquhart; mtbopfuyn
I recommend against it as well. I recommend placing the PC in a central area, using Win XP and making yourself the only Admin account. Make them login and let them know that you scan the PC regularly for irregularites. When found, their password will be changed and they can read a book for the next month.

Worked for me.

One other thing I did that worked like a charm...I downloaded a freeware program called Parents Friend that did it all. I let them see me install it and told them this software would monitor their every move. I told them I would be monitoring it regularly and the directory would be hidden and password protected so they couldn't hack it.
The next day, I uninstalled it. The threat of just having it on the PC kept them in line.

28 posted on 11/27/2005 1:09:37 PM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸Ooooh...I think I over-medicated¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸)
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To: AVNevis
How would you like it if your spouse could read everything you wrote on line?

She does. Next objection.

29 posted on 11/27/2005 1:12:33 PM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸Ooooh...I think I over-medicated¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸)
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To: mtbopfuyn
I recommend HedgeBuilders.

I don't think it monitors keystrokes but it's a filtering service. You can check their website.

30 posted on 11/27/2005 1:13:21 PM PST by MudPuppy (Another Day ~ Another Adventure!)
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To: mtbopfuyn

I don't use a key logger. I own a Netgear Firewall router. I can't see every letter that my kids type but I can see and restrict their access to websites that I find objectionable. I can also time and bandwidth limit the ports their computers are plugged into.

Like most here, I recommend that you be up front with your kids and tell them what you are doing and why.


31 posted on 11/27/2005 1:15:47 PM PST by NerdDad (How is it that "Help me put up Christmas decorations" becomes "We have to shampoo the carpets"?)
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To: AVNevis
Kids should be able to have private conversations without their parents reading it.

NOt until they pay the bills.

Kids have zero "right" to privacy as long as their welfare is the responsibility of someone else (parents).

Get over yourself, kid.

32 posted on 11/27/2005 1:17:01 PM PST by freedumb2003 (Let's tear down the observatory so we never get hit by a meteor again!)
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To: mtbopfuyn

If you prefer a software solution to a hardware solution look into BSafe's suite of virus and filtering products.
On Web http://www.bsafehome.com/


33 posted on 11/27/2005 1:20:53 PM PST by NerdDad (How is it that "Help me put up Christmas decorations" becomes "We have to shampoo the carpets"?)
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To: AVNevis
How would you like it if your spouse could read everything you wrote on line?

Doesn't bother me if he or the kids read what I write - and they do. I've nothing to hide, nor am I ashamed of what I've written.

34 posted on 11/27/2005 1:38:07 PM PST by mtbopfuyn (Legality does not dictate morality... Lavin)
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To: mtbopfuyn

Damn, why don't you just plant a chip in their heads so you can read their every thought. Good try but, try communication first.


35 posted on 11/27/2005 1:51:26 PM PST by wolfcreek
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To: Malsua

oh c'mon. So you are a smarty farty with computers. You are talking about a mother who is just trying to monitor her kids. No need to show off :)


36 posted on 11/27/2005 2:47:45 PM PST by CometBaby (You can twist perceptions .. reality won't budge!)
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To: CometBaby
oh c'mon. So you are a smarty farty with computers. You are talking about a mother who is just trying to monitor her kids. No need to show off :)

Heh, well, that wasn't my purpose really. Yes, I've been at this for 25+ years, My point however was that any savvy kid could punt it pretty quick. I was offering a solution that's unhackable. Router logs can only be faked using proxys, which by viewing a log you could detect since all hits are going to be to the same or similiar URLs.

37 posted on 11/27/2005 3:45:54 PM PST by Malsua
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To: mtbopfuyn

All I can say is parents, please don't be so clueless. Your child may be an angel, but the trash and filth being posted at teen blogs is unbelievable. And your angel's eyes can read it all.

You better be watching.... very closely.


38 posted on 11/27/2005 7:43:24 PM PST by Cedar
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To: mtbopfuyn

Anyone who's savy with computers knows how use & download spyware detection programs. And alot of computer-gamers use it on the principle that spyware cookies clog up thier bandwidth and cause latency issues. Odds are they will discover it, and the fallout will be just as bad as if you put a spy-cam up in their room.


39 posted on 11/27/2005 11:06:39 PM PST by Fenris6 (3 Purple Hearts in 4 months w/o missing a day of work? He's either John Rambo or a Fraud)
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To: Fenris6

oh, disregard - didn't see that it was up front. But all that means is that they will find other avenues that are more private.


40 posted on 11/27/2005 11:10:37 PM PST by Fenris6 (3 Purple Hearts in 4 months w/o missing a day of work? He's either John Rambo or a Fraud)
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