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Recording Teens' Every Computer Keystroke
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Posted on 11/27/2005 11:19:44 AM PST by mtbopfuyn

I'm looking to buy software to monitor computer useage by teens. I'm leaning toward Spector Pro but wanted to get feedback from y'all. Any recommendations or comments?


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1 posted on 11/27/2005 11:19:45 AM PST by mtbopfuyn
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I'd recommend against this sort of thing. While it's good to know what your teenagers are up to, I daresay, (as someone who was a teenager not all that long ago) that there are probably a number of things you'd be better off not knowing.


2 posted on 11/27/2005 11:21:58 AM PST by furquhart (Gingrich '08)
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To: mtbopfuyn
My friend got it for his kids.

Unfortunatly for him, they hacked it, made it irrelevent.

Ironically, they now hassle him over websites he goes to. (Not porn sites, but they still mock him).

If the kids are smart, its all a waste of time and money.

3 posted on 11/27/2005 11:23:09 AM PST by Sonny M ("oderint dum metuant")
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To: mtbopfuyn

My sister uses one of these systems on her computer, not sure which one. Contrary to the previous poster's comment, when it comes to where your teenagers are going on the web, "Ignorance is not bliss."


4 posted on 11/27/2005 11:24:14 AM PST by dawn53
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To: furquhart
As long as the child knows up front that this is not a diary and that you will have access, I don't see a problem. I was reading some of the stuff kids were posting the other day and if it had been my kid, I would have taken the computer away.
5 posted on 11/27/2005 11:26:07 AM PST by CindyDawg
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To: Sonny M

"Ironically, they now hassle him over websites he goes to. (Not porn sites, but they still mock him)."

Like CNN.com? LOL.


6 posted on 11/27/2005 11:28:35 AM PST by jdm
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To: CindyDawg

They know I'm going to install a program so it's all out in the open.


7 posted on 11/27/2005 11:29:45 AM PST by mtbopfuyn (Legality does not dictate morality... Lavin)
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To: dawn53
Ignorance is not bliss.

True.

8 posted on 11/27/2005 11:30:26 AM PST by mtbopfuyn (Legality does not dictate morality... Lavin)
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To: jdm
Like CNN.com? LOL.

As a matter of fact, yea.

He always bashes CNN and the NY Times, but his kids found out he goes to those websites, so they bust his chops.

I find it all kind of funny.

9 posted on 11/27/2005 11:31:22 AM PST by Sonny M ("oderint dum metuant")
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To: mtbopfuyn
Like Sonny, I'd make sure your kids are unable to hack into it first. You can probably Google whatever system you are planning to buy for hacks-- there are lots of sites out there for that sort of thing.

Just stay one step ahead while still looking over their shoulder.

10 posted on 11/27/2005 11:32:37 AM PST by admiralsn (Friends are just strangers you haven't met yet.)
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To: mtbopfuyn

If it is not good for our kids maybe it isn't good for us either.


11 posted on 11/27/2005 11:42:12 AM PST by Khepera (Do not remove by penalty of law!)
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To: mtbopfuyn
I cannot recommend any of the programs as I have never used any of them.

Here is some advice tho .. make yourself the ONLY Administrator on their computer and set a very complex password .. that would be easy for you to remember. For example: iH2Pc4lr .. I have 2 pork chops for later (the caps being before and after the 2). Of course you would make up your own and take care they don't learn your password. If they cannot log on as Admin, they can't disable your key logger.

12 posted on 11/27/2005 11:45:56 AM PST by CometBaby (You can twist perceptions .. reality won't budge!)
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I appreciate your good intentions, but I respectfully disagree with your approach.

I would talk to your teenager on a daily basis to understand where her/his head is at, and tell them you trust them to use good judgement, and then demonstrate that trust. That is far more powerful in building their character than a $10 spyware program that will teach your kids not to trust you.


13 posted on 11/27/2005 11:47:07 AM PST by LA Conservative (Read The Politically Incorrect Guide to Islam by Robert Spencer)
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To: furquhart
I'd recommend against this sort of thing. While it's good to know what your teenagers are up to, I daresay, (as someone who was a teenager not all that long ago) that there are probably a number of things you'd be better off not knowing.

Baloney. Trust, but verify.

14 posted on 11/27/2005 11:47:11 AM PST by Spiff ("They start yelling, 'Murderer!' 'Traitor!' They call me by name." - Gael Murphy, Code Pink leader)
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To: Sonny M
Ironically, they now hassle him over websites he goes to. (Not porn sites, but they still mock him).

Disrespect? Lock them out of the computers for a while until they learn some respect.

15 posted on 11/27/2005 11:47:42 AM PST by Spiff ("They start yelling, 'Murderer!' 'Traitor!' They call me by name." - Gael Murphy, Code Pink leader)
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To: Spiff
Disrespect? Lock them out of the computers for a while until they learn some respect.

I'm kind of siding with the kids on this.

LOL.

He does (according to the kids) spend alot of time on the NY Times website while also blasting it all the time.

I told him to just dump the program, his kids aren't going to bad sites (as far as he can tell) and his kids hacked into it, so they know all of his sites he goes to.

When I saw them 2 days ago they nicknamed their dad "Uncle Joe" (as of Stalin) and were calling him a commie because he trolled a few left wing websites.

17 posted on 11/27/2005 11:55:05 AM PST by Sonny M ("oderint dum metuant")
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To: LA Conservative
I appreciate your good intentions, but I respectfully disagree with your approach

I agree with you, but have a conservative girl in my house. She knows darn well what is acceptable and not both online and in life. If it is questionable she brings it up to discuss. I told her no on the web cam and made her remove some info on some site that I saw when I googled her. I have to trust her as she is getting too old to constantly monitor.

18 posted on 11/27/2005 11:55:54 AM PST by doodad
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To: mtbopfuyn

Thanks all. FYI, we have basically good kids, but it's what else that's out there that causes concern. They know we're going to install a monitoring program and other than wrinkled noses there wasn't an outburst, so all's well on the homefront. Now, to think up a very complicated password.


19 posted on 11/27/2005 11:58:26 AM PST by mtbopfuyn (Legality does not dictate morality... Lavin)
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To: CometBaby
If they cannot log on as Admin, they can't disable your key logger.

Not entirely true. I'd pop in the windows CD, boot to the repair console, and delete/rename a critical DLL for the logger in under 3 minutes.

There are however a number of them that are stealthy, all however can be detected one way or another with programs like Rootkitrevealer, autoruns, and various trojan detectors.

personally, if I were concerned about it, I'd log outgoing traffic on my router and parse the log with some available tools.

Buddy of mine does exactly that and if the kid hits sites he objects too, he blocks traffic from the kid's machine for some period of time as punishment. It's worked well enough to stop the nonesense.

This won't log what the content of AIM/ICQ/Messenger/whatever or chatroom content, or site content but if you're got that much concern, the kid shouldn't be allowed to go on the net by themself.

20 posted on 11/27/2005 12:00:50 PM PST by Malsua
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