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Kara Beth Borden and David Ludwig: What Really Happened?
The Crime Library ^ | Nov 05 | Steve Huff

Posted on 11/20/2005 5:48:19 PM PST by wouldntbprudent

[snip] . . . However, the entirety of one blog was not yet deleted, and in that weblog, created using a variation on Kara Beth's "KareBear" screen name, she had pasted, on October 17, 2005, at 2:20 p.m., an instant message transcript of a chat she had with a friend. Using yet a third variation on her "KareBear" nick, Kara Beth seemed to show a different side to her personality.

if it has to do with david and me, we are taking care of it — we know what we are going to do. so you are just gonna go tell everyone?"

[snip]The chat between the two friends did not seem to end well. Kara Beth Borden wrote later in all capital letters, the internet equivalent of shouting; "YOU DONT UNDERSTAND WE TOOK THAT RISK THE FIRST NIGHT HE CAME OVER... we said

(Excerpt) Read more at crimelibrary.com ...


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1 posted on 11/20/2005 5:48:20 PM PST by wouldntbprudent
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To: wouldntbprudent

I believe the truth will come out in the end, and I'm sorry to say that my intuition leans toward Kara being implicated at this point. Oh well.

What a tragedy.


2 posted on 11/20/2005 5:54:50 PM PST by DoughtyOne (MSM: Public support for war waining. 403/3 House vote against pullout vaporizes another lie.)
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To: DoughtyOne

Sadly, it sounds from her posts almost like she may have been pregnant . . . "the risk" she and David took the first night he came over . . .

This friend, and others, seemed to be trying to warn Kara off of what they could see was a bad situation. That, at least, gives me hope: that there were some fellow teens who had good sense and good judgment and spoke up, at least to Kara.

The teen-age oath of loyalty, though, can be so destructive: if one of the friends who was concerned had talked to parents MAYBE this tragedy could have been avoided.


3 posted on 11/20/2005 6:00:02 PM PST by wouldntbprudent
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To: wouldntbprudent

I didn't read that in, but it may have been implied and I just missed it. It seem to me she was so under his spell and vise versa that they weren't going to take no for an answer, even if it meant drastic action.


4 posted on 11/20/2005 6:05:17 PM PST by DoughtyOne (MSM: Public support for war waining. 403/3 House vote against pullout vaporizes another lie.)
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To: wouldntbprudent

And isn't she just 14? I can't imagine having sex OR a boyfriend that young!


5 posted on 11/20/2005 6:06:44 PM PST by buffyt (America will never seek a permission slip to defend the security of our people. Pres. George Bush)
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To: wouldntbprudent

Fortunately, he's old enough to get the death penalty. I'm betting though that the prosecutor doesn't ask for it, and if he does, the jury won't give it. Here in Fla., though, I'd say there'd be a better than even chance.


6 posted on 11/20/2005 6:10:49 PM PST by Brilliant
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To: buffyt

Spend some time with young teen-age girls. It ain't like it used to be.
And, who's to blame?


7 posted on 11/20/2005 6:14:26 PM PST by MrLee
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To: Brilliant

Totaro (Lancaster Cnty. DA) may ask for it. He's one that will do so. Most of our local judges will accept that and conduct a trial in which death is a very real possibility.


8 posted on 11/20/2005 6:15:13 PM PST by Thumper1960 ("There is no 'tolerance', there are only changing fashions in intolerance." - 'The Western Standard')
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To: buffyt

A hundred years ago, 14 was the legal age for marriage. Plus most kids were out of school and working by that age. And course, we have the example of Romeo and Juliet.


9 posted on 11/20/2005 6:18:13 PM PST by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: RobbyS
It William Shakespear's Fault. You may want to forward that theory to the killers' lawyers.
10 posted on 11/20/2005 6:19:57 PM PST by H. Paul Pressler IV
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To: buffyt

Having Sex at 14!

Get a Grip, she had her mom and dad murdered at 14!


11 posted on 11/20/2005 6:21:40 PM PST by H. Paul Pressler IV
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To: H. Paul Pressler IV

Oscar Handlin. the author of "The Uprooted," a study of immigration, was a Harvard professor (I think I am right.) He was disgusted by the student revolut and complained that those guys were spoiled brats, that working class men and women in the 19th Century were grownups by the age they were twenty.


12 posted on 11/20/2005 6:56:55 PM PST by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: DoughtyOne

I think she was in on it, maybe all of it including the murders. My concern is that, if I'm right, and they let her off on this because of her age, she'll do something awful somewhere down the line. It takes an especially cold person to stand by, let alone help plan, the murder of one's own parents--if that's what she did.


13 posted on 11/20/2005 7:08:04 PM PST by MizSterious (Anonymous sources often means "the voices in my head told me.")
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To: wouldntbprudent

Really havent been keeping up with case but she is really starting to look like a lil skeezer...good church girls always go the wildest


14 posted on 11/20/2005 7:24:07 PM PST by skaterboy (Miss my kitty)
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To: MrLee

The girl was sending out nudes of herself so its fair to say they were most likely getting it on


15 posted on 11/20/2005 7:25:44 PM PST by skaterboy (Miss my kitty)
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To: MrLee

Spend some time with young teen-age girls. It ain't like it used to be.


**
So true. And so sad. Far too many of them are not only sexually active but sexually aggressive.


16 posted on 11/21/2005 12:52:58 PM PST by Bigg Red (Do not trust Democrats with national security!)
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To: MizSterious

She'l get away with it due to her age and gender. She'll claim she was a "victim." The true victims here are the young children that will grow up without parents because she wanted to act like a tramp.


17 posted on 11/21/2005 12:54:31 PM PST by Minus_The_Bear
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To: Minus_The_Bear

Sadly, I think you're right.
"What ever happened to sin?"


18 posted on 11/21/2005 1:06:35 PM PST by MrLee
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To: wouldntbprudent
He's definitely pretty good at mind games.

In the Hawaii episode he:

(1) Got a churchgoing girl to go against all her values and parental influence and have sex with him.

(2) Convinced her that she seduced him.

(3) Got her to apologize to him for having sex with him.

(4) Got her to decide to end communication with him.

(5) Left with her still thinking that he was a good guy and that she was the bad one.

There are several million teenage boys who would pay good money for that skillset.

19 posted on 11/21/2005 1:11:19 PM PST by wideawake (God bless our brave troops and their Commander-in-Chief)
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To: windcliff

ping


20 posted on 11/21/2005 1:17:36 PM PST by stylecouncilor
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