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"Are Men Necessary?" Who's asking?
The Denver Post ^ | 11/15/05 | Diane Carmen

Posted on 11/15/2005 7:32:36 AM PST by Millee

I was reading "Are Men Necessary? When Sexes Collide" last week on the stationary bike at the Y, and the men around me were sweating even more than usual. "So what's the answer?" one said nervously.

Maureen Dowd scares guys, so my familiar comrade in cardio wasn't exactly comfortable with me multitasking with the ultimate alpha female. "I'll let you know next week," I told him.

Sure, Dowd and I have a few things in common. We both grew up in working- class families with lots of brothers. We both started college in 1969 and have careers in the newspaper business.

There the similarities end, however, so reading her sly, dishy, cynical take on gender relations was like poring through a Lonely Planet guide to Bangkok.

I couldn't help but wonder what it would be like to live in such an odd place.

I mean, really, I was working a 6 a.m. shift at a newspaper in Portland, Ore., and rearing two kids when Dowd was sharpening her stilettos - and her wit - at GQ, Cosmo and the Washington Star. She was dating Michael Douglas and Aaron Sorkin in New York while I was arguing with a belligerent teenager in Denver. While I was worrying about paying for new snow tires, she was buying $100-an-ounce wrinkle creme. No wonder we have such different perspectives.

The premise of "Are Men Necessary?" - oversimplified - is that Dowd thinks men don't like smart, successful women, and smart women are so demoralized by this rejection, they resort to slutty clothes, Botox and plastic surgery in a desperate attempt to land a husband the sleazy, cunning, prefeminist way.

Honestly, I think she needs to turn off "Sex and the City" and get out more.

Since I haven't exactly been immersed in the singles scene, I called several smart Colorado women to find out what it's like out there.

"What a hilarious question," said state Rep. Morgan Carroll, an Aurora lawyer, who thinks Dowd is seriously behind the curve. "I'm actually seeing a resurgence of men who are growing bored with the counter-feminist culture."

There definitely are media pressures "to doll us up" and sell us beauty products, Carroll said, "but I'm seeing the pendulum move the other way. There are more men who are bored with empty women. They're much more intrigued with smart, independent women."

Chris Watney agreed.

A graduate student who has worked in the U.S. Justice Department, on Tom Strickland's Senate campaign and at the Colorado Children's Campaign, Watney said the whole notion of smart women buying "The Rules" and getting boob jobs to land a mate is ridiculous.

"If we were to use those tactics to get a date, the guy would surely be gone by the second date," which in Watney's case might be climbing a fourteener "with no makeup and my hair in a ponytail."

Still, in Colorado a woman can be too smart, even for fellas who give every indication they are secure about their manhood.

Amy Slothower and Jennifer Winther said the fastest way to scare away a man is to mention Harvard. Slothower calls it "dropping the H-bomb."

"I lived in New York for a while, and most of the men I encountered there had similar educational experiences and were successful in their own right," she said. If they asked her where she went to college, she didn't hesitate to drop the H-bomb. They didn't duck and cover.

In Denver, however, she saves that information until at least the second date.

Winther, who has a Ph.D. in biology and is heading to Harvard for a post-doc, said she rarely brings it up. "It's a turnoff," she said. Heck, for most guys, "just being in science is intimidating."

The whole topic is a minefield, for sure, but if there's anything on which smart women seem to agree, it's the answer to Dowd's provocative rhetorical question. It's definitely no. In post-

feminist America, men are not necessary.

But once they learn to cope with their insecurities and their chromosomal inadequacies, they can be a whole lot of fun.


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To: r-q-tek86

ROFLMAO! Bastard!


81 posted on 11/15/2005 8:57:11 AM PST by Fierce Allegiance (Want to be on my Civil Engineers ping list? Just say so!)
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To: Fierce Allegiance
Here comes them onkey in the loader pic!

...or even a MONKEY in the loader...


82 posted on 11/15/2005 8:57:57 AM PST by r-q-tek86 (When I move, I slice like a freaking hammer)
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To: PaulaB

83 posted on 11/15/2005 8:58:37 AM PST by EX52D
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To: Fierce Allegiance
I got board one day and Photoshopped up a few for you.
84 posted on 11/15/2005 8:59:24 AM PST by r-q-tek86 (When I move, I slice like a freaking hammer)
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To: Jersey Republican Biker Chick

Maybe her and Hillary are having an affair? >:-}


85 posted on 11/15/2005 9:00:56 AM PST by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: Millee

 

I saw Maureen Dowd's name mentioned, so I just, you know, figured this was mandatory.


86 posted on 11/15/2005 9:02:03 AM PST by Fintan (I miss MurryMom.)
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To: r-q-tek86

LOL..."board"...


87 posted on 11/15/2005 9:02:09 AM PST by EX52D
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To: r-q-tek86

You got bored and didn't compare and contrast the benefits of mauve curtains and duvet covers versus the taupe?

Or blue vs natural or green masking tape while applying Navajo White?


88 posted on 11/15/2005 9:03:49 AM PST by Fierce Allegiance (Want to be on my Civil Engineers ping list? Just say so!)
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To: blackie

Maybe!


89 posted on 11/15/2005 9:04:13 AM PST by Jersey Republican Biker Chick (People too weak to follow their own dreams, will always find a way to discourage yours.)
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To: PaulaB

Awww,
But I like you sappy!


90 posted on 11/15/2005 9:04:30 AM PST by najida (OK, so I have a new obsession. Ain't life grand :))
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To: Fintan

LUNCHTIME!


91 posted on 11/15/2005 9:04:30 AM PST by Fierce Allegiance (Want to be on my Civil Engineers ping list? Just say so!)
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To: Fierce Allegiance

Easy Fierce, or I'll have to post something showing why men are really necessary!


92 posted on 11/15/2005 9:05:49 AM PST by EX52D
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To: Baynative
"Are Men Necessary?"

Appearantly not. The democrat party functions without them.

_____!_____

Good point, there are NO REAL MEN in the democratic party at all.

93 posted on 11/15/2005 9:07:18 AM PST by tioga
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To: najida

Thanks love.... ;)


94 posted on 11/15/2005 9:09:16 AM PST by PaulaB
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To: colorcountry
DOWN WITH FEMINISM! We want men.

Preach it sister
I got your back!!!!
95 posted on 11/15/2005 9:10:04 AM PST by PaulaB
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To: EX52D

Oh,
You want me to do that?!?


96 posted on 11/15/2005 9:10:13 AM PST by najida (OK, so I have a new obsession. Ain't life grand :))
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To: Millee

Who's asking/ Why Lesbians of course!


97 posted on 11/15/2005 9:11:44 AM PST by Clemenza (We are a REPUBLIC NOT A DEMOCRACY!)
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To: najida

You betcha!


98 posted on 11/15/2005 9:12:09 AM PST by EX52D
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To: EX52D
I guess it comes from going to too many bored board meetings
99 posted on 11/15/2005 9:12:55 AM PST by r-q-tek86 (When I move, I slice like a freaking hammer)
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To: EX52D
Women need men to put out any, erm, fires that need to be put out >:>


100 posted on 11/15/2005 9:13:22 AM PST by najida (OK, so I have a new obsession. Ain't life grand :))
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