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Posted on 11/12/2005 11:32:57 AM PST by marketz

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Y. professor thinks bombs, not planes, toppled WTC

By Elaine Jarvik Deseret Morning News The physics of 9/11 — including how fast and symmetrically one of the World Trade Center buildings fell — prove that official explanations of the collapses are wrong, says a Brigham Young University physics professor. In fact, it's likely that there were "pre-positioned explosives" in all three buildings at ground zero, says Steven E. Jones. In a paper posted online Tuesday and accepted for peer-reviewed publication next year, Jones adds his voice to those of previous skeptics, including the authors of the Web site www.wtc7.net, whose research Jones quotes. Jones' article can be found at www.physics.byu.edu/research/energy/htm7.html. Stuart Johnson, Deseret Morning News"It is quite plausible that explosives were pre-planted in all three (WTC) buildings," BYU physics professor Steven E. Jones says. Jones, who conducts research in fusion and solar energy at BYU, is calling for an independent, international scientific investigation "guided not by politicized notions and constraints but rather by observations and calculations. "It is quite plausible that explosives were pre-planted in all three buildings and set off after the two plane crashes — which were actually a diversion tactic," he writes. "Muslims are (probably) not to blame for bringing down the WTC buildings after all," Jones writes. As for speculation about who might have planted the explosives, Jones said, "I don't usually go there. There's no point in doing that until we do the scientific investigation." Previous investigations, including those of FEMA, the 9/11 Commission and NIST (the National Institutes of Standards and Technology), ignore the physics and chemistry of what happened on Sept. 11, 2001, to the Twin Towers and the 47-story building known as WTC 7, he says. The official explanation — that fires caused structural damage that caused the buildings to collapse — can't be backed up by either testing or history, he says. Jones acknowledges that there have been "junk science" conspiracy theories about what happened on 9/11, but "the explosive demolition hypothesis better satisfies tests of repeatability and parsimony and therefore is not 'junk science.' " In a 9,000-word article that Jones says will be published in the book "The Hidden History of 9/11," by Elsevier, Jones offers these arguments: • The three buildings collapsed nearly symmetrically, falling down into their footprints, a phenomenon associated with "controlled demolition" — and even then it's very difficult, he says. "Why would terrorists undertake straight-down collapses of WTC-7 and the Towers when 'toppling over' falls would require much less work and would do much more damage in downtown Manhattan?" Jones asks. "And where would they obtain the necessary skills and access to the buildings for a symmetrical implosion anyway? The 'symmetry data' emphasized here, along with other data, provide strong evidence for an 'inside' job."

• No steel-frame building, before or after the WTC buildings, has ever collapsed due to fire. But explosives can effectively sever steel columns, he says.

• WTC 7, which was not hit by hijacked planes, collapsed in 6.6 seconds, just .6 of a second longer than it would take an object dropped from the roof to hit the ground. "Where is the delay that must be expected due to conservation of momentum, one of the foundational laws of physics?" he asks. "That is, as upper-falling floors strike lower floors — and intact steel support columns — the fall must be significantly impeded by the impacted mass. . . . How do the upper floors fall so quickly, then, and still conserve momentum in the collapsing buildings?" The paradox, he says, "is easily resolved by the explosive demolition hypothesis, whereby explosives quickly removed lower-floor material, including steel support columns, and allow near free-fall-speed collapses." These observations were not analyzed by FEMA, NIST nor the 9/11 Commission, he says.

• With non-explosive-caused collapse there would typically be a piling up of shattering concrete. But most of the material in the towers was converted to flour-like powder while the buildings were falling, he says. "How can we understand this strange behavior, without explosives? Remarkable, amazing — and demanding scrutiny since the U.S. government-funded reports failed to analyze this phenomenon."

• Horizontal puffs of smoke, known as squibs, were observed proceeding up the side the building, a phenomenon common when pre-positioned explosives are used to demolish buildings, he says.

• Steel supports were "partly evaporated," but it would require temperatures near 5,000 degrees Fahrenheit to evaporate steel — and neither office materials nor diesel fuel can generate temperatures that hot. Fires caused by jet fuel from the hijacked planes lasted at most a few minutes, and office material fires would burn out within about 20 minutes in any given location, he says.

• Molten metal found in the debris of the World Trade Center may have been the result of a high-temperature reaction of a commonly used explosive such as thermite, he says. Buildings not felled by explosives "have insufficient directed energy to result in melting of large quantities of metal," Jones says.

• Multiple loud explosions in rapid sequence were reported by numerous observers in and near the towers, and these explosions occurred far below the region where the planes struck, he says.

Jones says he became interested in the physics of the WTC collapse after attending a talk last spring given by a woman who had had a near-death experience. The woman mentioned in passing that "if you think the World Trade Center buildings came down just due to fire, you have a lot of surprises ahead of you," Jones remembers, at which point "everyone around me started applauding." Following several months of study, he presented his findings at a talk at BYU in September. Jones says he would like the government to release 6,899 photographs and 6,977 segments of video footage for "independent scrutiny." He would also like to analyze a small sample of the molten metal found at Ground Zero.

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To: marketz

A better study would be to find the relationship between Steven E. Jones, Alex Jones and turds.


61 posted on 11/12/2005 11:54:10 AM PST by fat city ("The nation that controls magnetism controls the world.")
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To: marketz

Man, you must invest heavily in tin foil.

Readjust your hat. It's slipped on the left side of your head.


62 posted on 11/12/2005 11:54:34 AM PST by mplsconservative
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To: garyhope
Jones, who conducts research in fusion and solar energy at BYU, is calling for an independent, international scientific investigation "guided not by politicized notions and constraints but rather by observations and calculations.

One has to wonder if he worked on the cold fusion experiments.

IBTZ

63 posted on 11/12/2005 11:54:57 AM PST by TC Rider (The United States Constitution © 1791. All Rights Reserved.)
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To: Delta 21

Thank you. This fool is no more entitled to say that Al Qaeda didn't destroy the World Trade Centre than he is to say the Japanese didn't bomb Pearl Harbour.

People like him are actual traitors, as their efforts are concentrated on diverting attention from the enemy.

Regards, Ivan


64 posted on 11/12/2005 11:55:32 AM PST by MadIvan (You underestimate the power of the Dark Side - http://www.sithorder.com/)
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To: SmithL
Thanks for using that click the pic graphic... I had to hunt back thru several hundred replies, but I finally found "Aw, Jeez!"

Been a welder since the 1960's, and I can tell you when steel is heated a few hundred ( let alone a couple of thousand ) degrees, it loses much of its strength. Fire pancaked those buildings- nothing more to it.

65 posted on 11/12/2005 11:57:01 AM PST by backhoe (-30-)
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To: marketz

66 posted on 11/12/2005 11:57:31 AM PST by antaresequity (PUSH 1 FOR ENGLISH, PUSH 2 TO BE DEPORTED...)
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To: skimask

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1520880/posts?page=1


67 posted on 11/12/2005 11:57:41 AM PST by CindyDawg
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To: Blurblogger

ping


68 posted on 11/12/2005 11:57:58 AM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: counterpunch
I don't see this article on worldnetdaily.com, or even wprldnetdaily.com.

WND has a link to the original article, here, in the Deseret news.

69 posted on 11/12/2005 11:58:10 AM PST by TC Rider (The United States Constitution © 1791. All Rights Reserved.)
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To: mware; Mo1; defconw; Txsleuth

Talk about a "sleeper" *PING*


70 posted on 11/12/2005 11:59:41 AM PST by tiredoflaundry ("Youth" - French for Muslim Rioters)
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To: sharkhawk
There is a certain thread that is running over there on their 9/11 forum that is simply mind boggling inane.

People posting pictures of the towers as they were falling taken thousands of feet away claiming that they can see 3' re-barb steel beams and all sorts of other nonsense.

Tin foil hat stuff and beyond. Some very sensitive types over there when you point out the obvious and resort to name calling, typically of dim arguments, when the facts are presented

71 posted on 11/12/2005 11:59:44 AM PST by Popman (In politics, ideas are more important than individuals.)
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To: marketz
I love your post from 10/30 as well. BWHAHAHA!

The mystery of the eye Posted by marketz to Species8472 On News/Activism 10/30/2005 4:47:00 PM CST · 27 of 31

It appears that weather control might be a fact after all.

Yessiree, we can control the weather and bring down tall buildings and get away with it! All your conspiracies belong to us!

72 posted on 11/12/2005 12:00:21 PM PST by mplsconservative
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To: marketz

73 posted on 11/12/2005 12:00:36 PM PST by BraveMan
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To: Popman
I rather thought so


74 posted on 11/12/2005 12:00:39 PM PST by STARWISE (The liberals and terrorists belong to the same club: THE HATE AND DESTROY AMERICA CLUB.)
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To: andyk

over here


75 posted on 11/12/2005 12:00:42 PM PST by CindyDawg
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To: marketz

"If Mr. marketz doesn't want to take his medication orally, I'm sure we can arrange that he can have it some other way."

76 posted on 11/12/2005 12:00:54 PM PST by LRS
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To: marketz

You forgot the other conspiracy theory that the Pentagon wasn't hit by an airliner. Also that no Jews came to work at the WTC that morning.

Why can't Free Republic ever get high-quality trolls? These drive-by guys are depressing because they don't stay around so we can toy with them.


77 posted on 11/12/2005 12:01:48 PM PST by Tarantulas ( Illegal immigration - the trojan horse that's treated like a sacred cow)
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To: MadIvan

C'mon, Ivan; don't sugar-coat it . . .


78 posted on 11/12/2005 12:04:10 PM PST by BraveMan
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To: skimask

LOL I love that picture. I've known some cats that would do that if......HMMMM Come to think of it it may be a good thing they don't have opposable thumbs.


79 posted on 11/12/2005 12:04:26 PM PST by OSHA (I've got a hole in my head too, but that's beside the point.)
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To: Left Before Life
"International scientific investigation guided not by politicized notions.."

Any international involvement is for the sole purpose of politicization. Anti-USA politicization.


80 posted on 11/12/2005 12:06:27 PM PST by I see my hands (Until this civil war heats up.. Have a nice day.)
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