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To: JohnathanRGalt; backhoe; piasa; Godzilla; nwctwx; All

NOTE: THIS IS AN UPDATE TO AN UNVERIFIED INCIDENT. UNVERIFIED IS A KEY WORD HERE. THANK YOU.

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http://michellemalkin.com/archives/003563.htm

WHAT HAPPENED ON FLIGHT 17?
By Michelle Malkin · September 17, 2005 11:51 PM
A number of us in the blogosphere have been catching wind of rumors that a surface-to-air missile was fired at an America West flight originating out of New York. Here's a post at Little Green Footballs, where many commenters are wisely skeptical but wanting more info.

I just got off the phone with Phil Gee, associate manager of media relations at America West, who promptly returned my late evening call. Here's what he told me:

On Sept. 15 (Thursday), America West Flight 17 took off from JFK Airport at 6:05pm EDT. The captain "took the initiative," says Gee, and reported an "irregularity" to air traffic control as the plane was ascending. The plane continued to Phoenix and landed safely at 8:55pm MST. FBI and other authorities met and interviewed all of the crew and passengers on the plane. The investigation is continuing.

Gee would not say whether the pilot or other crew or passengers reported witnessing a missile firing.

"Nothing is confirmed," Gee said.

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Although one tipster says America West has informed its pilots of the incident, Gee denied that any company bulletin has been issued. Gee mentioned that he had heard that other airline pilots had posted about the incident on an online forum. E-mail or trackback if you have seen other pilot accounts.

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75 posted on 09/17/2005 9:33:01 PM PDT by Cindy
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To: Cindy

"The captain "took the initiative," says Gee, and reported an "irregularity" to air traffic control..."

Those are called Pireps (or were, anyway). Pilot Reports. They were once posted freely on the web. Has no one looked up the 9/15-9/16/05 pireps for the NE?


78 posted on 09/17/2005 9:37:08 PM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: backhoe; piasa; Godzilla; nwctwx; All

Related thread/link:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1486688/posts


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To: milford421; Cindy; Paleo Conservative
According to Passur, the flight took off about 15 seconds before 6:50PM on Runway 22R, and flew straight out over Jamaica Bay, over the Rockaways, and across the Atlantic Ocean to just south of Sandy Hook, NJ. Typical flight path for a plane going southwest out of JFK.

According to PASSUR, the aircraft that took off directly before AWE 17 was Delta flight 2029, a 757 bound for Orlando. Emirates flight 9900, a 747, followed AWE 17, bound for Gothenberg, Sweden.

According to PASSUR, AWE 17 flew within a few miles of but far below a Lear Jet 60 at (37,000 feet) and a Sun Country 737 getting ready to land at JFK (at 13,000 feet) while climbing over the Atlantic Ocean at 4000 feet.

According to Google Earth, there's marshland at the end of 22L before a departing flight would reach the Rockaway Peninsula. The Rockaways are about 4-5 blocks wide at the point the flight overflew it at around 2000 feet and climbing.

LiveATC.net's archives don't have the JFK tower or Approach/Departure tapes from the 15th. I think the JFK scanner link has been down for a while.

The sun is setting around 7:00 in New York these days. The LiveATC.net radar shows that there were some heavy showers over parts of South Jersey, upstate New York, and east of Long Island at 7PM, but nothing near JFK.
38 posted on 09/18/2005 12:09:52 AM PDT by conservative in nyc
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111 posted on 09/18/2005 12:22:30 AM PDT by Cindy
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To: Cindy; 351 Cleveland; ajolympian2004; Dominick; Fatalis; Klickitat; WhistlingPastTheGraveyard; ...

Malkin ping!

Michelle's info is in post #75. This is a continuing "story" and UNVERIFIED at this time. More info can be found
Here: There was an "Incident" at JFK/America West Flight 17,
and Possible SAM attack against US Plane.


114 posted on 09/18/2005 12:37:17 AM PDT by cgk (When the BIG ONE wipes out Hollywood can we call it Bush's Fault instead of the San Andreas Fault?)
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