WOOF WOOF
Coco
Posted on 09/17/2005 6:13:51 PM PDT by Perdogg
Ok.
Updates appreciated.
I've always felt that was the case.
Having seen many meteors appear over the Atlantic horizon at dusk in late summer/early fall, that would also fit with eye witness accounts.
Coco
Sounds similar to TWA-800 eyewitnesses, huh?
Thank goodness we no longer have Slick's Know-Nothing Do-Nothing FBI & Justice to tell us it was probably ball-lightning and go back to our Sunday paper.
There was also a thread posted....2 days ago? giving an aurora warning.
>>> Article says the flight took off at 6:05 PM, but playback of traffic from JFK shows it taking off about 6:40.
Noticed the time since. I was half asleep on FR last night...coupled with a cold. Missed the time. Thanks!
Some have called the old SA-7 MANPAD system a Redeye missile with Soviet-level quality control. It was cheap to make but its accuracy left much to be desired if the IR sensor wasn't kept in working condition (which was way too true in the hands of terrorists).
While it's likely the missile if it runs out of fuel won't likely hit land if launched from near JFK airport, you forget that the water surface has the consistency of concrete when the missile hits the water at several hundred miles per hour. That would be enough to cause the impact fuse to detonate, and somebody out in Jamaica Bay would have hear the impact.
Thanks. I saw that, but didn't see any unusual actions.
Even the Soviet Army couldn't keep the IR heads serviced, and the copies are no better. Even when they were working properly, it had no all-aspect capability, which means that the plane has to be heading away from you for it to even think about following it.
From what I've read, even on its best day, the Strela would be decoyed by the sun, a hot car hood, a campfire, or even just hot air and were best used at extremely short range as unguided rounds (and even then they didn't work). The Redeyes were bad, but they weren't *that* bad. Of course, this is why the Stinger came as such a nasty surprise to the Soviets in Afghanistan - they thought that the MANPAD missile was more or less a joke against something like a helicopter.
The good news is that the Stinger absolutely has a "use by" date, and there aren't many on the world arms market.
"...somebody out in Jamaica Bay would have hear the impact."
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So what???
Nobody was interested when a few of my friend saw the explosion on Flt. 587 before it gyrated, started to break-up and eventually nose dived into the Rockaway Penninsular. They were near the sea plane ramps at Floyd Bennet Field and the explosion was almost directly overhead.
Yeh, even though I might have misread the time, I noticed that circling of the next couple of flights.
That's a really cool site, BTW. Do they have the service for other airports? I'd particularly like to see ones along the Panhandle and west Coast of Florida.
Well, so where the rest of us. :)
They may...type in Airport Monitor and the airport you're looking for. There are a number of them.
UPDATE...
http://michellemalkin.com/archives/003563.htm
"WHAT HAPPENED ON FLIGHT 17? (UPDATED: NO MISSILE, JUST BIRDS)"
By Michelle Malkin · September 17, 2005 11:51 PM
As I said on the other thread, the snow geese are coming back. }:^)
smiling...
Not only that, one of the regular showers was starting that very evening.
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