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I'd love to hear your thoughts on this question.

Many thanks!

1 posted on 09/10/2005 7:19:59 AM PDT by daviddennis
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A smaller start might be to go to the gym and get a personal trainer.


2 posted on 09/10/2005 7:23:36 AM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (George W. Bush...a Real Leader for Perilous Times !)
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Have you ever lived in a foreign country before?
3 posted on 09/10/2005 7:25:37 AM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Vote for the Constipation Party! They will never pass anything)
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a 43 year old somewhat overweight guy such as myself would be flooded with women

At least until your $20,000 is gone.

4 posted on 09/10/2005 7:28:55 AM PDT by Larry Lucido
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I would try somewhere closer. Possibly Carribean, Puerto Rico or Belize. I would do lots of research on lifestyle conditions, politics and any anti-American attitudes you may have to put up with. Learning the language would be a big plus wherever you go. Start learning it beforehand to give you a jump. Make sure you have an internet connection.


5 posted on 09/10/2005 7:32:35 AM PDT by BipolarBob (I'm really BagdadBob under the witness protection program.)
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Don't know if they still have a stronghold, but Islamists had a big presence in the Phillipines a few years ago. Maybe you should ask the Burnhams. (I think that was the name of the missionary family who were held for months, and the husband finally killed brutally.)


6 posted on 09/10/2005 7:33:36 AM PDT by knittnmom (...surrounded by reality)
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Be careful of the Abu whatever. Islamic terrorists who kidnapped and beheaded a man from California.
And killed the husband of Gracie Martin, I think that is her name...


7 posted on 09/10/2005 7:35:46 AM PDT by MarMema
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you have freepmail


8 posted on 09/10/2005 7:36:48 AM PDT by mrs tiggywinkle
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Abu Sayaf
9 posted on 09/10/2005 7:37:21 AM PDT by MarMema
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They say that the USA is the BEST country to live in for a good reason.


11 posted on 09/10/2005 8:23:02 AM PDT by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM 53 : 1 The FOOL hath said in his heart , There is no GOD .)
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Have you ever lived outside the US? Do you have any major health problems? Do you speak any language other than English? Have you traveled a great deal, not including tours or cruses and to third world countries? Can you eat most anything?

Answer these and I will put you in contact (by email) with a couple of Americans who each have 3-7 years living in the Philippines.

14 posted on 09/10/2005 9:02:17 AM PDT by HoustonCurmudgeon (Houston Astrodome - Compassionate Conservatism at work!)
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The Phillipines, although the people are friendly, and for the most part Christian, and speak some English, is a dirt poor country. The food is good; they eat lots of rice,pork and fish. Dont expect US levels of customer service, prices, movies, music, radio or TV. Peso say so, (bribes) for most part, are what you need to get any paperwork done. If you act like you have money, you will be a target for fraud, pickpocketing, kidnapping and any number of scams, including transvestites wanting to get married.
Mindanao is off-limits due to Islamokazi's.
You say you wish to have a beach house; consider the flooding, tsunamis, typoons and make sure you pick the side of an island that is on the lee side away from where storms hit.
Luzon and some of the other islands have pine forests in the mountains, that's where I would stay.
There are lots of retired and US GI's that can live on their retirement there, as well as Aussie retirees.
The Islands are mostly rural or urban areas, with little of what we in the states would call suburbs.
For businesses - bars, tourist traps, cyber cafe's, Sari-Sari stores (mom+pop corner stores) are the easiest ways to start a business there. An export company would be the best moneymaker long term, there are lots of locally manufactured and crafted products.
If you like dairy products = milk, cheese, butter, ice cream - they are available but expensive; most of the poor do not have refrigeration.
The beer/soda is pretty good, it all comes from one company, and is inexpensive
Appliances are expensive there, as well as electronics and computers and telecom services.
AC Power is bad, with lots of brownouts.
Clothing is cheaper here in the dollar stores.
If you hook up/get married you will be expected to help out with the family, and Phillipinos are like hillbillies with a flat family tree, large families and relatives worldwide.
The banks are not as stable as here in the US; but they pay a much higher rate of interest on savings.

Have been married for 12 Years to a girl I met in the Phillipines while stationed there in the USAF. I got a fiance visa and brought her here to get married. She goes home when there is enough extra cash to send her back - every couple of years.

The Phillipines is like anywhere else, there are good and bad folks as well.
I would not trade the experience for anything.


My advice would be to take some time off and find an area you would like to stay before you go permanently. Then come back and ship your personal effects by "Balikbayan" Boxes - $100-200 for a cubic meter of goods by boat. The shipment by boat takes about 2-3 months.

Bring good rain gear.








15 posted on 09/10/2005 9:16:58 AM PDT by axes_of_weezles (mainstream extremist (Ha))
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If you want to do it, do it. Free life altering advice from strangers is worth just what you paid for it, NADA, NIEN, ZIP.


16 posted on 09/10/2005 10:18:48 AM PDT by Ursus arctos horribilis ("It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees!" Emiliano Zapata 1879-1919)
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Your 20 grand will be gone in no time at all once you get hooked up with those swarming women you talk about. They love shoes.

17 posted on 09/10/2005 10:55:14 AM PDT by Cagey (Scrapple is not for vegetarians, those who keep kosher, or those with weak stomachs)
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You're not thinking clearly...


18 posted on 09/10/2005 11:16:37 AM PDT by dakine
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Check out Panama. They love foreigners, it's closer to home, and it would be a whole lot easier to learn Spanish!

It's super cheap, too, and you can certainly do the beach house thing.

22 posted on 09/10/2005 12:13:54 PM PDT by teenyelliott (Soylent green should be made outta liberals...)
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a 43 year old somewhat overweight guy such as myself would be flooded with women, while in the US I'd be lucky to get an attractive women to even glance at me.

Why? Has a blindness epidemic overcome the Phillipines?

25 posted on 09/10/2005 1:45:01 PM PDT by ShadowDancer (Stupid people make my brain sad.)
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If one of the locals offers you something to eat called "balut," run as fast and as far as possible.


28 posted on 09/10/2005 2:35:33 PM PDT by NewJerseyJoe (Rat mantra: "Facts are meaningless! You can use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!")
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Interesting Concept, but, (isn't there always a but?) the guys I know who have married Philipinas the most sucessful brought her back here. This is one of the reasons they are interested in Americans. Everyone wants to come to the land of the big PX, and can you blame them because here is where it's have wound at.Some that tried to take advantage of the low COL have wound up supporting half the Phillipines, some one mentioned the LARGE families. I have lived in several countries, Germany, Venezuela and Saudi Arabia but never in the Phillipines. Every where I have been Americans are tolerated for the dollars they bring and 20K wont draw many flies. Best wishes on whatever you decide to do.
barbra ann


32 posted on 09/10/2005 5:44:33 PM PDT by barb-tex (Why replace the IRS with anything?)
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Reading your replies in this thread, it sounds like you've given this a lot of though and have already made the choice to jump into the deep end. Your idea sounds exciting and worth looking into even more if you are serious. If I were in your shoes, I'd first spend a few weeks in the Phillipines or whatever destination you are seeking prior to committing to a move. Good luck and have fun!


34 posted on 09/10/2005 6:00:25 PM PDT by new cruelty
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I love the people dearly.

Haven't been there. Knew many in Taipei.

As I understand it--and I have an ambassador friend there now--there's tons of corruption and other inequities in the society that's very hard to overcome.

Tons of poverty. Most of the wealth is held in a few extended families as I understand it.

And, . . . with tinfoil hat on--there's the likelihood at some point of some pretty devastating quakes.

Then there's the likelihood of China taking it over once the next great war starts.

Other than all that--I'd think it should be a great place to do what you want for a year or so. You might also consider Thailand--which I dearly love.

But the Christianity in the Philippines might be more supportive of what you are about in some sense. Hard to say.

Personally, IF God is saying go and do something, I'd go and do it. If He's not--this next 1-6 months may be a very hazardous time to make it through. I think we all need to be wherever God calls us to be.


35 posted on 09/10/2005 8:36:51 PM PDT by Quix (GOD IS LOVE and full of mercy HE IS ALSO JUST & fiercely HOLY. Cultures choosing death shall have it)
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