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First shotgun purchase need some freeper help. I am looking to buy my first shotgun but dont really have a clue on brands/quality. I plan on using it mostly for skeet/trap shooting, probably not for hunting, also for some fire power at home. Also have a 12 year old daughter that I will be taking out to the range. All suggestions will be much appreciated!
1 posted on 09/03/2005 4:45:48 PM PDT by VastRWCon
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Plain jane model 870 Remington. Reliable and rugged and won't break the bankbook.


2 posted on 09/03/2005 4:54:39 PM PDT by stylin_geek (Liberalism: comparable to a chicken with its head cut off, but with more spastic motions)
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You can get a great used Remington 870 for under $250. (I have no clue what they cost new) In a short barrel, there is no better home defense weapon.

If you are quick and very good, you could shoot clay pigeons with it.

I know I could hit clay all day with mine, but it would scare the heck out of anyone standing close by.

You got to hit them almost as soon as they come out!!

But seriously, ther are several very good shotgun with multible barrels out there that would work well.

For home defense, the 870 is king.


3 posted on 09/03/2005 4:56:59 PM PDT by JimBianchi11
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t skeet and trap guns are 12 gage. You probably won't be able to come in under $500 on a good semi-auto, which you probably want for your 12 yr. old [less recoil]. 12's a bear for a kid with a pump. You can look for a 20 gage, but most trap and skeet guns are 12s. A good trap or skeet gun will usually be on the other side of a grand. Many are over and unders.

That being said, you can get a Benelli Nova with recoil system built in for around $500. Remington 870 pumps are even cheaper. I'm not sure what the street price on a Browning is, but a pump is less than $500 [I think}. Semis will run you at least six, more likely eight hundred. Plus, you need a gun that swings easily and points well [for skeet and trap].Barrel length should be 28-30" [too long for a home defense gun].

I would suggest you prioritize what you want the gun for, how much your daughter is going to shoot it and go from there.
4 posted on 09/03/2005 4:58:19 PM PDT by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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My first shotgun was from Sears Roebuck! If I remember correctly it was @$100.00. I still have it, looks great and shoots great. 12 guage pump, shoots up to a 3in Magnum. Works great for me. Keep it clean and well lubricated.

Use it for small game, rabbit. pheasant, etc. Have also used it for White Tail Dear, using slugs. This was in Virginia and Rifles were not allowed in that area. Of course it's very easy to get an Irish setter confused with Deer in Virginia! Some of those great deer hunters we all know hunt that breed of deer with rope burns around their neck!!


5 posted on 09/03/2005 4:58:25 PM PDT by 26lemoncharlie ('Cuntas haereses tu sola interemisti in universo mundo!')
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Shotguns really have to be fitted to be accurately shouldered and aimed for skeet and trap. The same gun that fits you will not fit your 12 year old daughter, unless you are the same size.

And, consider a 20 guage... just as effective on skeet and trap, and you can shoot a couple boxes of ammo in an evening shoot without leaving you with a sore shoulder.
6 posted on 09/03/2005 4:59:01 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog (Join the Hobbit Hole Troop Support - http://freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net/)
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A Remington 1100 would be easier for your daughter to handle, less recoil.


7 posted on 09/03/2005 4:59:25 PM PDT by claudiustg (Go Sharon! Go Bush!)
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Shotgun ping


8 posted on 09/03/2005 4:59:55 PM PDT by Horatio Gates (Proud parent of a Western State honor student.)
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BANG!


9 posted on 09/03/2005 5:00:52 PM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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I'm also in the 12 gauge 870 crowd. I found mine for $100 but the barrel turned out to be bent, right at the 18" spot, so it's a riot gun now. Extended mag, etc. The only way it can be called a game gun is if terrorists are a protected species.

Get your daughter a 20 gauge, if she's big enough, .410 if not.


10 posted on 09/03/2005 5:00:59 PM PDT by Marauder (You can't stop sheep-killing predators by putting more restrictions on the sheep.)
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And an automatic like the 1100 would be more suitable for trap or skeet. 12 gauge, 28 inch barrel, screw in chokes.


13 posted on 09/03/2005 5:01:58 PM PDT by claudiustg (Go Sharon! Go Bush!)
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for under $500, get TWO Remington 870s. One a 20" barreled ugly black plastic stocked eeevil shortgun, and a longer barreled wooden-stocked plain jane.
14 posted on 09/03/2005 5:03:30 PM PDT by packrat01 (Politics:Saying "Islam is a religion of peace" while seeking final destruction of Islamist Terrorism)
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For sure, get a 12 guage. You can buy "low recoil" loads if recoil is a problem for your daughter, and you can use full power loads. I'd recommend a pump action from one of the major brands.


15 posted on 09/03/2005 5:03:36 PM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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http://www.shotgunworld.com/


16 posted on 09/03/2005 5:03:55 PM PDT by satchmodog9 (Murder and weather are our only news)
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Remington Marine Magnum......

450 Bucks or less if ya have a FFL Gunslinger Friend. It's all ya need for multipurpose self defense as is yet I added ghost ring sights and a reciever rail for my old PVS 4 night vision scope. Good night fighter tool when accessorized with 3 large Rottweillers....

19 posted on 09/03/2005 5:10:32 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
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There are two big schools of thought, but I will say this.

GO with a 12 gauge. You can buy or reload shells that will not pack enough kick to hurt your 12 yr old daughter, and besides, if you are going to the range, you don't want to slam yourself with it.

Secondly, you have two options: pump or auto. The pump is cheaper, easier to clean, and simpler to operate and repair jams. The drawback: harsher recoil.

The auto is more expensive, a bit more challenging to clean (more moving parts) and jams can be a bit more difficult to work around. On the other hand, the recoil is reduced even with less powder shells but you take the chance of loosing the energy to eject spent hulls.

Regardless, for a 500 dollar price tag, a Remington 870 or 1100 is the way to go. You can find them at WalMart, pawn shop or gun store. Be wary of used guns unless you have a gunsmith to take it to and have it thoroughly checked over or if you know what you are doing when you select one.


20 posted on 09/03/2005 5:13:36 PM PDT by shag377 (De gustibus non disputandum est)
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I'm primarily a rifle/handgun guy, but here's my 2 cents on the issue.

If you are going to use this rifle for home defense, you will want two things: 1) tritium sights (the sights glow in the dark due to the tritium isotope in them-- you don't have to "charge them up" with light), and 2) a light for target ID.

Without those two items, your shotgun is not going to be very useful at night.

You'll want something that is easily accessorized and has plentiful spare parts. IMHO, a Remington shotgun is #1 in both categories.

You probably want a shortned stock (sometimes called a youth stock) because the standard stocks are quite long.

For a light, go with a Surefire (they are the only manufacturer I would trust to make a light for a shotgun) that has a disable switch so that you can avoid accidental light discharges.

In closing, I'd recommend you consider the following (I don't have this one, but will probably purchase one next year):

Wilson Combat Standard Model #SSTD-AS

If you scroll down on that website, it's the second one from the top. It has a light, a tritium front sight, and shortened stock. But it's pricey... about $1165.

23 posted on 09/03/2005 5:20:13 PM PDT by Mulder (“The spirit of resistance is so valuable, that I wish it to be always kept alive" Thomas Jefferson)
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What do you plan to do with it?

I went out for early dove season this morning...took the limit. :)


25 posted on 09/03/2005 5:26:11 PM PDT by adam_az (It's the border, stupid!)
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The first shotgun I had/have is a Wards Hercules model 50 side by side 16 gauge that was my fathers.It is still the best handling shotgun I own.
I have a Mossberg 600(I think,no model marked on it)12 gauge pump that was fairly reasonable for turkey hunting and an Excam 12 gauge,again no model marked, over/under that needs to have the stock shortened to fit me better.
For Skeet or trap get a good fitting double,side by side or over/under,(I prefer side by side as the shot plane is the same for both barrels)20 qauge for ease of shooting ,try one out because I have shot 20s that kicked as much as a 12.Check out a 28 gauge if you`re young or small.
The most important thing for clays or any shotgun hunting is having a gun that shoulders naturally and easily allowing you to get your cheek down on the comb.
The rest is practice.
27 posted on 09/03/2005 5:30:56 PM PDT by carlr
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http://www.spartangunworks.com/spr310_field.htm

I'm shooting one of these now. It's under $500, comes with 4 different choke tubes and you can buy more, shoots nice, isn't too heavy, absorbs recoil well, and it's built like a tank. The wood is nice, and the wood/metal fit is good, too. It's made by Baikal in Russia and is imported by EAA. I like it a lot, so far.

"Big 5" sporting goods carries it, they have stores in a lot of places. Don't get the Turk Khan which is a little cheaper, and real nose-heavy.

I'm a righty but I'm left eye dominant, so I had to get the stock bent to straight by a gunsmith since I shoot shotgun lefty. I'm not sure if they are all cast to the right, or just mine.


30 posted on 09/03/2005 5:32:45 PM PDT by adam_az (It's the border, stupid!)
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For skeet, buy 1 oz loads. 1 1/4 oz of lead kicks a little more, and isn't more likely to break clays.

Also don't shy away from lessons from a NSCA certified instructor, for your daughter either. I shot OK before, but after a few lessons from a good instructor, my shooting improved a huge amount.


31 posted on 09/03/2005 5:35:37 PM PDT by adam_az (It's the border, stupid!)
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