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shotgun for under $500

Posted on 09/03/2005 4:45:47 PM PDT by VastRWCon

First shotgun purchase need some freeper help.


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To: Squantos

LOL I'll keep that in mind!!!


21 posted on 09/03/2005 5:13:46 PM PDT by VastRWCon
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To: shag377

Yea I am leaning toward the semi-auto 1100 thanks for the advice. My daughter is well built for ballet so the less recoil the better to get her hooked on shooting.


22 posted on 09/03/2005 5:16:05 PM PDT by VastRWCon
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To: VastRWCon; Travis McGee
I'm primarily a rifle/handgun guy, but here's my 2 cents on the issue.

If you are going to use this rifle for home defense, you will want two things: 1) tritium sights (the sights glow in the dark due to the tritium isotope in them-- you don't have to "charge them up" with light), and 2) a light for target ID.

Without those two items, your shotgun is not going to be very useful at night.

You'll want something that is easily accessorized and has plentiful spare parts. IMHO, a Remington shotgun is #1 in both categories.

You probably want a shortned stock (sometimes called a youth stock) because the standard stocks are quite long.

For a light, go with a Surefire (they are the only manufacturer I would trust to make a light for a shotgun) that has a disable switch so that you can avoid accidental light discharges.

In closing, I'd recommend you consider the following (I don't have this one, but will probably purchase one next year):

Wilson Combat Standard Model #SSTD-AS

If you scroll down on that website, it's the second one from the top. It has a light, a tritium front sight, and shortened stock. But it's pricey... about $1165.

23 posted on 09/03/2005 5:20:13 PM PDT by Mulder (“The spirit of resistance is so valuable, that I wish it to be always kept alive" Thomas Jefferson)
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To: VastRWCon

I used to hunt with a guy who's wife complained how her 20 gauge kicked. He tried it, and it kicked more than his 12. It turned out it was one of the light 20's, so less mass to absorb recoil. Something to consider.

In an auto, the 1100 is good.


24 posted on 09/03/2005 5:23:42 PM PDT by stylin_geek (Liberalism: comparable to a chicken with its head cut off, but with more spastic motions)
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To: VastRWCon

What do you plan to do with it?

I went out for early dove season this morning...took the limit. :)


25 posted on 09/03/2005 5:26:11 PM PDT by adam_az (It's the border, stupid!)
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To: stylin_geek

on the 1100 model.... I see remington has many different versions of the 1100, Classic, field, etc... whats the difference in them?


26 posted on 09/03/2005 5:29:07 PM PDT by VastRWCon
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To: VastRWCon
The first shotgun I had/have is a Wards Hercules model 50 side by side 16 gauge that was my fathers.It is still the best handling shotgun I own.
I have a Mossberg 600(I think,no model marked on it)12 gauge pump that was fairly reasonable for turkey hunting and an Excam 12 gauge,again no model marked, over/under that needs to have the stock shortened to fit me better.
For Skeet or trap get a good fitting double,side by side or over/under,(I prefer side by side as the shot plane is the same for both barrels)20 qauge for ease of shooting ,try one out because I have shot 20s that kicked as much as a 12.Check out a 28 gauge if you`re young or small.
The most important thing for clays or any shotgun hunting is having a gun that shoulders naturally and easily allowing you to get your cheek down on the comb.
The rest is practice.
27 posted on 09/03/2005 5:30:56 PM PDT by carlr
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To: adam_az

go to the range and shoot, teach my daughter how to shoot, probably no hunting, to busy fishing. I am prior military and have been feeling the need to pull on a trigger again... LOL


28 posted on 09/03/2005 5:31:23 PM PDT by VastRWCon
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To: VastRWCon

LOL...In it's basic out of the box new condition it is a very well made shotgun and needs no extended mags or other tweeks as it has it all as sold. Very good one purchase to peek at if ya have time !

http://www.remington.com/NR/exeres/0000169arnfegvfaieeznzvo/RemArms+Rich+Product.asp?NRMODE=Published&NRORIGINALURL=%2ffirearms%2fshotguns%2f870mrmag%2ehtm&NRNODEGUID=%7bE56F9FE4-BDEB-47D1-BE86-106EE7CD2A2E%7d&NRQUERYTERMINATOR=1&cookie%5Ftest=1


Remember also that the MSRP listed is about 200$ more than what it can be found for if ya shop carefully....

Good luck on yer purchase....


29 posted on 09/03/2005 5:31:54 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
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To: VastRWCon

http://www.spartangunworks.com/spr310_field.htm

I'm shooting one of these now. It's under $500, comes with 4 different choke tubes and you can buy more, shoots nice, isn't too heavy, absorbs recoil well, and it's built like a tank. The wood is nice, and the wood/metal fit is good, too. It's made by Baikal in Russia and is imported by EAA. I like it a lot, so far.

"Big 5" sporting goods carries it, they have stores in a lot of places. Don't get the Turk Khan which is a little cheaper, and real nose-heavy.

I'm a righty but I'm left eye dominant, so I had to get the stock bent to straight by a gunsmith since I shoot shotgun lefty. I'm not sure if they are all cast to the right, or just mine.


30 posted on 09/03/2005 5:32:45 PM PDT by adam_az (It's the border, stupid!)
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To: VastRWCon

For skeet, buy 1 oz loads. 1 1/4 oz of lead kicks a little more, and isn't more likely to break clays.

Also don't shy away from lessons from a NSCA certified instructor, for your daughter either. I shot OK before, but after a few lessons from a good instructor, my shooting improved a huge amount.


31 posted on 09/03/2005 5:35:37 PM PDT by adam_az (It's the border, stupid!)
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To: VastRWCon

I like my Ithaca Model 37 pump - smoothest action of any pumpgun I've ever used


32 posted on 09/03/2005 5:51:43 PM PDT by King Prout (and the Clinton Legacy continues: like Herpes, it is a gift that keeps on giving.)
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To: VastRWCon; Travis McGee
of course, if you REALLY want to be irritating...



I'm looking at picking up one or two of these, myself
33 posted on 09/03/2005 5:56:37 PM PDT by King Prout (and the Clinton Legacy continues: like Herpes, it is a gift that keeps on giving.)
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To: VastRWCon

Ditto on the 870. It's a classic smokepole -- simple, rugged, useful. If you want even cheaper, go with a break-barrel. You could probably get a beater for under $50. Single-shot. Won't be much use in an assault. But if you want home protection, you're probably not going to need (or get) much more than one shot anyway.


34 posted on 09/03/2005 6:01:10 PM PDT by IronJack
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To: Squantos
Mossberg 590. Straight from the factory with the ghost rings and a 6 round tube for under $350.00

I prefer the placement of the safety on the Mossberg over the Remington, but that's strictly a personal preference.

L

35 posted on 09/03/2005 6:04:58 PM PDT by Lurker (Reality cannot be changed by wishful thinking, good intentions, or legislation.)
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To: VastRWCon

I have no idea. I'm guessing price tag, however. lol


36 posted on 09/03/2005 6:18:04 PM PDT by stylin_geek (Liberalism: comparable to a chicken with its head cut off, but with more spastic motions)
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To: JimBianchi11
For home defense, the 870 is king.

Not for a novice. Under pressure there is a major problem with short stroking the action and causing a double feed jam. It will also kick more, or at least there will be the perception of greater recoil. If home defense is the object nothing beats a semi auto Benelli Super 90 with extended tube. IF you can find the original M121 which preceded it, it will have beautiful wood furniture and you can put a riot length and choked barrel on it. That's what I have. Mine has ghost rings, sling and has been proported. I got it for about $400 at a gun show, used. There are different barrels available IIRC so it can be converted to other uses. The weapon is recoil operated and as that big block of steel goes into motion it absorbs the recoil, so it feels like a gentle push. I can empty the eight round tube before the first hull hits the ground and I'll stay on target.

37 posted on 09/03/2005 6:19:27 PM PDT by ExSoldier (Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
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To: Travis McGee
"When you care enough, to send the very best - send the M4".
When it's good enough for the Marine Corps -- it's good enough for everyone.....

Check it out.......but I've been told that Benelli has committed production to the U.S. Marine Corps for most of this year....

http://www.benelliusa.com/firearms/m4.tpl

Semper Fi

38 posted on 09/03/2005 6:22:05 PM PDT by river rat (You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: VastRWCon

---Does the 1100 have less recoil then the 870? Also, 20 gauge would be more appropriate for a 12 year old than a 12 or 16 gauge?---

The 1100 has less recoil than the 870 and is more suitable for clay targets. A lot of people get 20 gauge shotguns for young shooters, but you can get light loads for the 12 gauge that are comparable. I've got a 28 gauge Remington 1100 that's like shooting a BB gun, but the cost of shells is very high. I just like 28 gauge. :^)

12 gauge auto is the way to go.


39 posted on 09/03/2005 6:24:50 PM PDT by claudiustg (Go Sharon! Go Bush!)
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Where are you located? I am sure some freepers would let you try one of their shotguns if you are in NE or IA PM me and you can try an 870 out
40 posted on 09/03/2005 6:24:55 PM PDT by vrwc0915
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