Posted on 09/02/2005 6:00:16 AM PDT by wotan
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Posted on Fri, Sep. 02, 2005
http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/12539792.htm
Floods unavoidable, Army engineers say
The Army Corp of Engineers said recent studies on strengthening New Orleans' levee system, designed decades ago, had not made much progress.
BY PETER CAREY
Knight Ridder News Service
The levee system that protected New Orleans from hurricane-spawned surges along Lake Pontchartrain was never designed to survive a storm the size of Hurricane Katrina, the Army Corps of Engineers said Thursday.
The levees were built to withstand only a Category 3 storm, something projections suggested would strike New Orleans only once every two or three centuries, the commander of the corps, Lt. Gen. Carl A. Strock, told reporters during a conference call. Katrina was a Category 4 storm.
''Unfortunately, that occurred in this case,'' Strock said.
OLD TECHNOLOGY
Strock said the levee system's design was settled on a quarter of a century ago, before the current numerical system of classifying storms was in widespread use. He said studies had begun recently on strengthening the system to protect against Category 4 and 5 hurricanes, but hadn't progressed very far.
Strock said that despite a May report by the Corps' Louisiana district that a lack of federal funding had slowed construction of hurricane protection, nothing the Corps could have done recently would have prevented Katrina from flooding New Orleans.
''The levee projects that failed were at full project design and were not really going to be improved,'' Strock said.
`EVERYBODY KNEW'
Strock's comments drew immediate criticism from flood-protection advocates, who said that the Corps' May report was a call for action and a complaint about insufficient funding, and that no action took place.
''The Corps knew, everybody knew, that the levees had limited capability,'' said Joseph Suhayda, a retired director of the Louisiana State University's Water Resources and Research Institute.
''Because of exercises and simulations, we knew that the consequences of overtopping [water coming over the levees] would be disastrous. People were playing with matches in the fireworks factory and it went off,'' he said.
Suhayda, an expert in coastal oceanography, said, ``the fact the levee failed is not according to design. If it was overtopped, it's because it was lower in that spot than other spots. The fact that it was only designed for a Category 3 meant it was going to get overtopped. I knew that. They knew that. There were limits.''
NO SECURITY?
Some critics Thursday questioned the usefulness of levees, saying that all of them fail eventually.
''There are lots of ways for levees to fail. Overtopping is just one of them,'' said Michael Lindell, of Texas A&M University's Hazard Reduction and Recovery Center. 'There's a lot of smoke screen about `low probabilities.' Low probabilities just means 'Takes a long time.' ''
Strock said stopping the flow of water over the levees has proved to be ''a very challenging effort.'' Engineers have been unable to reach the levees and have had to draw up plans based only on observations from the air. ''We, too, are victims in this situation,'' he said.
In Louisiana, Army Corps officials said they hoped that one break, in what's known as the 17th Street Canal, might be closed by the end of Thursday, but that a second break in the London Avenue canal is proving more intractable.
Short sections of the walls that protected the city from Lake Pontchartrain caved in under storm surges, including an area that recently had been strengthened.
A fact sheet issued by the Corps in May said that seven construction projects in New Orleans had been stalled for lack of funding. It noted that the budget proposed by President Bush for 2005 was $3 million and called that amount insufficient to fund new construction contracts.
MONEY CRUNCH
''We could spend $20 million if the funds were provided,'' the fact sheet said. Two major pump stations needed to be protected against hurricane storm surges, the fact sheet said, but the budgets for 2005 and 2006 ``will prevent the corps from addressing these pressing needs.''
Acknowledging delays in construction, Corps officials in Louisiana said that those projects weren't where the failures occurred. ''They did not contribute to the flooding of the city,'' said Al Naomi, a senior project manager.
''The design was not adequate to protect against a storm of this nature,'' he said. ``We were not authorized to provide protection to Category 4 or 5 design.''
How much did the Louisiana governor pledge to keep the Saints in New Orleans?
You're 100% correct... that's why Bush will be blamed.
I think we should at least let these people get out of the squalid situation they are trying to escape before we start pointing the finger of blame in their direction. FGS, at least let them gather and bury their dead.
I heard a Corp guy on a talk show yesterday saying the Corp of Army engineers decided that levees to withstand "3'" hurricane were sufficient in New Orleans. Also apparently, they built the stuff without proper engineering with stuff laying around. The reporters said 'how do you feel now'. His reply was 'I think we need to revisit the situation'. Well duh...
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I wonder how much they spent of illegals in that time frame...
As usual, in NO politics and corruption prevailed over common sense.
Good; blame the Corps of Engineers. THEY didn't decide to build a major city below sea level. So - who's fault IS IT???? Stuff happens. There are things called 'acts of God.' Get over it, bury the dead, and move forward.
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I agree with what Franklin Graham said last night:
All the men standing around waiting to be evacuated, if they aren't sick or hurt, put them to work cleaning up there in New Orleans.
New Orleans is now paying the price.
I also keep wondering where the emergency planning was by the local and state government was. A decadent attitude just doesn't begin to describe the ineptness of everyone directly involved with this disaster. There were so many basic things that should have been done immediately....that were totally ignored by the powers that be. I suspect the looters aren't the only criminals we need to look at, eh?
Word up.
Welcome to Louisiana politics.
You have some FReepers less concerned about these people than the tsunami victims. What a bunch of losers and low lifes some people on FR are to have less concern for our own citizens than faceless people across the world who would just as soon as scream about our foreign aid budget.
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