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Firefox's 'retreat' ensures Microsoft excels
Contractor UK ^ | Aug 22, 2005 | Contractor UK

Posted on 08/26/2005 6:31:03 PM PDT by Bush2000

Firefox's 'retreat' ensures Microsoft excels

Open source web browser Firefox has lost the momentum it has steadily gained since it was unleashed last year, according to Web analysts at Net Applications.

The online portal’s unique Hit List service reveals a slump in the Mozilla browser’s market share, falling from 8.7% to 8.1 % in July.

Coinciding with its demise, was the advance of Microsoft's IE that has gained some of the ground surrendered in June, climbing back from 86.6 % to 87.2% last month.


The revival for the dominant browser comes on the back of average monthly losses of between .5 to 1% for Redmond, as Firefox started to gain acceptance among a wider audience than just tech-savvy users.

When asked by Contractor UK whether Microsoft’s sudden gains were from the unveiling of a new IE, Net Applications said a re-launch tends revive industry interest, and could have bolstered Microsoft’s market share of the browser market.

When a company launches a new product, there is always renewed interest in what the company has produced and it would also be fair to say that this may have had an effect, said a member of the Hit List team.

Although, there have been browser issues with Windows 2000 in the news, so it is possible that again you may see a dip [in Microsoft’s market share]. Right now, people are looking for security and whenever there are issues with the security of one's system, they will use what they feel will be the most secure.”

Besides Net Applications, web developer site W3 Schools, confirms that adoption of Firefox is falling, just as IE is reaching its highest share of the market in 2005.

According to W3's data on specialist users, Microsoft IE (6) enjoyed a 67.9% share in July, improving to 68.1% in August matched against Firefox’s top share of 21% in May, which has now dropped to 19.8% for the last two months.

Observers noted that both sets of analysis concur that Microsoft’s loss, up until now, has been Firefox’s gain, but over the last month roles have reversed.

Security fears concerning Mozilla and its browser product have recently emerged, coinciding with Microsoft’s high-profile trumpeting of its new safer browser product (IE 7), complete with glossy logo.

Experts at Net Applications said they were surprised at Firefox’s sudden retreat, saying they expected a slow down before any decline.

Yet they told CUK: “Whenever there may be problems with security, there always is a decline with users changing browsers.”

Data from the Web analytics company is based on 40,000 users, gleaned from their global internet operations, prompting some commentators to question the so-called ‘global decline’ in the Firefox market share.

The Counter.com reportedly finds that between June and July, Firefox actually increased its share by two points, and overtook IE5 for the first time ever.

The Web Standard Project suggests webmasters should treat data from web analysis providers with caution, before rushing to make service changes.

So what can we conclude?” asks the WSP, a grass roots project fighting for open access to web technologies.

“Not much: Mozilla-based browsers are probably used by just under 10% of the web audience and their share is growing slowly. IE5.x is probably used by somewhat less than that and its share is declining slowly. IE6 is roughly holding steady.”

Meanwhile, Spread Firefox, which measures actual download rates of the browser, reports that it took just one month for the Mozilla Foundation’s showpiece to reach 80 million downloads in August – from its July total of 70 million.

At the time of writing, Firefox had been downloaded 80701444 times, meaning adoption rates of over 10m occurred one month after Net Applications says Firefox bolted in light of the dominant IE.


TOPICS: Computers/Internet
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To: N3WBI3
Here's one for you...


141 posted on 08/26/2005 10:10:01 PM PDT by Golden Eagle
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To: an amused spectator
IE juat sucks.

JUST learning English? It's ok, others on here have already admitted it.

142 posted on 08/26/2005 10:11:17 PM PDT by Golden Eagle
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To: Golden Eagle
Chose your side, and live with it.

So what does this say about you?

143 posted on 08/26/2005 10:18:09 PM PDT by thecabal
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To: thecabal
Congratulations. I invoke Godwin's Law.
144 posted on 08/26/2005 10:22:01 PM PDT by Bush2000 (Linux -- You Get What You Pay For ... (tm)
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To: DeFault User
It has the tabbed browsing that Firefox users like, as well as "mouse gestures" that let you navigate almost intuitively.

Two features Opera has I wish Firefox would adopt are the ability to move the tab arrangement, and to easily resize each tab.

145 posted on 08/26/2005 10:24:52 PM PDT by yhwhsman ("Never give in--never, never, never, never, in nothing great or small..." -Sir Winston Churchill)
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To: Bush2000
Congratulations for citing the open source commie website Wikipedia for information. You guys kill me, LOL.
146 posted on 08/26/2005 10:25:10 PM PDT by thecabal
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To: thecabal
So what does this say about you?

Nothing, since I fully endorse bonafide Unix as an alternative to Microsoft Windows. As far as this browser discussion goes, I would highly recommend Opera as an alternative browser to IE. I see nothing wrong at all with the theory of diversification, in fact the best security can only be achieved by layering different products. I just don't believe in using products that have apparent communist ties. Obviously, others disagree.

147 posted on 08/26/2005 10:25:30 PM PDT by Golden Eagle
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To: Golden Eagle

this coming from someone who has trouble with their/there, and you're/your..


148 posted on 08/26/2005 10:26:22 PM PDT by N3WBI3 (If SCO wants to go fishing they should buy a permit and find a lake like the rest of us..)
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To: Bush2000
The same effect happens when you start implying freepers are communist sympathizers because of a software license..
149 posted on 08/26/2005 10:27:38 PM PDT by N3WBI3 (If SCO wants to go fishing they should buy a permit and find a lake like the rest of us..)
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To: tubebender

FYI


150 posted on 08/26/2005 10:30:22 PM PDT by ChefKeith ( If Diplomacy worked, then we would be sitting here talking...)
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To: N3WBI3
this coming from someone who has trouble with their/there, and you're/your..

Only today, when dealing with a hurricane. Of course I quickly corrected them too, unlike you who freely admits you don't care if we're constantly suffering through your English lessons.

151 posted on 08/26/2005 10:31:57 PM PDT by Golden Eagle
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To: Bush2000

I see your Godwin's law, and raise you Guy's corollary.


152 posted on 08/26/2005 10:32:03 PM PDT by birbear (Admit it. you clicked on the "I have already previewed" button without actually previewing the post.)
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To: thecabal
Congratulations for citing the open source commie website Wikipedia for information. You guys kill me, LOL.

Hoisted on your own petard.
153 posted on 08/26/2005 10:32:26 PM PDT by Bush2000 (Linux -- You Get What You Pay For ... (tm)
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To: N3WBI3

Thank you for pointing out what some people seem to be too thick to comprehend. Golden Eagle linked to some pics that a lone communist webmaster made to promote communism and Mozilla and all of the sudden that's supposed to prove that Mozilla is communist. Two can play that game.


154 posted on 08/26/2005 10:33:23 PM PDT by thecabal
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To: Bush2000
Have you done a spyware scan? A lot of malware changes your home page and installs controls which habitually crash. Odds are, you're 0wn3d by hax0rz.

Thanks for the thought...just tried running Ad Aware and SpyBot... no effect. IE still doesn't load.
155 posted on 08/26/2005 10:34:17 PM PDT by birbear (Admit it. you clicked on the "I have already previewed" button without actually previewing the post.)
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To: thecabal
Golden Eagle linked to some pics that a lone communist webmaster made to promote communism and Mozilla and all of the sudden that's supposed to prove that Mozilla is communist.

FYI, several of those were straight from mozilla.org, as was the one Bush2000 posted. Care to recant?

156 posted on 08/26/2005 10:37:09 PM PDT by Golden Eagle
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To: Bush2000

I can no longer sit back and allow Communist infiltration, Communist indoctrination, Communist subversion and the international Communist conspiracy to sap and impurify all of our precious bodily fluids.

157 posted on 08/26/2005 10:38:25 PM PDT by thecabal
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To: birbear
1. Are your spyware definitions up to date? (ie. did you download the latest defs?)

2. Have you tried running the IE executable directly?
158 posted on 08/26/2005 10:40:28 PM PDT by Bush2000 (Linux -- You Get What You Pay For ... (tm)
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To: Golden Eagle
FYI, several of those were straight from mozilla.org, as was the one Bush2000 posted. Care to recant?

No I don't. The banners are from Mozilla.org, but they aren't promoting communism, now are they? At worst they are ripping off the old Soviet propaganda poster style. BFD, that proves nothing. Your big "smoking gun" was created by a lone nut.

159 posted on 08/26/2005 10:41:02 PM PDT by thecabal
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To: N3WBI3

yep. The liar has been very quiet on that.


160 posted on 08/26/2005 10:41:12 PM PDT by flashbunny (Always remember to bring a towel!)
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