Posted on 08/26/2005 6:31:03 PM PDT by Bush2000
Firefox's 'retreat' ensures Microsoft excels
Open source web browser Firefox has lost the momentum it has steadily gained since it was unleashed last year, according to Web analysts at Net Applications.
The online portals unique Hit List service reveals a slump in the Mozilla browsers market share, falling from 8.7% to 8.1 % in July.
Coinciding with its demise, was the advance of Microsoft's IE that has gained some of the ground surrendered in June, climbing back from 86.6 % to 87.2% last month.
The revival for the dominant browser comes on the back of average monthly losses of between .5 to 1% for Redmond, as Firefox started to gain acceptance among a wider audience than just tech-savvy users.
When asked by Contractor UK whether Microsofts sudden gains were from the unveiling of a new IE, Net Applications said a re-launch tends revive industry interest, and could have bolstered Microsofts market share of the browser market.
When a company launches a new product, there is always renewed interest in what the company has produced and it would also be fair to say that this may have had an effect, said a member of the Hit List team.
Although, there have been browser issues with Windows 2000 in the news, so it is possible that again you may see a dip [in Microsofts market share]. Right now, people are looking for security and whenever there are issues with the security of one's system, they will use what they feel will be the most secure.
Besides Net Applications, web developer site W3 Schools, confirms that adoption of Firefox is falling, just as IE is reaching its highest share of the market in 2005.
According to W3's data on specialist users, Microsoft IE (6) enjoyed a 67.9% share in July, improving to 68.1% in August matched against Firefoxs top share of 21% in May, which has now dropped to 19.8% for the last two months.
Observers noted that both sets of analysis concur that Microsofts loss, up until now, has been Firefoxs gain, but over the last month roles have reversed.
Security fears concerning Mozilla and its browser product have recently emerged, coinciding with Microsofts high-profile trumpeting of its new safer browser product (IE 7), complete with glossy logo.
Experts at Net Applications said they were surprised at Firefoxs sudden retreat, saying they expected a slow down before any decline.
Yet they told CUK: Whenever there may be problems with security, there always is a decline with users changing browsers.
Data from the Web analytics company is based on 40,000 users, gleaned from their global internet operations, prompting some commentators to question the so-called global decline in the Firefox market share.
The Counter.com reportedly finds that between June and July, Firefox actually increased its share by two points, and overtook IE5 for the first time ever.
The Web Standard Project suggests webmasters should treat data from web analysis providers with caution, before rushing to make service changes.
So what can we conclude? asks the WSP, a grass roots project fighting for open access to web technologies.
Not much: Mozilla-based browsers are probably used by just under 10% of the web audience and their share is growing slowly. IE5.x is probably used by somewhat less than that and its share is declining slowly. IE6 is roughly holding steady.
Meanwhile, Spread Firefox, which measures actual download rates of the browser, reports that it took just one month for the Mozilla Foundations showpiece to reach 80 million downloads in August from its July total of 70 million.
At the time of writing, Firefox had been downloaded 80701444 times, meaning adoption rates of over 10m occurred one month after Net Applications says Firefox bolted in light of the dominant IE.
The GSP requires participants to visit Microsoft's headquarters in Redmond to review the source code.
http://www.serverwatch.com/tutorials/article.php/3399661
"It should be noted that Port80 Software has a horse in this race, however. The vendor's bread and butter comes from developing software that integrates with IIS to beef up the server's security and performance as well as enhance the IIS user experience."
SMACK!!!!!
An unbiased survey (33 months old) done by a software company that makes its money patching up MS's clunky web server software. HAH!
Great find there, mr turkey! I think you have a few more toes left to shoot off. Go ahead, take aim again. Everybody needs a good laugh.
Look at this way. IF IE didn't come with windows and people had to actually choose a browser, what do you think they would choose in a side by side comparison between FF and IE? It will just take more time, new marketing approaches and it'll be a never ending battle. I don't think FF is fading, just that it has peaked for a certain demographic.
LOL, proves what you said? The only thing that's been proven is you're never right about anything.
"ROFL you still don't get it? You put up a chart of Apache then tried to claim it showed Windows servers declining when actually Apache runs on Windows. And you're still arguing about it, LOL."
HEre's what I said, copied and pasted EXACTLY as I wrote it:
"What's significant in this graph is that MS has stopped growing in its web server market share"
No where did I mention Operating systems. I didn't mention windows. YOU did. You tried to put words into my mouth. You, quite frankly, are nothing more than a liar.
And a really pathetic one at that. If you're going to claim I said something, it shouldn't be on the same thread where the information is plainly available that condtradicts your claim and reveals you to be a liar.
OK, I think you're done with you left foot now. Start taking aim at the right foot. Start with the big toe and work left to right!
Liar.
Download != Conversion
port80 software makes its money patching up a sub-standard web server package from MS.
BTW, compared to your two year old graph, it shows Apache has made a 4% gain and MS has shown a .4% LOSS in the corporate market. OUCH!
Congratulations on continuously shooting yourself in the foot.
PS. You are a liar. Just restating what has been documented on this thread.
" The Top 1000 Application Servers Survey conducted last month by Port80 Software, a developer of tools for IIS Web servers"
Unbiased source right there. Kinda like the DNC touting a poll it did on Bush's approval ratings.
BTW, that storie shows MS's corporate share has declined in the past 2 years. Where's your news story on that? Is it a sign of the 'demise' of MS web server?
What's significant in this graph is that MS has stopped growing in its web server market share.
Hmm what is Microsoft's web server product?
a) Windows
b) IIS webserver
c) Linus Torvald's father was communist (I know you're not happy until you can say that)
LOL, you were supposed to bold your fonts when you started shrieking names, what happened, just wanted to shriek names without the bold fonts this time?
As anyone who knows anything is aware, a graph of Apache doesn't distinguish what operating system it is running on, and it could be a MS operating system. They do sell ~70% of all servers, of course.
http://www.itjungle.com/breaking/bn052505-story01.html
Not representative of total number of users, since you typically have to download an entire new version just to get a simple security patch.
Yeah I couldn't really understand. I don't consider there to be another browser war until somebody besides IE get's over 20%, preferably 25%. Until then it's just playin in the fringe. I like FF, it's a good browser, I like having alternatives, but people shouldn't get crazy.
WOW thanks! im downloading it right now. freepers are the best!!:)
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