[Maceman]

If the effects of one's life last no more than a generation past one's death, that is a loser. Before I get hate mail...even if all you do is contribute to the raising of your children to be better people, who in turn inspire their children, you are not a loser. On the other hand, if you spawn demon seeds and waste your life in leotards, you are a loser.

Well, I grew up with the Stones, and I have a six-year-old daughter now. Every time she gets petulant because I won't buy her some toy or knick-knack that she can't live without, I break into a chorus of: "You Can't Always Get What You Want."

She really hates that song now, but she gets the point.

So if only in this tiny way, Jagger has made a positive contribution to the raising of the next generation.

[Sensei Ern]

I prefer the song that goes, "I said, "No, and if you insist on carrying on, I will whip the rebellion right out of you."

The word "whip" may be pffensive to some listeners so just put the obligatory, "BLEEP" in it's place.