Posted on 07/26/2005 2:54:12 PM PDT by Redcitizen
LONDON (Reuters) - Forget expensive presents or costly jewellery. Wining and dining is the best way for men to woo women, scientists said on Tuesday.
Researchers at Imperial College London developed a mathematical formula and modelled courtship as a sequential game to find the best way to impress the ladies.
Their results show that offering an expensive present signals the man's serious intentions but he must be wary of being exploited by gold-diggers who will dump him after receiving the gift.
"Guys are less likely to offer expensive gifts to females they don't have a long-term interest in. And girls won't be impressed with cheap gifts. By offering expensive but worthless gifts, such as dinner and theatre trips, the male pays no cost if the invitation isn't accepted," said Dr Peter Sozou, of University College London (UCL).
If women are not interested they are unlikely to accept the invitation, according to the research published in the journal Proceedings of the Royal Society of London B.
The researchers said giving gifts was a feature of courtship in humans and other species to impress females. Physical attraction is an important element but offering gifts also helps.
"Our analysis shows there is evolutionary logic in men 'burning money' to impress the girl," said Professor Robert Seymour of UCL's department of mathematics.
Thank you for making my point clearly. Mr. Jeeves, Have you read David DeAngelo on this very subject?
Anyway, like you said, women cannot help the way they feel when they are attracted to arrogant jerk who would seem strong enough to protect the woman and her children.
It's not natural for women to be attracted to timid but sweet men because they would not summon the courage to protect the women they love. Think about it.
As I'm sure you are aware, men can't get away with that for more than about an hour. ;)
Heh. I have some research code (C and Python) in another window that I'm hacking on this evening for my own amusement, primarily to avoid dreadfully tedious business writing for the same company (my latest startup). I prefer to get my hands dirty. It sounds like yours is more "work" work though.
These threads never change; in two hundred years disembodied virtual FReepers will be having the same issues and discussions. :-)
LOL!!!
You are one of a kind, Salamander!!!!
You can say that now - I sold my porsche.
I HAVE NEVER BEEN ATTRACKED TO AN ARROGANT JERK!!!
I do have them as friends - but I'm better than that. I wouldn't DATE an arrogant jerk for all the testosterone in the NFL.
JERKS are JERKS!!!
You can't fool me.
Those are horse hooves, not bee hooves.
But that horse was only in Bee movies.
And for that, the world should be grateful.....;))
*rimshot*
Yep. I like David D. and think he's mostly right on - the big problem with his material is that it requires men who aren't already outgoing and personable to make a very deep personal change - the difficulty of which he sometimes doesn't seem to fully acknowledge. If you've been programmed with this negative stuff since you were five years old, "Get it done, wussbag!" isn't exactly helpful advice...LOL!
For men who are already extroverted and just haven't been treating women with the same openness they threat their friends, David D.'s material is great - only minor tweaking to one's approach to the world is required to use it successfully.
But hopefully using new programming languages... ;)
I believe you. Ok, not all women are attracted to arrogant jerks.
But do you remember in high school that your friends tended to date confident guys who were on the football team? Okay, now tell me why they didn't date someone like, let's say Bill Gates? Be honest with me.
Certainly, it's safe to say that he did not date any girls in high school. (or at Harvard for that matter)
You probably have, it's just that because you were attracted to him, you didn't see him as an arrogant jerk (but I'll bet some of your male friends did.)
Wow! What are the chances I could post these lyrics on two threads within an hour and make sense in both?!
Girls don't like boys
Girls like cars and money
Bill didn't leave the garage long enough to meet girls.
Start to look at what type of women you are attracted to and what types are attracted to you. See if you can move those two points closer together.
Haven't you noticed how all those romance novels are loaded with leading men like Bill Gates? Timid, shy, respectful heroes who let the heroine do whatever she wants? LOL!
You'd be surprised. One of my best friends is an arrogant jerk. I love him. He's a great friend. I wouldn't date him because he doesn't value women enough for me.
Java and Objective-C here for a contract gig. I keep hearing good things about Python, I'll try it for my next personal project.
DD, glad to hear there are women like you out there, but it seems you're a minority. From my experience the desire for alpha-male qualities (or appearance of them) is genetically hard-wired, which does make sense from an evolutionary standpoint.
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