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Wining and dining best way to woo women
Reuters ^ | Tue Jul 26,10:06 AM ET | unknown

Posted on 07/26/2005 2:54:12 PM PDT by Redcitizen

LONDON (Reuters) - Forget expensive presents or costly jewellery. Wining and dining is the best way for men to woo women, scientists said on Tuesday.

Researchers at Imperial College London developed a mathematical formula and modelled courtship as a sequential game to find the best way to impress the ladies.

Their results show that offering an expensive present signals the man's serious intentions but he must be wary of being exploited by gold-diggers who will dump him after receiving the gift.

"Guys are less likely to offer expensive gifts to females they don't have a long-term interest in. And girls won't be impressed with cheap gifts. By offering expensive but worthless gifts, such as dinner and theatre trips, the male pays no cost if the invitation isn't accepted," said Dr Peter Sozou, of University College London (UCL).

If women are not interested they are unlikely to accept the invitation, according to the research published in the journal Proceedings of the Royal Society of London B.

The researchers said giving gifts was a feature of courtship in humans and other species to impress females. Physical attraction is an important element but offering gifts also helps.

"Our analysis shows there is evolutionary logic in men 'burning money' to impress the girl," said Professor Robert Seymour of UCL's department of mathematics.


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To: Rakkasan1; pissant

You've met Mrs. Pissant?


181 posted on 07/26/2005 6:41:53 PM PDT by Dashing Dasher (They are not paying attention - what you project - returns to you.)
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To: Dashing Dasher
I think many people incorrectly conflate cockiness and arrogance with confidence and assertiveness, and this mistake is more apparent in younger and less experienced people. The difference between them is really pretty thin, amounting to little more than the level of respectfulness the subject has for the person they are interacting with.

I would rephrase what Mr. Jeeves stated as women are not attracted to men who have mushy centers. If a man does not have a strong self-identity -- the specific nature of it is immaterial -- he is largely unmarketable in the dating world. This goes for women as well, but it is arguably less important in the overall calculus. Strength of character that can be counted on is a very important attribute for men to possess, which has only loose correlation with specific personality attributes.

Of course, there is always that other rule: a person of substance rarely has need to remind other people of this fact -- trying hard to have some is a sure sign someone doesn't have any.

(random Tuesday evening musings, not to be used with alcohol or while operating heavy machinery)

182 posted on 07/26/2005 6:42:57 PM PDT by tortoise (All these moments lost in time, like tears in the rain.)
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To: Rakkasan1
Yea, if it was your own house, you'd get A LOT of love, A LOT of affection and A LOT of tenderness!

You wouldn't have to run out before you finished!

;-p

183 posted on 07/26/2005 6:43:04 PM PDT by bannie (The government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend upon the support of Paul.)
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To: Dashing Dasher

LOL! I think I'd object to being called, Mrs. "PISSANT"!

(Note to pissant: It's not the "MRS." part that would be hard to take...)


184 posted on 07/26/2005 6:44:34 PM PDT by bannie (The government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend upon the support of Paul.)
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To: tortoise

Well-said.

Intimate relationships are waaaay complex.


185 posted on 07/26/2005 6:46:45 PM PDT by bannie (The government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend upon the support of Paul.)
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To: bannie
Love is what overcomes this. When you hear an older couple interviewed, you regularly hear the man say that he still sees her as the girl he first met. I believe that this is true.

I've been married for 10 years. I couldn't image being married to anyone else. I've seen a few guys at work that throw away their marriage, kids, etc. for someone 20 years younger than them. One guy lost out on a good promotion and his kids won't even talk to him becuase he was too busy messing around with one of the younger ladies at work. The grass isn't always greener on the other side.

On a side note, how come bald guys that are 40+ always drive a convertable sports car?

186 posted on 07/26/2005 6:48:23 PM PDT by dc27
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To: Dashing Dasher
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187 posted on 07/26/2005 6:48:40 PM PDT by Rakkasan1 (If at first you don't succeed, failure may be your thing.)
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To: tortoise
I would rephrase what Mr. Jeeves stated as women are not attracted to men who have mushy centers. If a man does not have a strong self-identity -- the specific nature of it is immaterial -- he is largely unmarketable in the dating world.

Perfectly restated. Thanks. I've got one eye on a C# program tonight, and my usual eloquence is eluding me. ;)

188 posted on 07/26/2005 6:48:45 PM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ("Democracy...will be revengeful, bloody, and cruel." -- John Adams)
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To: Rakkasan1; pissant

THAT'S MRS. PISSANT?

She's .... lovely..... ahem....


189 posted on 07/26/2005 6:50:52 PM PDT by Dashing Dasher (They are not paying attention - what you project - returns to you.)
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To: dc27
On a side note, how come bald guys that are 40+ always drive a convertable sports car?

.....because it doesn't mess up their hair?

190 posted on 07/26/2005 6:52:14 PM PDT by Dashing Dasher (They are not paying attention - what you project - returns to you.)
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To: Dashing Dasher
THAT'S MRS. PISSANT? no, but she looks like she could WOOOOOO! even Ric Flair

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191 posted on 07/26/2005 6:55:18 PM PDT by Rakkasan1 (If at first you don't succeed, failure may be your thing.)
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To: dc27

Great outlook.

When I look at older, happy couples, it makes me sad to know that I can never have what they have. Even if I were to find someone now (I'm 53), we could never have that sewn-together-ness that life-long partners can have.


192 posted on 07/26/2005 6:56:42 PM PDT by bannie (The government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend upon the support of Paul.)
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To: dc27
On a side note, how come bald guys that are 40+ always drive a convertable sports car?

Gotta be careful about doing that in California -- that is a rainbow sticker shy of neon sign that screams "I'm gay!".

The middle-aged guys with the convertible sports cars are the ones that realize that they are basically losers and are making a last ditch effort to purchase a life they'll never get (usually the consequence of a significant character flaw). A guy who actually has something going on will drive something a little more understated and classier. As a metaphor, all women generally try to appear attractive to men all the time, but only sluts and whores will hit you upside the head with their sexuality.

Flash is cheap cover-up for lack of substance.

193 posted on 07/26/2005 7:01:10 PM PDT by tortoise (All these moments lost in time, like tears in the rain.)
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To: tortoise

er...hmmmm...

Some of us PREFER bald men. It's not a negative.

I never can understand it when people talk about bald(ing) as being a bad thing.

oooo, la la.

:-D

I think I have to go look at some bald men on tv. Back later!


194 posted on 07/26/2005 7:06:11 PM PDT by bannie (The government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend upon the support of Paul.)
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To: tortoise
A guy who actually has something going on will drive something a little more understated and classier.

That's why all twenty-seven of my cars are Aston Martins. ;)

195 posted on 07/26/2005 7:08:28 PM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ("Democracy...will be revengeful, bloody, and cruel." -- John Adams)
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To: tortoise
The middle-aged guys with the convertible sports cars are the ones that realize that they are basically losers and are making a last ditch effort to purchase a life they'll never get (usually the consequence of a significant character flaw).

Nice joke in Forbes recently:

Q: What's the difference between a Porsche and a porcupine?

A: The porcupine has the pricks on the outside.

;)

196 posted on 07/26/2005 7:12:30 PM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ("Democracy...will be revengeful, bloody, and cruel." -- John Adams)
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To: tortoise
Flash is cheap cover-up for lack of substance.

You hit the nail on the head with that. Once in a while I see that combination when we go out to dinner. Other than telling the waiter what they want for dinner, they don't even talk to each other at all during dinner. I couldn't handle having to sit with someone for 1.5 hours and not even have one conversation.

197 posted on 07/26/2005 7:21:52 PM PDT by dc27
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To: The SISU kid

I *am* a woman.
Why would I wanna know how to "woo" one?....:))


198 posted on 07/26/2005 7:23:12 PM PDT by Salamander (We're pain, we're steel, a plot of knives. We're Transmaniacon MC!)
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To: bannie
"Hairspray! You have to rub it with a toothbrush (an old one is best!); but it works."

Hairspray: the multi-talented female product. LOL. Well, we girls need one at least, as the guys have their colognes that they use for both female attraction AND deoderant. :-O

199 posted on 07/26/2005 7:23:34 PM PDT by Miss Behave (Do androids dream of electric sheep?)
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To: cyborg

Pffft!
The way to *my* heart is to buy me some new software....LOL!


200 posted on 07/26/2005 7:25:26 PM PDT by Salamander (We're pain, we're steel, a plot of knives. We're Transmaniacon MC!)
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