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Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince--SPOILER ALERT!!!
me | July 17, 2005 | grellis

Posted on 07/17/2005 5:16:14 PM PDT by grellis

THIS THREAD IS INTENDED FOR READERS THAT HAVE COMPLETED THE BOOK! If you have not yet read the book, consider yourself warned: There will be spoilers on this thread.

For my fellow FReepers who have no intention of reading the book but would like to discuss the more controversial issues related to the work, I am asking you as politely as I can: DO NOT HIJACK THIS THREAD. We are all members of this forum and as such, it is not up to me to disallow anyone from participating in the discussion. That is why I am asking you--please do not hijack this thread. If you would like to discuss the more controversial aspects of the book, maybe you could start your own thread and ping us over there. If we are interested, we'll come.


TOPICS: Books/Literature
KEYWORDS: diary; halfbloodprince; harrypotter; horcrux; hufflepuffscup; locket; nagila; predictions; professorsnape; ravenclaw; ring; spoilersgalore
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To: AmishDude

Yes, the broomsticks were explained--it was the reference that Scrimgeour made to the "someone" that really stuck with me. WVMM is right, though--HP did stun one of the Death Eaters when he was released from the body-bind--the DE landed on the stairs, and HP jumped over him. I think that is the DE that Scrimgeour is referring to (pardon my syntax!), and any Order member present could have questioned him afterward. I still think that's odd, though. There is no mention at all of any of the DEs being left behind, with the exception of the one who was accidentally killed. Wouldn't someone have mentioned it in passing, at least, later on, when they were all gathered at Bill's bedside? I think that it would be pretty big news, having one of the DEs. No mention is made.


441 posted on 07/20/2005 9:25:26 AM PDT by grellis (Ravenclaw, class of '87)
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To: kellynch
No, you can't go wrong with Bach, that concerto in particular. It has long been my favorite piece of music. When it was used in the film, I probably went through a whole box of kleenex. It's too bad that Rickman is pigeonholed as a villain. For an actor who is unconventional-looking to pull off the role of a romantic lead so effortlessly speaks volumes about his talent.

The English Patient excrable??! You're being waaay too kind. That movie was so bad, one has to invent words to truly encompass its broad range of pure putrescence. I'll give it some thought. Minghella is a hit-or-miss director. When he's on, he's great. When he's bad, it is as if he is seeking new depths to how horrible a film can be.

Speaking of directors, I have always thought (and will always think) that Terry Gilliam would have done a masterful job with the HP series. He's not British, but having trouped as a Python for so long he really captures some very British sensibilities. I think the movies, to date, have been crafted to appeal to American audiences which is jarring when compared to the way the books are written. Also, Gilliam has a flair for the fantastic, as opposed to the cartoonish. Its like comparing The Adventures of Baron Munchhausen to The Goonies--visually, they're not in the same ballpark.

442 posted on 07/20/2005 9:40:43 AM PDT by grellis (Ravenclaw, class of '87)
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To: grellis

Thanks for saving me from spending my money on a bad movie!


443 posted on 07/20/2005 9:48:07 AM PDT by Pippin ( NO MORE CHO!)
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To: grellis

You know I forgot something from POA, p. 427 about Peter Pettigrew:

"Pettigrew owes his life to you. You have sent Lord Voldemort a deputy who is in your debt... When one wizard saves another wizard's life, it creates a certain bond between them...and I'm much mistaken if Voldemort wants a servant in the debt of Harry Potter."

Oy, that has to come back in the final book, I doubt Wormtail told Voldemort about that or he would be dead. Let's not forget either that Harry's and Voldemort's wands will not do battle properly against each other, who knows what could happen besides the reverse spell effect.


444 posted on 07/20/2005 9:50:59 AM PDT by WV Mountain Mama ("Draco Dormiens Nunquam Titillandus" never has better advice been given.)
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To: SandyInSeattle

My money has it that resolution to the whole story will come from or at least touch upon Harry's relationship with Ginny.

Hand waving arguments to back this up:

-Ginny is allegedly the first female Weasly child to be born in generations.

-She's supposed to be quite powerful. Who knows, maybe Snape is a vampire and Ginny's bat-bogey hex will figure in.

-She and Harry share a very special bond that was created when Harry saved her life in COS.

-All the focus on the love thing.

JKR seems to subscribe to the old noir novel notion that a gun never gets put on the table without being used. Ginny's unique status, potential and relationship to Harry seems like a fairly high caliber gun on the table.

We'll see how far off base I end up being.


445 posted on 07/20/2005 10:02:42 AM PDT by El Sordo
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To: El Sordo
Who knows, maybe Snape is a vampire and Ginny's bat-bogey hex will figure in.

LOL! He sure looks like one, doesn't he? And Rowling keeps bring up the bat-bogey hex... there must be a reason. I'm finding, especially in this book, that the simplest off-hand comment is deliberate.

446 posted on 07/20/2005 10:14:01 AM PDT by Not A Snowbird (Official RKBA Landscaper and Arborist, Duchess of Green Leafy Things)
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To: El Sordo; retrokitten
Hand waving arguments to back this up:

-Ginny is allegedly the first female Weasly child to be born in generations.

-She's supposed to be quite powerful. Who knows, maybe Snape is a vampire and Ginny's bat-bogey hex will figure in.

-She and Harry share a very special bond that was created when Harry saved her life in COS.

I agree. A reoccurring theme is that is always comes down to love. And I really like the power couple combo of Harry and Ginny

447 posted on 07/20/2005 10:15:40 AM PDT by SuzanneWeeks (>^..^<)
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To: Pippin

Bumping the thread to the top of my comments page


448 posted on 07/20/2005 10:52:10 AM PDT by Pippin ( NO MORE CHO!)
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To: Pippin
Worse than Ishtar bad.
449 posted on 07/20/2005 10:56:47 AM PDT by grellis (Ravenclaw, class of '87)
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To: grellis

UHG!


450 posted on 07/20/2005 10:58:06 AM PDT by Pippin ( NO MORE CHO!)
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To: WV Mountain Mama; All
I wasn't too surprised that Pettigrew has been so scarce, for that very reason. He's kind of out of everyone's minds. I have no doubt that he will be in book 7, and I think he will be pivotal. He figured too prominently in PoA--and GoF, for that matter--to be left dangling.

Now, supposing that Hogwarts does not reopen in the next book--just supposing--how creepy will it be if HP has to return there for some reason? What are some of the other locations the gang is likely to visit in book 7? HP mentioned Godric's cave (or hollow?), isn't that where Sirius hid out near Hogsmeade? Is it just me or does HP's plan to visit his parent's grave a really bad idea? Seems about as safe as wearing stilettos in a slasher flick. No good can come from it, not with VM and the DEs on the loose.

451 posted on 07/20/2005 11:05:35 AM PDT by grellis (Ravenclaw, class of '87)
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To: grellis
The English Patient excrable??! You're being waaay too kind. That movie was so bad, one has to invent words to truly encompass its broad range of pure putrescence. I'll give it some thought. Minghella is a hit-or-miss director. When he's on, he's great. When he's bad, it is as if he is seeking new depths to how horrible a film can be.

Well, I was trying to be polite. *grin*

To be completely truthful, I found TEP to be one of worst pieces of pretentious filmmaking I have ever seen. I spent months afterwards being referred to as "Elaine," after the Seinfeld character who has enough guts to tell the world how much she hated this film.

The only thing that comes close in "badness" is Titanic.

Bleagh.

452 posted on 07/20/2005 11:08:27 AM PDT by kellynch (Whining about income inequality is a cop-out. -- Walter E. Williams)
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To: Huntress
If, in Book 7, it comes down to a choice between her loyalty to Voldemort or the life of her son, Narcissa will choose Draco. Similarly, if Draco is set up to choose between his family and Voldemort, he'll choose his folks.

Exactly the kind of sacrifice that prevented VM from killing HP in the first place. Very interesting, indeed. I wonder if someone is going to bust Lucius out of Azkaban and if so, how will he react to his son's inability to follow VM's orders? I can't see him choosing his family over VM. Lucius is pure slime.

453 posted on 07/20/2005 11:14:10 AM PDT by grellis (Ravenclaw, class of '87)
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To: grellis

Mentioning James and Lily's graves had me thinking, but didn't the house they were in get destroyed and I thought I read were there weren't nothing left of J and L to bury.


454 posted on 07/20/2005 11:15:43 AM PDT by Pippin ( NO MORE CHO!)
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To: grellis

Godric's Hollow is the town where Lily and James Potter lived. That's why he's going back.

I'm willing to bet the final showdown takes place at Hogwarts...


455 posted on 07/20/2005 11:15:55 AM PDT by JenB (I solemnly swear I am up to no good.)
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To: kellynch

Anther movie to avoid!


456 posted on 07/20/2005 11:17:02 AM PDT by Pippin ( NO MORE CHO!)
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To: FreedomSurge
Snape could easily have known nothing but been drawing information out of Mrs. Malfoy.

That's exactly what I was thinking when I read that chapter. I think that Snape kept DD informed on everything. When Snape and Malfoy left that party, Snape was desperate to get Malfoy to include him (or at least make him aware of) his plans. I don't think it's because he feared Malfoy as a rival--I think he'd sworn to DD, just as he'd sworn to Narcissa, that he would protect Malfoy as well as HP at all costs, up to and including killing DD himself.

457 posted on 07/20/2005 11:20:29 AM PDT by grellis (Ravenclaw, class of '87)
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To: JenB

But wasn't the house they were living in destroyed?


458 posted on 07/20/2005 11:20:39 AM PDT by Pippin ( NO MORE CHO!)
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To: Pippin

Yup, it was. I don't think that matters.... he just wants to see the place... and their graves.

Harry's in danger anywhere he goes. Going to Godric's Hollow shouldn't be much more risky.


459 posted on 07/20/2005 11:21:41 AM PDT by JenB (I solemnly swear I am up to no good.)
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To: JenB

True


460 posted on 07/20/2005 11:22:20 AM PDT by Pippin ( NO MORE CHO!)
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