Posted on 07/17/2005 5:16:14 PM PDT by grellis
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Excellent choice. He'd probably be even better than Connery in that part.
Can anyone say Star Trek III?
Remember...
That is my impression. He may have also killed Dumbledore, but a murder was committed, and that was the requirement for making the soul splitting thingy.
Can anyone say Star Trek III?
He is dead, folks.
The whole horcrux creation reminds me so much of Sauron's Ring. As long as the Ring was intact, his soul was alive and he could return--not easily, just as Voldemort's return was difficult.
I don't know how an Unbreakable Vow works, but I think Snape had to step in, in part because of the oath he'd made with Narcissa.
The singing Phoenix had me thinking that he was shedding healing tears...Dumbledore suffered an injury from destroying the ring, he could have suffered an injury while destroying the locket. I don't believe for a minute that DD was fooled by some fake locket.
Also if Dumbledore has gone into hiding then it makes sense that his Phoenix would also leave and go with him. DD being presumed dead makes it easy for Snape and Malfoy to be accepted into Voldermore circle. DD very own sleeper cell if you will.
Arborus majica is handy if you find yourself in a forest (or anywhere else with wand-quality wood). It allows you to turn ordinary wood into a wand, although you will be limited to some rudimentary spells since the wand would lack a core.
My kid came up with that one!
About Snape and Lily--I admit it, I read at some fanfic sites, and there is a sorta neato thing wherein if you rearrange the letters of Severus Snape's name you get "Perseus Evans" (Evans being Lily's last name before she got married.) LOTS and LOTS of theories about how the two of them might be related, and that is why she is nice to him in the memories, though he is such a POS.
How long until the next book? Two, three years??!
I think you are right, but if so, it was planned.
About the last remaining relic being the sword--you're right! I read someone today venturing that when Tom Riddle controlled Ginny in CoS, and said he "poured his soul" into her, he made her a horcrux. I have always thought that the Weasly's must be some distant relative of Gryffindor becuase of the red hair (everyone comments on it), their very strong bravery and loyalty, and in the PoA movie (which Rowling consulted on), Ron takes the candy and makes a lion roar (remember, Neville makes the elephant noise, and Harry sounds like a train). So, if this was true, Ginny would be a remnany of the Gryffindor bloodline, wouldn't she? And how awful for Harry to have to kill her, or at least consider the option!
I really am convinced it was planned out just as it happened, with some surprises--I don't think DD had any idea how Draco got the Death Eaters into Hogwarts, he seemed pretty surprised about that. I'd love to spend a few hours in the Room of Requirement. Just walk in and find a copy of book 7 sitting next to a comfy chair...
I for one am not going to rest easy until book seven is at the publishers. The one great genius of Rowling's is always being pitch perfect with the characters. She gets caught off guard occasionally in minute details of the mystery plotting, but the characters always do what, in retrospect, they had to do.
I'm sure that the publishers have a plot outline in a safe somewhere, but no one but Rowling could write it the way it needs to be written. Considering how many times her style has been trashed, I am astounded at how clean the final chapters of this book are. Some of the endings were so confusing I had to read them over just to figure out what happened. This one is a marvel.
I am just now realizing that I didn't ping you--sorry! Pretty good discussion, lots of predictions.
Clever lad!
I learned most of what little Latin I know from dinosaur names. He's got a good start!
He's a pip, frightening smart, not yet eight years old. His interest in Latin started with dinosaurs! If grammar school "educators" ever realized just how quickly kids pick up on things like that, Latin wouldn't be such a near-dead language.
And now, I'm off to bed! See you later folks.
I am starting to wonder about the potion (poison) DD drank in the cave. He said "it wasn't a health drink" and it obviously weakened him badly.
What if DD realized that there was no antidote for the potion and, realizing he was going to die anyhow, mangaged to arrange things so that his death would have the greatest benefit for the good side?
Yup. That was pretty obvious from the way she reacted after the dementor attack in OOTP. No way she could have known about Azkaban or dementors if she wasn't.
It would also explain her intense dislike for anything magical. Understandable in it's own way.
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