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Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince--SPOILER ALERT!!!
me | July 17, 2005 | grellis

Posted on 07/17/2005 5:16:14 PM PDT by grellis

THIS THREAD IS INTENDED FOR READERS THAT HAVE COMPLETED THE BOOK! If you have not yet read the book, consider yourself warned: There will be spoilers on this thread.

For my fellow FReepers who have no intention of reading the book but would like to discuss the more controversial issues related to the work, I am asking you as politely as I can: DO NOT HIJACK THIS THREAD. We are all members of this forum and as such, it is not up to me to disallow anyone from participating in the discussion. That is why I am asking you--please do not hijack this thread. If you would like to discuss the more controversial aspects of the book, maybe you could start your own thread and ping us over there. If we are interested, we'll come.


TOPICS: Books/Literature
KEYWORDS: diary; halfbloodprince; harrypotter; horcrux; hufflepuffscup; locket; nagila; predictions; professorsnape; ravenclaw; ring; spoilersgalore
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To: retrokitten

I think I need to stop by the store on my way home and pick up some more tinfoil. My imagination is in overdrive today. :-)


241 posted on 07/18/2005 2:49:58 PM PDT by Not A Snowbird (Official RKBA Landscaper and Arborist, Duchess of Green Leafy Things)
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To: Bella_Bru
re: Many people I have talked to think DD was pleading for his life, when Harry heard, "Please, Snape". I think it's the opposite. DD was pleading with Snape to take his life.)))

Same here. I thought the saddest part of the book was not just D's death, but a kind of death for Hogwarts. Harry does say he's not returning--he's going to "drop out."

And it was distressing to see how helpless McDonigall seemed to be...she had very little to do with this sixth book.

242 posted on 07/18/2005 2:59:16 PM PDT by Mamzelle
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To: Mamzelle
Harry does say he's not returning--he's going to "drop out."

Harry feels he has bigger fish to fry this next year, but in order to be an Aurer he'll need to complete his 7th year. How do you suppose Rowling will reconcile that?

243 posted on 07/18/2005 3:02:07 PM PDT by Not A Snowbird (Official RKBA Landscaper and Arborist, Duchess of Green Leafy Things)
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To: coconutt2000

Good analyis, but don't forget that Hermoine, Ron, Luna and Ginny had taken the Felix Felicious.


244 posted on 07/18/2005 3:05:57 PM PDT by Doohickey (If you choose not to decide, you will have made a choice...I will choose freewill.)
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To: grellis

Snape also stopped Harry from using one of the Unforgivable Spells, don't forget. He also saved Harry from the Death Eaters.


245 posted on 07/18/2005 3:09:10 PM PDT by Doohickey (If you choose not to decide, you will have made a choice...I will choose freewill.)
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To: SandyInSeattle
Harry feels he has bigger fish to fry this next year, but in order to be an Aurer he'll need to complete his 7th year. How do you suppose Rowling will reconcile that?

Do you suppose that by doing all he needs to do to get the remaining horcrux's and killing Voldemort, he would "qualify" to be an auror?

Besides, if it's the last book, JKR could just leave us hanging on that! LOL!

246 posted on 07/18/2005 3:13:09 PM PDT by Dianna
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To: retrokitten

It was a good theory, so I checked it out!


247 posted on 07/18/2005 3:13:59 PM PDT by tiredoflaundry (Tampa Bay, Fl. The lightning capital of the world!)
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To: Dianna
Do you suppose that by doing all he needs to do to get the remaining horcrux's and killing Voldemort, he would "qualify" to be an auror?

Gosh, I would hope so! :-)

248 posted on 07/18/2005 3:15:07 PM PDT by Not A Snowbird (Official RKBA Landscaper and Arborist, Duchess of Green Leafy Things)
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To: grellis

Dumbledore wanted Snape on the astronomy tower for a reason that had nothing to do with his being ill (as I was thinking at the time).


249 posted on 07/18/2005 3:16:08 PM PDT by Doohickey (If you choose not to decide, you will have made a choice...I will choose freewill.)
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To: Mamzelle
Same here. I thought the saddest part of the book was not just D's death, but a kind of death for Hogwarts. Harry does say he's not returning--he's going to "drop out."

I suspect that Harry will have a very active summer and will return to Hogwarts to take the much hinted at Head Boy position, likely with a huge benefit to his house in the form of a large award of points. It would be unlike her to leave the story without returning Hogwarts to 'normal', or at least as normal as it can be.
250 posted on 07/18/2005 3:17:04 PM PDT by kingu
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To: SandyInSeattle

I think the members of the OOTP and especially the Weasleys will talk him into returning. Will he stay there all year? I don't know.


251 posted on 07/18/2005 3:17:40 PM PDT by Gardener
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To: Gardener
I think he will go back. Lupin always reminds Harry of his parents sacrifice. If he goes to Godric's Hollow, I think he will find info that his parent's wanted him to finish & graduate from Hogwart's.
252 posted on 07/18/2005 3:23:27 PM PDT by tiredoflaundry (Tampa Bay, Fl. The lightning capital of the world!)
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To: tiredoflaundry

Ah nuts. I did think that there would be more about her death somewhere in the book, and she was the only AB I could think of yesterday. Today, when the topic of Regulus came up, it seemed so obvious.

I have a feeling that JKR is sitting in her castle, reading this and many other threads and laughing hysterically.


253 posted on 07/18/2005 3:27:58 PM PDT by WV Mountain Mama (Experience is something you don't get until just after you need it.)
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To: WV Mountain Mama
I have a feeling that JKR is sitting in her castle, reading this and many other threads and laughing hysterically.

I've been thinking the same thing. If she is reading this, I hope she's in her PJ's.

254 posted on 07/18/2005 3:36:16 PM PDT by Not A Snowbird (Official RKBA Landscaper and Arborist, Duchess of Green Leafy Things)
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To: Dianna

She is going to give us a chapter of their post Hogwarts lives. Yippee

JK Rowling: "That is very good that, is assuming that anyone survives, I may kill the whole lot ­ not really, don't write me letters. There is already a chapter written in which you find out about the survivors post Hogwarts fates, so, I will have to re­write it when I get there, because that was written years ago and it wasn't really written on the assumption that I would use it as it is written in the hooks, it is really an act of faith, it was me saying to myself "I will get here and this information is the end point and that is where I'm trying to get to. So yes, there will be."


255 posted on 07/18/2005 3:37:47 PM PDT by WV Mountain Mama (Experience is something you don't get until just after you need it.)
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To: Quinotto

Sorry, but the hand turned black from the ring.

p. 503
Yes indeed," said Dumbledore, and he raised his blackened, burned-looking hand. "The ring, Harry. Marvolo's ring. And a terrible curse there was upon it too. Had it not been--forgive me the lack of seemly modesty--for my own prodigious skill, and for Professor Snape's timely action when I returned to Hogwarts, desperately injured, I might not have lived to tell the tale. However, a withered hand does not seem an unreasonable exchange for a seventh of Voldemort's soul. The ring is no longer a Horcrux."


256 posted on 07/18/2005 4:20:09 PM PDT by WV Mountain Mama (Experience is something you don't get until just after you need it.)
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To: r9etb

It seemed like a shocked sort of response to me. Dumbledore, of course, never feared death; he however was shocked that a man he forgave and trusted (despite knowing what Snape did) would turn on him. Plus, Snape was described as having a pretty vindictive, sneering look on his face before he killed Dumbledore.

While I wasn't that shocked with Dumbledore's death, I was shocked that Snape killed him. Rowlings spent five books convincing us that Snape was a creep, but was on the right side. However, it turns out that Snape really was a bad guy all along.


257 posted on 07/18/2005 4:49:21 PM PDT by Accygirl
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To: grellis

I just finished this book... First I don't believe that he is really dead. I think Snape killed the part of Voldermorts soul that was in the locket. I think the locket that was left was a decoy.

Malfoy was suppose to kill Dumbledore, not Snape.. if Snape was truely evil he would have followed the orders of Voldermort...I think he knew what to do by reading the thoughts of Dumbledore as he did with Harry. I believe we will see Dumbledore, Snape and Malfoy in the final battle against Voldermort.

Now I'm going to read this thread and see if anyone else thinks this way.


258 posted on 07/18/2005 4:51:50 PM PDT by SouthernFreebird
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To: Huntress


I was disappointed with the Dumbledore in the last movie also, I thought Anthony Hopkins with his piercing blue eyes and calm voice would have made a wonderful Dumbledore.


259 posted on 07/18/2005 5:03:54 PM PDT by SouthernFreebird
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To: WV Mountain Mama

You are probably right but somehow I remember something about the Avakadrava curse hitting him...either way DD was getting weaker...


260 posted on 07/18/2005 5:12:04 PM PDT by Quinotto (On matters of style swim with the current,on matters of principle stand like a rock-Thomas Jefferson)
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