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The Hobbit Hole XXIII - Let them go! Let them go!

Posted on 07/12/2005 8:11:36 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog

Welcome to The Hobbit Hole!

Let them go! Let them go!

New verse:

Upon the hearth the fire is red,
Beneath the roof there is a bed;
But not yet weary are our feet,
Still round the corner we may meet
A sudden tree or standing stone
That none have seen but we alone.
Tree and flower and leaf and grass,
Let them pass! Let them pass!
Hill and water under sky,
Pass them by! Pass them by!

Still round the corner there may wait
A new road or a secret gate,
And though we pass them by today,
Tomorrow we may come this way
And take the hidden paths that run
Towards the Moon or to the Sun.
Apple, thorn, and nut and sloe,
Let them go! Let them go!
Sand and stone and pool and dell,
Fare you well! Fare you well!

Home is behind, the world ahead,
And there are many paths to tread
Through shadows to the edge of night,
Until the stars are all alight.
Then world behind and home ahead,
We’ll wander back to home and bed.
Mist and twilight, cloud and shade,
Away shall fade! Away shall fade!
Fire and lamp, and meat and bread,
And then to bed! And then to bed!

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To: RMDupree
In order to make sure that Rebecca is placed in the Spanish class for non-Spanish speakers - I have to fill out a form.

Oh, fer the luvva...

There's an interesting question buried in there. The mere concept of "Spanish for Spanish speakers" means that they are teaching Spanish as a "first" language instead of a second language.

Think about that...

Why?

Shouldn't everybody be guided toward English as an eventual FIRST language, ESPECIALLY for elementary school kids? Why would it *ever* make sense to saddle a kid with second-rate english skills?

Answer: To create more dependency and more democrat voters.

Arrrgh. :-)

5,141 posted on 08/08/2005 6:08:01 PM PDT by Ramius (Buy blades for war fighters: http://freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net)
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To: JenB

It's because of the demographics of the school.

When we first moved to this neighborhood, the ration was 50% Gringo, 40% Hispanic, 10% Other.

Today, there was not ONE Gringo/Black/Asian in the whole place. And I'm not kidding. The only language I heard the parents speaking was Spanish.

I'm all for my kids learning a 2nd language, but it shouldn't be mandatory!


5,142 posted on 08/08/2005 6:11:47 PM PDT by RMDupree (HHD: Join the Hobbit Hole Troop Support - http://freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net/)
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To: Ramius
Answer: To create more dependency and more democrat voters.

Exactly.

Kids that have Spanish as their first language should be in ESOL programs so that they can be fluent in English as quickly as possible.

It's now the other way around where the English kids are in mandatory SSOL (Spanish Second Language) classes.

Doesn't make a lick of sense, does it?

Becky and Alyson are growing up listening to both languages. They both prefer English, as I do - but they understand a lot of Spanish, even though they aren't confident in speaking the language.

5,143 posted on 08/08/2005 6:15:36 PM PDT by RMDupree (HHD: Join the Hobbit Hole Troop Support - http://freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net/)
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To: RMDupree

Precisely!

And, if she managed a C in that class, I'm really impressed. I had trouble in "Spanish for CS Majors", only got an A in that because the prof graded on our reading abilities, not our speaking abilities.


5,144 posted on 08/08/2005 6:16:16 PM PDT by JenB (Go and catch a falling star...)
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To: Ramius; JenB; Overtaxed
And this... * As part of home learning, your child is required to read or 30 minutes at home everyday and log it. Sign the reading log daily! I detest!!

30 minutes dedicated to reading. As a forced requirement. Way to instill a love of reading there, huh? We all know that kids just love doing things they are forced to do. *rolls eyes*

And that is in addition to the regular "home learning" (ie, homework) that the teacher sends home. So, the kids spend an entire hour with homework before they can eat, bathe, watch TV, spend time with family, etc.

It's not Scottish.

5,145 posted on 08/08/2005 6:19:19 PM PDT by RMDupree (HHD: Join the Hobbit Hole Troop Support - http://freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net/)
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To: JenB

I'm sure the only reason she didn't fail the class is because of the Spanish she heard/learned within the family.


5,146 posted on 08/08/2005 6:20:44 PM PDT by RMDupree (HHD: Join the Hobbit Hole Troop Support - http://freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net/)
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To: RMDupree

Good grief.

The only thing I can suggest is that you two find books you both enjoy and read together. Make it a family activity. What sorts of books does she like? If there's a book you know she'd like but that's really too hard to read herself, why not have one of those evenings be "read to her" nights? Believe me, having books read to you is just as important as practicing reading yourself.


5,147 posted on 08/08/2005 6:27:35 PM PDT by JenB (Go and catch a falling star...)
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To: JenB

That's what I did last year and the year before.

We read through Grimm's Fairy Tales together.

I'll probably start Harry Potter with her this year and mark one chapter per night.


5,148 posted on 08/08/2005 6:29:55 PM PDT by RMDupree (HHD: Join the Hobbit Hole Troop Support - http://freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net/)
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To: RMDupree

Hehehe....have her do her reading assignment during class.


5,149 posted on 08/08/2005 6:40:13 PM PDT by Overtaxed
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To: RMDupree

Well, if she likes nice little slightly twisted fantasy stories, you could always read her "The Hobbit".


5,150 posted on 08/08/2005 6:41:18 PM PDT by JenB (Go and catch a falling star...)
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To: RMDupree

Yah... that makes it look almost like reading is a "punishment" of sorts.

That's no way to get kids to like to read. It needs to be something exciting for them, and they'll crave it anyway.


5,151 posted on 08/08/2005 6:41:41 PM PDT by Ramius (Buy blades for war fighters: http://freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net)
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To: Overtaxed

Yah...Spanish class.


5,152 posted on 08/08/2005 6:43:11 PM PDT by RosieCotton ("Fallacies do not cease to be fallacies because they become fashions." - G. K. Chesterton)
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To: JenB

She's about to turn 8, so The Hobbit may be just right.

I'm thinking it may bore her in some parts though, so I'd rather start her off on something a little funnier like Potter.


5,153 posted on 08/08/2005 6:43:32 PM PDT by RMDupree (HHD: Join the Hobbit Hole Troop Support - http://freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net/)
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To: Overtaxed

*grin*


5,154 posted on 08/08/2005 6:44:02 PM PDT by RMDupree (HHD: Join the Hobbit Hole Troop Support - http://freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net/)
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To: JenB

Heh. I got turned on to "The Hobbit" in elementary school, because it was something one of my teachers *read to the class* in little pieces every day.

I wonder if he didn't read it in too-small of pieces every day to get us hooked on the story and get us to go out and read it on our own.

Werked fer me. :-)


5,155 posted on 08/08/2005 6:44:44 PM PDT by Ramius (Buy blades for war fighters: http://freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net)
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To: RMDupree

I was eight when I got "The Hobbit" read to me. It was a car trip back from Florida, Dad needed Mom to read something so he picked that up since it didn't have anything objectionable that us kiddies shouldn't hear.

I blame that for turning me onto fantasy and SF.


5,156 posted on 08/08/2005 6:46:26 PM PDT by JenB (Go and catch a falling star...)
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To: Ramius

I've learned that reverse psychology works wonderfully on kids. Thus, if she sees me reading and I tell her that she wouldn't be the least bit interested in doing it, she'll beg me to read. Anything.

When I tell Becky that something bothers me, she'll do it.

That's how I got her to start brushing her teeth automatically every morning. I told her that the sound of her brushing her teeth drove me nuts.

Now she does it, but doesn't quite remember what motivated her to start. :-D


5,157 posted on 08/08/2005 6:47:47 PM PDT by RMDupree (HHD: Join the Hobbit Hole Troop Support - http://freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net/)
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To: RMDupree

Also in the silly and slightly twisted category...she'd probably like Roald Dahl's books - Charlie and the Chocolate Factory, and Charlie and the Great Glass Elevator, and The Witches and The BFG and Matilda...


5,158 posted on 08/08/2005 6:48:01 PM PDT by RosieCotton ("Fallacies do not cease to be fallacies because they become fashions." - G. K. Chesterton)
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To: JenB; RosieCotton

Maybe you two are on to something there.

She does adore James & The Giant Peach and enjoys LOTR. Hmmmm....


5,159 posted on 08/08/2005 6:50:05 PM PDT by RMDupree (HHD: Join the Hobbit Hole Troop Support - http://freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net/)
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To: RMDupree

Then I recommend telling her that you wanna take her in for a tattoo... soon.

:-)


5,160 posted on 08/08/2005 6:51:26 PM PDT by Ramius (Buy blades for war fighters: http://freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net)
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