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A nice, simple subject to discuss on a Sunday Afternoon. Shouldn't get anyone too riled up. ;)
1 posted on 07/10/2005 6:46:42 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
I had to pull away from a friend a few years ago due to I was headed one way and she was not....it was nothing personal but we just didn't have anything in common to talk about. I have found that friends in my teens and early 20's are still my best....we have all grown up and stay in contact.

"that women are rivals for the attention, love, and approval of men and that they therefore can't really be friends (with other women),"
I don't agree with this...maybe young girls do this but if grown women have to compete with a friend then maybe they should find a new set!!
2 posted on 07/10/2005 7:08:01 AM PDT by PaulaB (Light Travels Faster Than Sound, Which Is Why Some People Appear Bright Until You Hear Them Speak)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

funny!

many women i've known hate each other's guts, contrary to feminist dogma.


3 posted on 07/10/2005 7:11:48 AM PDT by ken21 (it takes a village to brainwash your child + to steal your property! /s)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

"friendships are rooted in a fundamentally adversarial attitude toward men."

This isn't friendship, it's a therapy session.


4 posted on 07/10/2005 7:40:07 AM PDT by jwh_Denver (Socialism, Communism, Fascism, Liberalism; self anger turned outward.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
many of these friendships are rooted in a fundamentally adversarial attitude toward men

..and toward other women.

This may well explain why I have had better friendships with men than I EVER had with women. EVER. I was talking to another woman today, and she was saying the same thing, she has only ever had one female friend, the rest have been men. From childhood I have NEVER understood all of the drama involved with females. I don't understand the game-playing. The superficiality. You can't be different or disagree without things getting personal.

Men are simpler. Not necessarily simplistic, just simpler. I can have a rousing debate with a male friend and later, yes, talk about hopes, dreams, goals, even emotions.

My problem as a 23 year old woman is that most of my friendships with men inevitably turn romantic some way or another. And if we're not going to start a romantic relationship and get married, then our friendship suffers. Most men who approach me probably do so because they're interested in a romantic relationship, and then it ends up becoming a friendship when they realize how cool I am, but that is never satisfactory for very long.

I've got to find a way to develop friendships with women in my real, offline life. But I just don't get them.

6 posted on 07/10/2005 7:53:38 PM PDT by DameAutour
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

I still found it funny how women all go to the bathroom together. What goes on there that you need to do that?


10 posted on 07/11/2005 1:12:07 AM PDT by Clemenza (Where is the Genius of Love?)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Most women don't make for friends with others, and most women really harm other females...

I have to admit, some of the most viscious and irrational harms caused to me in my life has been done intentionally by other women.

I think it has most to do with females competing for resources. Whether they are aware of it or not. I do know, however, that females are aware of their hate and hateful actions where other females are concerned....they just can never explain it beyond some start flash point issue.

Loss of a genuinely, non harmful friendship with another woman is why it's so profoundly painful. Because it's so rare.


11 posted on 07/11/2005 3:53:41 AM PDT by BIRDS
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

I've rarely had a good female friend.


12 posted on 07/11/2005 3:59:15 AM PDT by cyborg (http://mentalmumblings.blogspot.com/)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

I also think it's the leading compulsion for eating disorders and other psychological problems of self...mutilations and/or overt cosmetic improvements, obsessions of the physical, by women.

It's as if many females are literally driven insane by the needs to compete and it's never stated or clearly defined and often discouraged from even being discussed without a lot of strife affiliated, thus, women internalize the threats and harassment that is inherent in female competition.

Men get together and at least bond and relax and enjoy mutually supportive group efforts...women rarely do that. Even sewing circles, things of that nature, are traditionally rife with women all competing with one another, as to who has the "best" gossip, etc...

Which is why women gossip, also. It's a form of destroying other females (competitors) and trying to get some other competitors into a sorta' truce...let's all gossip about someone we can all agree to destroy (which is what gossip is all about, destroying someone else)...in my experience, anyone who behaves like that is proving that they're capable of also destroying anyone else, thus aren't trustworthy (and thus, I don't participate, and disassociate).

Men gossip, too, I realize, but the behavior is the basis relied upon by many women about which to have anything "in common" with other females they wouldn't be spending time with, otherwise.

Might have something to do with the fact that females as children are not raised to participate as much in group activities as are males...and when they do, they are demeaned by other females and then the psychological problems manifest at teen years: rebelliousness and/or self harms, etc.


13 posted on 07/11/2005 4:00:36 AM PDT by BIRDS
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To: Diana in Wisconsin; pissant; Allegra; Dashing Dasher; MikeinIraq
"Men seem to have a hard time understanding women, and it really is nice to have someone understand you," says Jenny Bryers, a UW- Madison graduate student.

Hmm, let's see. Understand women, or build bridge to Hawaii? Guess I better decide how many lanes that will be.

16 posted on 07/11/2005 6:31:09 AM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: cyborg; Xenalyte; raivyn; MamaTexan; Jersey Republican Biker Chick; njwoman; arasina; ...

Pinging the Gang...

Have your say....


24 posted on 07/11/2005 9:24:49 AM PDT by Dashing Dasher (A tagline of silences in memory of two great aviators.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Lost an Old Friend Today. Politics and the Personal



http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1287896/posts


I know this up close and personal.


38 posted on 07/11/2005 10:55:24 AM PDT by mlmr (CHICKIE-POO!)
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To: codyjacksmom

Hi babe, Interesting article!


41 posted on 07/11/2005 12:09:08 PM PDT by laceybrookesdad (A half truth is a whole lie!)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

I have two friends that I've been close to for over 10 years.... They are as close as my sister and I. but overall, I would rather work with men over women, only bewcause "we" can be catty!


42 posted on 07/11/2005 12:14:52 PM PDT by Die_Hard Conservative Lady (Close the borders.....)
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To: patton


Read this....


49 posted on 07/11/2005 3:47:02 PM PDT by Dashing Dasher (A tagline of silence in memory of two great aviators.)
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