Posted on 06/15/2005 10:05:32 AM PDT by roses of sharon
Slandering our soldiers recieved 100 posts.
Schiavo recieved over 600.
I guess Durbin, a United States Senator, will again get away with slander and aiding and abetting our enemies.
"Exposing the massive Scientologist-led conspiracy to kill Terri Schiavo and cover it up (said conspiracy requiring the active involvement of the entire State of Florida) is FAR more important than a United States Senator committing treason."
Actually, I see the two merge. That same senator has joined a berzerker team that filibustered tooth-and-nail to preserve the baby-killing court system. As usual: think a little bit about a rat's accusations, and it often reflects his own sins.
Or are you going to tell us there have been millions deliberately killed?
If that's what you call 'accurate historic reference,' I shudder to think what you would consider inaccurate.
There was nothing there but a lump of flesh activated by some autonomous functions. Her brain was gone. Her spirit gone. There was nothing to kill just a shell which should have been allowed to go to the grave a decade ago but for fanatic parents and political opportunists.
She couldn't swallow, see, feel, think. No existence could be more horrible.
There is no "social duty" to throw millions at hopeless cases. Every dollar wasted in that way is a dollar which cannot be used to ACTUALLY preserve life. Dozens of children could have been saved from death with the money wasted on TS.
This "society of cads" spends VAST sums on preserving life. FAR more than any society in the history of mankind.
In any other time TS would have been allowed to go to the Lord a decade ago. Before the sentimentalists and fanatics had any influence no one would have been taken seriously who proposed throwing scarc
e resources down such bottomless pits.
Should I ever get into a state like TS I would not want ANY heroic efforts to maintain that semblence of life. Nor would I want to consume any estate that could be left to my boys or to soak up the taxpayers' resources pursuing pretenses.
Watching this disaster unfold I tried to ignore it for months. Then had to jump in for my fair share of abuse from the fanatics.
Everyone who ignored the truth and fought to keep Terri from going to the Lord failed her. What was done to her by her parents is an abomination.
ping to post #55, profound juxtaposition of facts.
I respectfully request that you quit your whining.
You see, there are many people at this forum who think Terri Schiavo was murdered, and there are many people here who believe her beliefs were followed. Both sides have been very vocal. Controversy often produces discussion, and so the threads become quite long.
Meanwhile, there is no controversy at all at FR about Dick Durbin. Every Freeper knows he is a pustulous scumbag. Therefore, a thread detailing what a pustulous scumbag he is will not produce controversy, and therefore produce less discussion. One might as well complain because we didn't acknowledge that the sky is blue with a 3,000 post megathread.
So, if you want to do something about Durbin, write him a letter instead of pretending that Freepers lack commitment to the troops. A more ludicrous thesis could not be advanced.
Let me ask you something...Michael Schiavo has been acting so weird he makes Joe Friday look like Hunter S. Thompson. Read the little blurb below and then give me an explanation. I have not had a single Freeper explain this behavior to me yet, and I'm hoping you can.
Here's the timeline Michael Schiavo expects us to believe. This is based solely on testimony given by Michael, under oath, in courts of law. Not one bit of it comes from any allegations by any Schindler or Schindler ally, but only from his own lips while under oath.Late 80's: Terri says, "Pull the plug."
1990: Terri collapses.
1992: Michael promises to care for her "for the rest of [his] life," after his lawyer has told the jury Terri may live for another 50 years. Michael also notes that he loves her so much he will care for her at home, and that he will become a nurse so he can give her the best care possible. At this point, Terri was already receiving her food and liquids through a tube.
1993: Michael stops rehab, euthanizes her cats, melts down her wedding ring and tries to deny her antibiotics for a urinary tract infection. He only allows treatment to go forward when the nursing home Terri is in tells him they are required by law to treat her infection.
1997: Michael suddenly remembers that whole "pull the plug" thing, seven years after she was first brain damaged and on a feeding tube, and 5 years after he promised to care for her in that state for a half-century if necessary.
Can you explain this? And does it really amaze you that millions of people have looked at this behavior and found it less believable than the idea that he might just want her out of the way?
I note that you joined this forum exactly 1 week after 9/11. Please tell me, on that day, did you think there was any chance we would go 1,373 days without another attack of any kind on U.S. soil?
And, as a conservative who opposes the liberation of Iraq, perhaps you would like to answer my Big Five Questions of Ultimate Iraqi Wisdom. There are few takers, but I’m sure you’ll answer up instead of hiding under your desk .
The Big Five Questions of Ultimate Iraqi Wisdom!
Finish one or more of the following sentences and show us the boffo supra-genius reasoning that lead you to it:
1. Iraq was not a terrorist state, and my case for this assertion is...
2. Even though Iraq harbored, trained and funded terroists, it was not a legitimate target because...
3. We should not be fighting the War on Terror at all because...
4. The current level of military casualties in a 3 year war that started with the slaughter of 3,000 noncombatants on our home soil in 90 minutes is a huge problem because...(Note: Before answering this question, you may want to review the number of casualties experienced by the U.S. in WWII, or at Shiloh or Cold Harbor, or in any particular week of the Tet Offensive.)
5. If we leave terrorist states up and running, I foresee the next major terrorist attack will be prevented by...
Let's say just for the sake of discussion that the ME report was accurate. I have my doubts about anything coming out of Pinellas at this point (County motto: Conflict of interest? What conflict of interest?), but what the hey.
Remeber that firefighter in Buffalo? The one who was in a PVS for years, and came out of it? That guy was without oxygen for ten minutes or more. Think about that...total brain death down to the last cells in the stem occurs in less than 15 minutes...this guy was down for ten...the parts of his brain that direct higher functions should be tapioca.
If that guy had been taken off the feeding tube (or had a coronary) two years ago and done an autopsy, they might have found results much like Terri's. And if they didn't, they'd probably be expecting similar results. You also might want to send your concerns to either of the two women on the Schindler side who were formerly diagnosed with PVS and are OK today, including one who remembers the terrible pain she went through after her feeding tube was removed.
So, in the end, all the autopsy means (at best) is that now we know what we didn't know before, and we can pat ourselves on the back for making the wrong choice during our period of uncertainty. It might mean we don't know anything, because the brain is very plastic. It might also be total crap, even if it's honest. For example, if she was blind, what's with all the testiony from people on both sides of the issue talking about her recognizing them?
What the autopsy won't change is the fact that a judge took a decade-old conversation remembered by a person with a conflict of interest and treated it as if it were a written document. It doesn't change the fact that the judge believed a PVS assessment from a right-to-die activist with a record of false PVS diagnoses, including a diagnosis of PVS in a guy who could identify colors and symbols, communicate with the staff, and pilot a motorized wheelchair. Most importantly, it doesn't change the damage that has been done to the law by this precedent.
Even if the autopsy says what you think, it's as if 50 solid witnesses showed up and gave a death row defendant an alibi, and the judge said, "Nope, kill him anyway, I'm not interested in this evidence," and then the defendant turns out to have done it after all. Were the witnesses mistaken? Yes. Was the judge wrong. Certainly.
And you know what? If I thought Michael Schiavo was a prince among men, I would still have been on the Schindler's side, because a remebered verbal living will is every bit as silly as a remebered verbal probate will.
Dozens of veterans from WWII are dying every day the vast majority of which are ignored while the cauterwaulng and breastbeating over the final release of TS reaches epidemic proportions.
Oh, and before you cast aspersions, you might want to consider that folks do stuff beyond FR. For example, I'm working on a project right now to get oral histories from every WWII ad Korea vet in my county, and I'm hoping that the local college and newspapers will participate, thereby getting these stories in front of thousands of people who need to hear them. If you really think the GOP is going to fall apart because a large segment has said that starving a human to death is a bad idea, you need to step away and have a beer.
See my post 72 to NATIVEDAUGHTER, I think you'll like it.
Activism? Um...ever heard of Free Republic? Protest Warrior? Young Republicans and such on any number of campuses? And unless you leave lobbying out of the activism definition, there are PACs and interest groups (like the NRA and CWA) who are just plain juggernauts in the activist arena.
If you can find a brain-damaged dog who can't swallow, please starve it to death instead of having it euthanized, then call the Humane Society and let them know what you did to the "dead" animal. The police will be with you shortly...
I cannot imagine a more ludicrous assertion.
What's Scientology supposedly have to do with Terri?
See my post 71.
Come on my friend, just because my faith tells me that all life is sacred from conception to natural death, that is no reason to demean that belief.
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